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Vander Plaats Lays Out Theocratic Vision

Bob Vander Plaats, the raging bigot who runs the Family Leader in Iowa and may run for Tom Harkin’s Senate seat, spoke recently at his organizations “Life, Marriage & Family” event and laid out a bluntly theocratic vision of governance. Every policy, in his view, must conform with God’s will (his interpretation of it, of course).

I happen to believe the reason you will see a leader who is in over his head, why you will see a Congress with a nine percent approval rating, and why you see rogue justices taking authority that isn’t theirs to take, is that they have forgotten, many of them have forgotten who is the Lawgiver. That God institution (sic) government. He has three institutions: He has the Church, he has the family, and he has government. Where those three intersect, that is the focus of The Family Leader. That is where we focus our attention, we focus our crosshairs.

God instituted government. That’s why we have the founders who referenced in the Declaration of Independence, ‘the law of nature and the law of nature’s God.’ Because they knew when you start walking away from the law of nature and the law of nature’s God and you start implementing your own laws about what’s best for Bob, what’s best for Greg, what’s best for Tamara, what’s best for Nancy, you will have a train wreck. there has to be a higher standard. And that’s the standard that we try to achieve here at the Family Leader, we try to promote at the Family Leader. The purpose of government: to promote righteousness.

All you have to do is look at God’s principles and precepts. They are for our good and our benefit, not our harm and our destruction. You apply his principles and precepts to economics, then your economic house is in order. You apply his principles and precepts to marriage and the family, well marriage and family is in order. You apply his principles and precepts to foreign policy, and foreign policy is in order. So, when you’re looking for the solutions, where should we look? We should look up, and not to the sides, and definitely not to the poll of the day.

Here’s the video:

Comments

  1. noahsarkive says

    WTF??! Apparently, garbled grammar is the hallmark of Christian conservatism. Ed, next time, please provide interlinear translation. Stuff like this gives me headaches.

  2. sh3baproject says

    so if a psycho who would launch nukes everywhere,kill everyone but whites,and steal from the poor,all in the name of god came to power,you would call it a god given government? plaats just earned a nomination for most stupid person alive award.

  3. says

    As a Conservative, I find it comforting that some people still believe in (and stand up for) Biblical values.

    I freak out when Muslins say what he says, though. Odd.

  4. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    why we have the founders who referenced in the Declaration of Independence, ‘the law of nature and the law of nature’s God.’

    Aussie not American so I don’t know it by heart but pretty sure that ain’t actually in the Declaration of Independence is it?

    You apply his principles and precepts to foreign policy, and foreign policy is in order.

    So, capturing slaves from nations you’ve invaded is okay now then?

  5. raven says

    happen to believe the reason you will see a leader who is in over his head, why you will see a Congress with a nine percent approval rating, and why you see rogue justices taking authority that isn’t theirs to take, is that they have forgotten, many of them have forgotten who is the Lawgiver. That God institution (sic) government.

    Actually one of the main problems with our government is the Christofascist Tea Party. The god babblers who openly hate America and will destroy it if they can. People like Bob Vander Plaats.

    We need to get them out and the christofascists have recently lost a lot of elections in Virginia and elsewhere. It’s too soon to say if this trend will hold but we can hope.

    You apply his principles and precepts to foreign policy, and foreign policy is in order.

    The Jew tried that and lost their country and were almost destroyed. They were overrun by the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, and Romans who eventually kicked them out of Palestine. The xians persecuted them for 2,000 years until the Germans tried to finish them off and killed half of them.

    Being god’s chosen people and relying on him proved to be a disaster.

    I suppose if we follow bilbical foreign policy, we weill be overrun by waves of Canadians, Inuit, Mexicians, Greenlanders, and Costa Ricans. After that, it gets uglier.

  6. raven says

    He has three institutions: He has the Church, he has the family, and he has government. Where those three intersect, that is the focus of The Family Leader.

    That is where we focus our attention, we focus our crosshairs.

    Focus on your own damn family. And leave mine alone. And stay away from my kids and pets.

  7. jimnorth says

    @StevoR:

    The phrase in the DOI reads thusly; ” the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them,”.

    The problem for van der plaats is that the Declaration of Independence is not a legal document and is not the law of the land.

    It also clearly states, two sentences later, “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, “.

  8. psweet says

    Actually, Stevo, it is in there, in the preamble. Of course, for all of our veneration of that particular document, it isn’t actually an official document of the US. It was signed years before even the Articles of Confederation, in a time when the founders themselves weren’t sure that there was going to be a United Sates. Many of them were probably thinking of each colony as a separate nation, and many of them actually had established churches (all some form of Christianity, of course), so the idea of religious freedom was still quite tenuous at the time.

  9. dickspringer says

    Holland has been known as one of Europe’s most religiously tolerant countries for well over 500 years. Maybe Holland has achieved this by sending all its religious wingnuts elsewhere, such as to South Africa and here. We DO seem to have a lot of them with Dutch names.

    Full disclosure: I had a great grandfather named Cornelius van Riper van Roden. I don’t know anything about his politics.

  10. peterh says

    @ #10:

    Holland is where a fair proportion of the “Pilgrims” (actually separatist Puritans) went after England became politically too hot and morally “too loose.” for them. Didn’t work out; they then managed a charter for the Colonies where they could practice their priggish theocracy well away from the Crown, Parliament and the horrors of religious tolerance.

  11. acroyear says

    So, when you’re looking for the solutions, where should we look? We should look up

    gee, given that His word was

    for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you (Luke 17), I’ll wager he’s not likely to find the true solutions he thinks we’ll find by looking up.

  12. dingojack says

    acroyear –
    ‘1. And the Lord God said, ‘avail thyself of the holy Proctoscope and apply it to the appropriate hole.
    2. Look up therein, for truly the kingdom of God is up you and within you’.”
    = The Gospel according to Saul the Proctologist.
    Dingo

  13. says

    Most of God’s foreign policy precepts involve invading the nations of non believers, killing all the males (including children) and non-virginal females, kidnapping the virginal females as sex slaves, and destroying all their cultural and religious icons.

    But perhaps he means only applying the nice precepts that he likes. Which is, of course, basing your policy on human judgment in the form of picking and choosing which of “God’s precepts” are acceptable.

  14. John Pieret says

    “Religious liberties” = “My right to impose my religious beliefs on everyone else” (as long as Muslims aren’t a local majority, in which case it is SHARIA LAW!!!!!!).

  15. phred says

    In the 1770’s the phrase “Nature and Nature’s god” was understood to be a Deist concept, as opposed to “scripture and scripture’s god”, which would be how a Christian would put it. Soon after this period came the “great awakening” (snore) which seems to have put Deism is a far cupboard, out of sight. People then began to imagine that all references to providence, god, etc. meant the Christian conception of same. Kind of a twist to always hear Christians quoting Deists, who they think would support them in their theocratic blather.

  16. says

    The Family Leader sounds like a term that the Moonies or the government of North Korea would use. Interestingly like Kim Il Sung Reverend Sun Myung Moon was born in what is now North Korea. Must have been something it the water there in the early 1900s that produced authoritarian cranks.

  17. D. C. Sessions says

    Bob, since you have the inside track on the whole “Divine Law” that renders this whole “self government” thing totally unnecessary (not to mention blasphemous), I need some guidance on what God’s Divine Will for us says about:

    * Traffic flow. Left or right side of the street.
    * Same for pedestrians.
    * Left turn signals: before or after green?
    * Electrical power: 115 volts? 220 volts? 50 Hz? 60 Hz? Direct current?
    * …

  18. bolan says

    One problem is that the target audience of Bob Vander Plaats aren’t inclined to be critical of things that corroborate what they already believe, and readily buy into radicalization. Another is that those same people are not likely to be reading this forum, so have little chance of seeing the ridicule or reasoning here. I think we need to get these into venues that might be seen by those people.

    Perhaps we need to regularly search to see who is advertising this man, to see if refutations can be posted. I invite additional comments to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ZBN0c6YCw , and request that someone else follow up with blogs, such as that of the Des Moines Register (found on https://www.google.com/search?q=bob+vander+plaats&oq=bob+vander+plaats&aqs=chrome..69i57.6594j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 ).

  19. some bastard on the net says

    … many of them have forgotten who is the Lawgiver.

    All hail Pearl Forrester!

  20. kangxi says

    @modusoperandi

    psweet “Actually, Stevo, it is in there, in the preamble.”
    Preambles suck. Ambles rule.*

    * Go ambles! Woo!

    But where would all those Ambles go?
    I suppose they could all come to a place near where I live, in the English Lake District.
    Ambleside welcomes Ambles!

  21. shay says

    “I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.” Susan B. Anthony

  22. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    @7.jimnorth & #9 . psweet & #17.phred :

    Okay, thanks. I stand corrected.

    @11. Modusoperandi & #22. kangxi : I’d head out for a bit of an amble right now but its so hot* even my dog would be reluctant.

    * 43 degrees Celsius or 109 Fahrenehit outside right now.

  23. eric says

    * 43 degrees Celsius or 109 Fahrenehit outside right now.

    While it’s nice here today, Thursday it was 8 F and Friday it was 15 F (-13 and -9 C, respectively). Want to trade?

  24. dingojack says

    Eric – nah come here. Today it peaked at 82.58 F at 8:54 pm Central Time…..
    :) Dingo
    ———–
    Currently: 81.32 F 51% humidity. Wind 8.077mi/h NNE

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