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Jan 22 2014

Garrow Wants a Military Coup

Jim Garrow, the far-right extremist con man who has convinced the right wing fever swamps that he’s a former CIA agent and that President Obama tried to nuke the United States, told wingnut radio show host Dave Hodges that he’s hoping for a military coup to remove Obama from office.

Garrow: It’s time to revolt. Frankly, it is. It is time to overthrow that which is illegal. So we have an interesting scenario: you either accept that this gentleman is in fact eligible to be president or you don’t accept that. You have to make up that for yourself, for your own mind. Is he in fact a legitimate president or is he not a legitimate president? So if he’s illegitimate, you don’t have to obey him. If he’s legitimate, then you must obey. But if he’s usurping the Constitution and the rule of law and acting as if he doesn’t have to obey it himself or that he can go beyond it or crush it, then he is in the wrong position and you don’t have to obey him.

Hodges: He is definitely an imposter, he’s a traitor. He needs to be in jail, not sitting in the beach somewhere out in Hawaii and coming back to the White House. But my fear is that our military, because we’re so dispersed all over the world, we’re not strong enough domestically to stand up to the Russians and Chinese that are here or will be here soon, and then their Canadian allies as well, as well as anybody else that might wear the blue helmet of the UN. So I think we don’t have any choice but to really engage in guerrilla warfare, long-term guerrilla warfare.

Garrow: Yeah, I’m leaning in that direction myself….

Hodges: If our top military leadership decided that this president is leading us into national suicide, could a coup succeed today?

Garrow: Yes. Would I hope for it? Yes. I most definitely would hope for it.

Hodges: We’d also have to arrest Congress because of what they’ve done with the NDAA, they’re traitors as well.

Garrow: Yes they are, yes they are. We need a fresh installation of people who believe in the Constitution and the rule of law. We need to be rid of the people who are there right now. It’s become an old boys club with entitlements and people are no longer representing the people, they’re representing themselves and their own entitlement.

Hodges: Do you foresee as a person, not someone with inside information, is a coup in our immediate future?

Garrow: Yes. Yes a coup is very close and it should be.

Hodges: What form do you think a coup would take? Would it be like the old movie with Kirk Douglas, “Seven Days in May”?

Garrow: No. I don’t see it being that.

Hodges: Would it be tanks to the White House?

Garrow: It could be, yeah, it could be. It could be just arresting this guy and taking him away.

Hodges: Would you presume the Secret Service would stand down or would they have to be dealt with?

Garrow: They would probably have to be dealt with, yeah.

It’s like they think they’re living in some South American banana republic where the military takes over whenever they want to. The Constitution subordinates the military to civilian authority for a reason. See, here’s the deal: You don’t get to simultaneously claim that you love the Constitution while demanding a military coup to destroy the concept of civilian control of the military. You can’t do both of those things without being a buffoon.

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  1. 1
    barry21

    Fear the Canadians!

  2. 2
    Larry

    Garrow probably has a huge chubby over the thought of having somebody else shoot at the Secret Service.

  3. 3
    blf

    [The military based in USAlienstani is] not strong enough domestically to stand up to the Russians and Chinese that are here or will be here soon, and then their Canadian allies as well, as well as anybody else that might wear the blue helmet of the UN.

    He forget the Trilateral Commission, Club of Rome, Illuminati, and the Reptilians from Outer Space. Not to mention all those millions of Al-Qaeda guerrillas hidden away inside the National Parks, and the Silurians digging up from below (their resemblance to the Reptilians is entirely coincidental).

  4. 4
    karmacat

    I welcome our Canadian overlords and especially their healthcare system.

  5. 5
    Chiroptera

    He is definitely an imposter….

    lol

    That isn’t really Obama in the White House? Yikes!

    -

    …that he’s hoping for a military coup to remove Obama from office.

    So did the American fascists in the lead up to WWII. And I believe during the Civil War Gen. McClellen had fantasies about leading a coup. I don’t have any examples in mind, but I think the dreams of a right wing dictatorship go right back to the earliest days of the Republic.

  6. 6
    D. C. Sessions

    blf, you forgot the Islamic hordes poised just across the Mexican border.

  7. 7
    John Pieret

    We need a fresh installation of people who believe in the Constitution and the rule of law.

    “We had to destroy it in order to save it.”

  8. 8
    sinned34

    Shit, how did he figure out us Canadians are going to help with a joint Russian and Chinese invasion of the United States? Since the cat’s out of the bag, here’s how it’s going to go down:

    1) we legalized gay marriage in Canada, which granted us control of the weather (God wants to inflict damage upon our heathen heads, and the only way he can do that, apparently, is through storms and floods and such).
    2) we use those powers to send cold arctic weather vortexes into the United States to wreak havoc and destabilize your country
    3) ???
    4) PROFIT!!!1!

  9. 9
    ArtK

    @ D.C.Sessions

    I thought that they were Chinese hordes at the Mexican border. I’m soooooooo confused!

  10. 10
    besomyka

    as well as anybody else that might wear the blue helmet of the UN.

    But.. but the USA wears the blue helmet of the UN. Hell, we comprise the majority of the peacekeeping troops!

    I’m sure they’ve othered the UN into some twisted simulacrum of the actual UN.

  11. 11
    Marcus Ranum

    It is time to overthrow that which is illegal.

    I get stuck in an infinite regress. Because overthrowing the government is illegal, too, which means that I should overthrow my attempt to overthrow the illegal government. But that’s illegal, so I should overthrow my attempt to overthrow my attempt to overthrow the illegal government! Except that’s illegal as well, forcing me to overthrow my attempt to overthrow my attempt to overthrow my attempt to overthrow my attempt to overthrow my attempt to overthrow my attempt to…

  12. 12
    blf

    Yeah, I thought the hordes hidden away in Mexico were from the Far East (Big & Nasty China? North Korea? The volcano with a retractable roof?), and it was Al-Qaeda guerrillas hidden away inside the National Parks.

    The real question, however, is simple: Are the FEMA camps really empty? What about the freight trains that will be used to transport all the people to the camps? Who is being temporarily housed in them?

  13. 13
    John Pieret

    ArtK @ 9:

    I thought that they were Chinese hordes at the Mexican border. I’m soooooooo confused!

    No, you’re right! It’s the Chinese hordes at the Mexican border; the Islamic hordes are hiding in the national parks.

  14. 14
    shouldbeworking

    Too bad he didn’t work in the invasion by the British army and Canadian militia only 200 years ago. Now that we’re independent of the UK, we get to choose our allies.

    The Islamic hordes are hiding in your national parks, the Chinese hordes are at the Mexican border and we Canadians mounted on our attack moose are waiting for the next polar vortex to strike.

  15. 15
    jnorris

    In the afternoon of Friday, January 20, 2017, Inauguration Day, Mr Garrow will sink into the warm comforting embrace of obscurity and insignificance.

  16. 16
    blf

    [US] comprise the majority of the peacekeeping troops!

    No (PDF). According to the UN itself, in December 2013, US contributions were only 22 troops. Uruguay, who is not the largest contributor, contributes 2129 troops.

    I recall reading in the past one reason most peacekeeping troops don’t come from the established military powers is because the contributing nations need the money the UN pays. There are probably political reasons as well (both internal and internationally).

  17. 17
    John Pieret

    we Canadians mounted on our attack moose are waiting for the next polar vortex to strike.

    But waiting politely at the Americam checkpoints for permission to cross.

  18. 18
    blf

    we Canadians mounted on our attack moose …

    Attack moose — singular — you only have ONE ?

    It’s either very Very Big, you plan on making multiple trips, or you’re gonna let the Russians and other do all the heavy lifting. Or do the Canadians have a Doctor Who-style compression field, and have just temporarily shrunk the physical size & mass of the troops?

  19. 19
    D. C. Sessions

    In the afternoon of Friday, January 20, 2017, Inauguration Day, Mr Garrow will sink into the warm comforting embrace of obscurity and insignificance.

    Only if the person being inaugurated is A Real American™. If it’s a Democrat Usurper (in other words, not legitimate) he’ll continue his Cruzade.

  20. 20
    stace

    I welcome our Canadian overlords and especially their healthcare system.,

    Rob Ford for President, everybody gets a crack pipe, yay!!

  21. 21
    Strewth

    bif@18 – the correct plural of moose is moose. This is part of our clever plan to disguise the numbers of our forces. The good citizens of Buffalo tried to warn you discreetly, but you JUST WOULDN’T LISTEN.

  22. 22
    bruceheerssen

    Also, since when does anyone outside of the executive branch or the military have to obey the President, however legitimate or illegitimate he may be? He’s not royalty, after all.

  23. 23
    bushrat

    I see comments on here about Canadians amassing and hiding a huge war machine. I can assure you that is not true. Canadians are just so incredibly awesome that is will seem like you’re getting your ass kicked by some huge army, when really it will just be the Canadian Armed Forces marching band on a drunken weekend pass. Why do you think the Chinese and the Russians want to buddy up to us? They already know the terrible power of even a single Canadian. Americans should really just give up now.

  24. 24
    Synfandel

    bruceheerssen, that’s what jumped out at me.

    So if he’s illegitimate, you don’t have to obey him. If he’s legitimate, then you must obey.

    Does he think the US president is the ‘commander-in-chief’ of the American people?

  25. 25
    mickwright

    You have to make up [Obama's eligibility] for yourself, for your own mind.

    That, right there. That’s what’s wrong with this man.

  26. 26
    Synfandel

    A fifth column of Canadian infiltrators is already occupying Hollywood. Elite troops include Rachel McAdams, MIke Myers, Ryan Reynolds, Emmanuelle Chriqui, Kim Cattrall, Anna Paquin, Malin Akerman, Seth Rogan, Michael Cera, Ellen Page, Hayden Christensen, Lorne Michaels, Evangeline Lilly, Ryan Gosling, Linda Evangelista, Michael J. Fox, Pamela Anderson, Will Arnett, Martin Short, Keanu Reeves, Jim Carrey, Elisha Cuthbert, Sandra Oh, James Cameron, Carly Rae Jepsen, Dan Aykroyd, Emily VanCamp, Eric McCormack, Jason Reitman, and Keifer Sutherland.

  27. 27
    colnago80

    Speaking of Canada, I suspect that the Canadian branch of the Israel bashers marching and chowder society is up in arms over Prime Minister Harper.

    http://goo.gl/u1GVQO

  28. 28
    bruceheerssen

    Synfandel, these people are, at heart, extremely authoritarian. I suspect that’s exactly what he thinks.

  29. 29
    d.c.wilson

    If the plural of goose is geese, why isn’t the plural of moose, meese? For that matter, why isn’t it mongeese?

    Never understood that.

    Anyways, I’m Real AmericanTM. I even have my certificate of whiteness here. I’m not worried about the invading Canadian horde since you guys legalized weed and your politicians started talking to aliens. Garrow is a complete nutbar. It’s the aliens we have to worry about. They’re going to anal probe our freedoms!

  30. 30
    timgueguen

    If Hillary does become Pres in 2016 I wonder if we won’t see some clause of the US Constitution dug up to claim a woman can’t be President.

  31. 31
    Synfandel

    I’m not worried about the invading Canadian horde since you guys legalized weed…

    Medicinal marijuana for pain control, glaucoma, and a few other conditions, is legal in Canada, but requires a doctor’s prescription. Recreational marijuana is still illegal, but police aren’t enforcing the law very strictly on people found to have personal use quantities; they’re mainly after the unlicensed growers and dealers. Small time possession charges are widely viewed as a waste of police resources and court time and many Canadians feel that a criminal record for possession unfairly messes up a lot of young people’s future employment opportunities—not to mention their ability to pass security at the US border. There’s discussion of writing tickets for possession of small amounts, much like parking tickets, without criminal proceedings.

    Justin Trudeau, leader of the middle-of-the-spectrum and currently third-place Liberal Party, has been talking lately about legalizing marijuana, but it’s not yet an official position of his party. Mr. Trudeau has a penchant for reading the demographics and supporting policies that younger voters tend to back. He appears to be playing the long game. Polls suggest that there is a reasonable probability that the Liberals might form the next federal government in 2015. If that happens, it will be interesting to see if legalization has legs.

  32. 32
    Trebuchet

    I’m half-remembering seeing something, somewhere, indicating Garrow is himself Canadian. I’m probably imagining it, but can anyone confirm or disprove?

  33. 33
    timgueguen

    Garrow’s Canadian citizenship has come up several times in comment sections here in the last week or so, including one for a post about Garrow claiming the RCMP was investigating to see if his car had been tampered with.

  34. 34
    Squiddhartha

    Synfandel, I call shenanigans on Hayden Christensen being considered an elite anything.

    d.c. wilson, obviously the plural of mongoose is polygoose.

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