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Jan 21 2014

Nancy Grace’s Reefer Madness

Nancy Grace had Mason Tvert, Director of Communications for the Marijuana Policy Project, on her show and had her usual hysterical and melodramatic overreaction. Marijuana must remain illegal, she declared, because it causes people to “kill whole families.”

Sensing an opportunity, Grace responded, “in a nutshell, could you say why you think marijuana should be legalized — because, I mean, you know it’s addictive, highly addictive.”

Tvert replied that “marijuana’s addictive properties have been found to be actually pretty mild compared to alcohol and tobacco, and even caffeine.”

“So you — you are admitting it is addictive,” Grace interjected.

“Yes,” Tvert replied, “so is sex, so are video games.”

“So you’re admitting it! You’re admitting it!”

After Tvert calmed Grace down by pointing out that many recreational users are “normal people, just like you, who enjoy using marijuana for the same reason people enjoy having a drink after work,” Grace again interrupted him.

“The reason I’m against legalization is that I’ve seen too many felonies — felonies — and I don’t mean pot sales or growing pot,” she continued. “I mean people on pot that shoot each other, that stab each other, that strangle each other, that kill whole families — wipe out a whole family.”

Dogs and cats, living together – mass hysteria! Almost 40% of Americans have smoked pot, or some 150 million people or so. A vanishingly small percentage of them did anything violent and certainly not because they smoked pot. And seriously, is there a human being on earth that actually likes Nancy Grace? She has the charm of an ebola virus. She’s like a cross between your prissy, nosy next door neighbor and a rabid wolverine. I can’t imagine her own family liking her.

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  1. 1
    cottonnero

    I know the Constitution forbids bills of attainder, but between Nancy Grace and marijuana, I know which one I would want to be illegal.

  2. 2
    left0ver1under

    The wikipedia entry on her says:

    Prosecutorial misconduct

    The Supreme Court of Georgia has twice commented on Grace’s conduct as a prosecutor. First, in a 1994 heroin-trafficking case, Bell v. State, the Court declared a mistrial, saying that Grace had “exceeded the wide latitude of closing argument” by drawing comparisons to unrelated murder and rape cases.

    Gee, that doesn’t sound anything close to what she’s saying about marijuana. 9_9

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Grace

  3. 3
    Moggie

    “I mean people who have sex that shoot each other, that stab each other, that strangle each other, that kill whole families — wipe out a whole family”.

  4. 4
    Jeremy Shaffer

    By Grace’s reasoning then she must be all for making gun ownership illegal.

  5. 5
    matty1

    What are the stats on violence among regular pot smokers versus drinkers?

  6. 6
    MikeMa

    My wife was addicted to the Arias trial. As a result, Grace was on our teevee a lot. It got to the point I couldn’t tolerate her voice any longer and had to leave the room when she began her gish gallop and overwrought bullshit.

  7. 7
    Taz

    She better hope Nancy Grace doesn’t hear about this!

    Nancy Grace vs Nancy Grace

  8. 8
    dingojack

    MikeMa – yes, but did you wife’s addiction cause her to “… kill whole families — wipe out a whole family”?
    If so, Nancy Grace doesn’t approve. @@
    Dingo
    ——–
    Any betting whether she thinks Reefer Madness is a documentary?

  9. 9
    dugglebogey

    If you want the channel changed in my house, put Nancy Grace’s mean face and stupid voice on the air. Instant click.

  10. 10
    colnago80

    Let’s see,

    1. Nancy Grace declared that Gary Condit murdered Chandra Levy, that the Duke lacrosse players raped Crystal Gail Magnum, that Richard Ricci kidnapped Elizabeth Smart among other claims that turned out to be erroneous.

    2. She never met a prosecutor who indited an innocent defendant.

    3. She was fired from her job as an assistant prosecutor in Atlanta for her unprofessional conduct there.

    4. She has promoted psychics on her program as an aid to law enforcement.

    All in all, she is a disgrace to the legal profession, which, thankfully she no longer practices. Considering that she is a loud mouth and rude individual, with a habit of interrupting her “guests’, I find it amazing that anyone would go on her program. She is as bad as the assholes on the Fascist News Channel.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-doyle/nancy-grace_b_1289604.html

  11. 11
    peterh

    Someone could start a poll: Which widely-seen personality(ies) will have you running to the off button and/or from the room? For starters,

    Nancy Grace
    Dr. Phil
    Oprah Winfrey
    Rush Limbaugh
    Glen Beck
    Rand Paul
    Ted Cruz
    Rick Perry

  12. 12
    colnago80

    I guess my comment linking to a post by Jonathan Turley on Grace, the disgrace got lost. Try again.

    http://goo.gl/maUBLx

  13. 13
    troll

    “I mean people on pot that shoot each other, that stab each other, that strangle each other, that kill whole families — wipe out a whole family.”

    [citation needed]

  14. 14
    colnago80

    And yet, Grace the disgrace has her defenders. Look at the comments on the post from the huffingtonpost. linked to @ #10.

  15. 15
    MikeMa

    @Dingojack,
    The worst my wife’s addiction cost was some lost sleep on my part when the screechy voice came on in the middle of the night.

    @peterh
    Grace is my top of the list. Michelle Bachmann & Sarah Palin also have obnoxious voices but nothing compared to Grace. With Bachmann, I hear her voice and see her eyes bugging out while spouting some fundy lie. When Palin speaks, all I hear is ‘look at me!’.
    Dr Oz should b on the list along with Pat Roberson.

  16. 16
    caseloweraz

    And seriously, is there a human being on earth that actually likes Nancy Grace?

    There were, but she shot them after taking a puff from a joint one offered. Then she stabbed them. Then she strangled them.

    /sarc

  17. 17
    Raging Bee

    “The reason I’m against legalization is that I’ve seen too many felonies — felonies — and I don’t mean pot sales or growing pot,” she continued. “I mean people on pot that shoot each other, that stab each other, that strangle each other, that kill whole families — wipe out a whole family.”

    Well, being a former prosecutor and all, she should be able to come up with plenty of actual cases to support her claims. That’s what prosecutors do.

    Oh wait, she was fired from that job for gross incompetence and had to do “entertainment” instead. Never mind.

  18. 18
    scienceavenger

    Who?

  19. 19
    Raging Bee

    Oh, and I gotta wonder how Tvert felt about having to calm the person interviewing him on her own show. Nasty Grace can’t even control herself on her own turf?

  20. 20
    cycleninja

    I seem to remember that when the prosecutor in the Duke lacrosse team case was disbarred, Grace took the day off so she wouldn’t have to report on it, then emerged from her coffin the night afterward as if it never happened. She is, as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle famously wrote, a “bully, coward, and sneak.”

  21. 21
    Kalli Procopio

    I recently heard about a survey of police chiefs. According to that survey, most police chiefs would prefer marijuana to be legal and alcohol to be illegal. It seems alcohol tends to make people more violent than pot.

  22. 22
    scienceavenger

    @11 Paul and Perry are too damned entertaining, but in addition to the rest of your list:

    Sarah Palin – media whore
    Stuart Varney – a little too obvious about his marching orders to spin all financial news as bad, and Obama’s fault
    Herman Cain – a performance artist, and a bad one
    Chris Christie (a recent addition) – you can only talk about the bridge so much
    Michael Medved – why should I or anyone else give a rats ass what a second-rate movie critic thinks of anything
    Deepak Chopra – woo, woo, woo, and aging just as fast as everyone else
    Al Sharpton – con man and carnival barker of politics
    Darrell Issa – GOP hit man
    Ed Shultz – Lefty Limbaugh wannabe
    SE Cupp – fake and liar
    Michael Eric Dyson – pictured next to “supercilious” in the dictionary

    It’s amazing how much news one can absorb if you avoid all the timesucking black holes out there.

  23. 23
    John Pieret

    I have been (apparently blissfully) unaware of Grace up until this point in my life. I will strive mightily to maintain my record in this regard.

    The only thing I ever wanted to kill when I was smoking pot was that pan of brownies on the table over there.

  24. 24
    vmanis1

    I became a Grace-worshipper when she announced that the jury in the then-running Michael Jackson trial had to find him guilty of child molestation because he owned a monkey. Such breathtaking logic requires some kind of echo, even if only a laugh track.

  25. 25
    colnago80

    Re cycleninja @ #20

    Are you insinuating that Grace the disgrace is a vampire? Compared to her, Count Dracula is a prince of a guy.

  26. 26
    caseloweraz

    The best part is at the end of the article:

    Sir,” Tvert replied, “Give me a break. Come on. The fact is that the majority of Americans are on my side because your side can’t come up with a legitimate argument.”

    “Well,” Grace said to the treatment specialist, “I guess that makes you and me complete space aliens, because the last thing I want is for the children — my twins — seeing me boozing it up.”

    “I mean, when my husband drinks Diet Coke, I make him put it in an opaque plastic cup.”

    Better hang a curtain across the living room, Nancy, like those around hospital beds, so you can pull it closed when you and your husband drink diet coke. I mean, even with a cup that’s opaque, your twins could still deduce that you are drinking.

  27. 27
    plutosdad

    I’m sure there are pot SELLERS who shot others in disputes over distribution rights (i.e. turf), but that was for money, they were certainly not high on pot at the time.

    All of that violence ends if pot is legal, just like the mob is not out shooting up people over alcohol distribution.

  28. 28
    d.c.wilson

    Ironically, Nancy Grace could probably benefit from a toke or two. It might improve her disposition.

  29. 29
    dingojack

    SLC – Silas Brown is a vampire?!? I thought he was just a horse thief.
    Dingo
    ——–
    See Silver Blaze.

  30. 30
    colnago80

    Re chihuahua @ #29

    What the fuck does Silas Brown and Sherlock Holmes have to do with my fellow cyclist’s comment @ #20?” Maybe chihuahua is suffering from heat stroke as I understand it is hotter then hell in OZ these days.

  31. 31
    dingojack

    SLC – ‘She is, as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle famously wrote, a “bully, coward, and sneak.”’
    Reading, try it you might like it.
    Dingo

  32. 32
    colnago80

    Re chihuahua @ #29

    Possibly chihuahua is referring to the short story, The Adventure of the Sussex Vampire.

  33. 33
    colnago80

    Re chihuahua @ #32

    ‘She is, as Sir Arthur Conan Doyle famously wrote, a “bully, coward, and sneak.”’
    Reading, try it you might like it.

    My fellow cyclist said the following:

    Grace took the day off so she wouldn’t have to report on it, then emerged from her coffin the night afterward as if it never happened.

    Try taking your own advice.

  34. 34
    Area Man

    “I mean, when my husband drinks Diet Coke, I make him put it in an opaque plastic cup.”

    Being her husband must be some special kind of hell.

  35. 35
    Trebuchet

    The only thing more disgusting than hearing Nancy Disgrace herself is listening to the fans (all woman, as far as I know) who call up and tell her how awesome she is. An opinion she entirely agrees with.

  36. 36
    busterggi

    Genesis 1:29 ” And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.”

    Why does Nancy Grace hate god?

  37. 37
    hoku

    Nancy Grace hysterical? In breaking news, water has recently been confirmed to be wet.

  38. 38
    freehand

    Sir,” Tvert replied, “Give me a break. Come on. The fact is that the majority of Americans are on my side because your side can’t come up with a legitimate argument.”
    “Well,” Grace said to the treatment specialist, “I guess that makes you and me complete space aliens, because the last thing I want is for the children — my twins — seeing me boozing it up.”
    “I mean, when my husband drinks Diet Coke, I make him put it in an opaque plastic cup.”

    I have read this several times, and I am baffled. I am appalled that anyone would think this a reasonable response to a simple assertion.
    1. Presumably when she says “makes [us] complete space aliens” she means something along the line of “we must be completely different species”. Not yet, i think, but we are getting there.
    2. What does boozing it up have to do with failing to make an argument for continued criminalization of marijuana? She says “because” indicating a causal link, but I cannot fathom what that might be.

    If she were OK with the kids seeing her and dad boozing it up, does that mean that the guest’s assertion would not make her & and the guest complete space aliens?

    3. What does diet coke have to do with booze or weed?
    4. Why an opaque plastic cup – do her children not know that dad is drinking?

    I shudder to think what this sounds like delivered by an unpleasant voice and attitude.

  39. 39
    Trebuchet

    I forgot to mention in my earlier post that Nancy is, not surprisingly, a huge fan of “Sheriff Joe” Arpaio. Except she seemed to think that conditions in his jail might be too lenient.

  40. 40
    Area Man

    4. Why an opaque plastic cup – do her children not know that dad is drinking?

    My guess is that she doesn’t want her kids drinking soda, so she doesn’t want dad to be a bad influence by being seen drinking soda.

    Although I’m not sure why she doesn’t just force her husband to stop drinking the soda by putting his balls in a vice grip.

  41. 41
    WMDKitty -- Survivor

    “The reason I’m against legalization is that I’ve seen too many felonies — felonies — and I don’t mean pot sales or growing pot,” she continued. “I mean people on pot that shoot each other, that stab each other, that strangle each other, that kill whole families — wipe out a whole family.”

    *snortle*
    *giggle*
    *ROFL*

    Oh, on alcohol, sure, meth or coke, even… but weed? Barring an extreme bad reaction to cannabinoids (rare, but entirely possible under the wrong conditions), that’s…. no. You’re not gonna find some ‘head that got stoned and killed his whole family.

    That said, yeah… my abuser was a ‘head, but he was also into a lot of other things, and had severe untreated mental health issues that smoking pot was, well, not helping at all.

  42. 42
    democommie

    “Dr Oz should b on the list along with Pat Roberson.”

    Dr. Oz and everyone else on that list should be part of the Carton Portrait Gallery, milk carton, that is.

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