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Jan 09 2014

Glenn Beck is Right About Something!

I do enough bashing of Glenn Beck, let me give some credit where credit is due. He’s come out very publicly and strongly against Russia’s anti-gay law, calling it “really, really disturbing” and saying that everyone, including the churches, should be opposed to it. But he’s wrong when he says it “isn’t a gay issue, it’s a human issue.” It’s a gay issue because it’s gay people only who are being targeted. There’s a lot of crap in this clip, but bravo for saying that law is wrong.

And with that, he has lost the Freepers:

I am concluding that Glenn Beck has either lost his mind, or is slowly becoming a leftist. Today on his site are two rather disturbing videos. The first in which he continues his crusade to support GLAAD, comparing Russia’s law protecting minors from homosexual propaganda to the Holocaust, and blowing up incendiary comments made by a Russian actor for no apparent reason other than to help push the narrative of permanent victimhood that the homosexual lobby thrives on. Here, we can be treated to Glenn engaging in left wing obfuscation more likely to be used by Al Sharpton than any conservative. Glenn says GLAAD are a cartoon to him. Well, they arent’ a cartoon to the Christians they have maligned and smeared over the years, aiding foul disgusting individuals like Dan Savage. Like the Freedom From Religion Foundation, GLAAD is a cultural terrorist organization. It does not seek to blow buildings up, but to take a sledgehammer to cultural institutions to forward a deranged agenda of warped tolerance. Glenn closes by declaring some of ‘us’ have lost our humanity. Give ‘us’ a break. This is a non-story.

But this is not all. Not only has Glenn continued full steam ahead with this empty cry of persecution in Russia, he also has written a heartfelt letter of understanding to none other than MSNBC’s resident corn-rowed doofus, Melissa Harris-Perry. You’ll recall Melissa has been embroiled in controversy since she and left wing comedians on a panel made some pretty disgusting remarks about the Romney’s adopted grandson, who is black. Glenn is asked if its the same as Alec Baldwin’s recent firing for his remarks off-set, and he merely brushes it aside saying ‘Alec Baldwin is a bad man’…. really? And what exactly makes Melissa a ‘good person at heart’? Is it her disgusting remarks about unborn children, or her wish to have people’s kids removed from their families as property of the state? Is Martin Bashir a good guy, or a bad guy? I don’t know where the hell this came from, but its ridiculous. Perry was exposed on that panel for the wretched demagogue she is, a phony race-baiter, and a sniping untalented stooge with zero moral foundation. If she’s fired, good riddance. She’s not a good person, she’s a left wing statist with Stalinist positions on just about everything.

It’s been a long time coming, but it’s now quite clear Beck has abandoned conservatives, but he’ll no doubt be calling them back just as soon as he has an announcement to announce. And I used to really enjoy his take on things.

*snicker*

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  1. 1
    richardelguru

    “Glenn closes by declaring some of ‘us’ have lost our humanity. Give ‘us’ a break. This is a non-story.”
     
    Most old news is…

  2. 2
    matty1

    Glenn closes by declaring some of ‘us’ have lost our humanity. Give ‘us’ a break. This is a non-story.

    Because everyone already knew the freepers had lost their humanity?

  3. 3
    Donnie

    I cannot help it:

    Like the Freedom From Religion Foundation, GLAAD is a cultural terrorist organization. It does not seek to blow buildings up, but to take a sledgehammer to cultural institutions to forward a deranged agenda of warped tolerance . Glenn closes by declaring some of ‘us’ have lost our humanity. Give ‘us’ a break. This is a non-story.

    Oh, the humanity! Tolerance…we don’t need no stinking tolerance around here. We are proud of being racists and homophobes! If you do not like it, get out of America. America was founded on the hatred of gays, minorities and immigrants! (okay, the last one was true, but humanity is getting better.

    But, of course, this writer is totally not racist….

    to none other than MSNBC’s resident corn-rowed doofus , Melissa Harris-Perry

    And the writer is not homophobic. The writer just thinks gays are icky.

    they arent’ [sic] a cartoon to the Christians they have maligned and smeared over the years, aiding foul disgusting individuals like Dan Savage

    I highlighted this not for the FtB crowd, but for any kook freepers that come along due to the link. Hopefully, a not too far deluded freeper or two will stay around and actually learn a little bit about the liberal agenda of humanity, tolerance, and not giving a flying fuck about someone else’s business.

  4. 4
    Donnie

    Props for Beck’s for one small act of standing up for the downtrodden. Small props. Much like the new Pope. very small props. There has been a lot of damage done in both names that needs to be corrected before anything more than a hat tip is given.

    Beck’s damage is mostly towards the twisting of logic and reason into a mangled heap of molten false equivalence where one’s belief in the truth supercedes reality and fact.

  5. 5
    Gregory in Seattle

    I cannot see YouTube videos from work, but let me guess: he objects to the law because it does not go far enough.

  6. 6
    bricewgilbert

    Really wanted to shut it off when he begins by saying things like GLADD and the like are unnecessary because they focus on one issue that “divides us” instead of general human rights…

  7. 7
    Alverant

    It’s a human issue because
    1) Gays are human
    2) Gays have human relatives who would miss them if imprisoned
    3) The law also says you can’t speak out for gay rights and free speech is a human issue

    But I doubt this is why Beck said it was a human issue.

  8. 8
    Modusoperandi

    …to help push the narrative of permanent victimhood that the homosexual lobby thrives on.

    “Don’t those homos know that we are the real victims?”

  9. 9
    busterggi

    Does this mean I should sell all my gold?

  10. 10
    frog

    Modusoperandi@8: Yeah, seriously! A guy could hurt himself while beating up someone!

  11. 11
    John Pieret

    he says it “isn’t a gay issue, it’s a human issue.” It’s a gay issue because it’s gay people only who are being targeted.

    I kind of agree with Beck more than I do you, Ed. Without trying to drill down deep into Beck’s phraseology (because that would be a dry hole, since it is all emotional stream of consciousness), I think he trying to say that gays are human too and that counts more than any political or religious differences anyone may have with them. Thus, while the Russian law is certainly an issue for gays, since they are the ones being bashed, it is bigger than just that and all human beings should be against it. For whom the bell tolls and all that …

  12. 12
    Nemo

    What did MHP say, does anybody know?

  13. 13
    a_ray_in_dilbert_space

    Gay issue or human issue? Well, I am reminded of the definition of “committed” I heard one time:

    On a plate of ham and eggs, the chicken was involved, but the pig was committed.

    So, yeah, I think it is a gay issue, but it is a gay issue that any life form daring to call itself human has an obligation to be concerned about. The freepers need not apply.

  14. 14
    A. Noyd

    John Pieret (#11)

    I think he trying to say that gays are human too and that counts more than any political or religious differences anyone may have with them.

    He’s talking about how he sees gays as humans in order to accuse gay rights activists of myopically concentrating only on something that affects themselves, as if that comes at the expense of other people and as if gays don’t already see their problems as a subset of abuses against humanity in general. Even if he ends up on the right side, he’s in denial that anti-gay prejudice is something uniquely experienced by gays. Beck actually says (1:36) gays are the ones making Russia’s extreme anti-gay laws and activities “into a gay issue.” In the minds of people like Beck, the straight majority hasn’t singled out same sex love as something to other or criminalize; no, gay people are the ones who set themselves apart by choosing to make their sexuality salient. Gay people are being “divisive” when they make a big deal out of anti-gay prejudice. Prejudice is just prejudice and people should only ever fight against prejudice in a general, all-encompassing sense.

    It’s actually very typical for privileged people to use this tactic against any marginalized group. I see it used a lot against people of color. To paraphrase the common sentiment: “Why do you have to make such a big deal about race? All people treat other people terribly at times. We should work to stop all prejudice. If you insist on making it about race, then we can’t move away from thinking about things in those terms and you’re the one keeping racism alive.” It’s really an exercise in false equivalence which denies that prejudice against a particular group has unique characteristics and requires unique countermeasures. It also assumes that pretending not to see differences will keep one’s from making bigoted associations and biased actions—which is completely false.

  15. 15
    changerofbits

    It’s a Free Republic, unless you’re gay or black or not a Jesus lover, apparently. Props to Glenn Beck for at least coming down on the right side of freedom for openly gay folks.

  16. 16
    Ichthyic

    And I used to really enjoy his take on things.

    man, sure sucks to be you.

  17. 17
    slavdude

    I call shenanigans. It’s too well written to be a Freeper thing.

  18. 18
    grumpyoldfart

    Beck said that through gritted teeth and now he will use it to ‘prove’ that he is a reasonable man. Whenever he is accused of extremism he will point to that statement and say, “It proves that I am broadminded and reasonable.”

    It’s a popular ploy used by many in the public eye. The new Pope is a fine example: Early in his reign he said that atheists are allowed into heaven and now he’s regarded as the most reasonable Pope in ages.

  19. 19
    John Horstman

    busterggi wins the thread.

  20. 20
    lorn

    Soooo … Mister Glen Beck, are you going to take that from a low-life Freeper?

    And mister Freeper, you really need to sharpen your attack, there was shocking lack of venom and random capitalization in your comment. Glen Beck has been insulted by professionals. You need to up your game, go for the throat, make it personal. If you aren’t willing to make threats and go for blood, how can you be taken seriously?

  21. 21
    Vicki, duly vaccinated tool of the feminist conspiracy

    When exactly did criticizing the Russia government become a sign of leftism?

  22. 22
    gopiballava

    A. Noyd:
    “Why do you have to make such a big deal about race? All people treat other people terribly at times. We should work to stop all prejudice.”

    Hmm. That’s an interesting thing to think about. How many people who are prejudiced actually think that there is anything wrong with what they’re doing?

    The more internally consistent anti-gay bigots are very clear that they think homosexuality is wrong. They are treating gays badly because they deserve to be treated badly. I assume that we are in agreement that there exist bad people who we shouldn’t treat particularly nicely – thieves, people who run puppy mills, etc, etc. So, “just be nice” makes no sense because it’s not accurate.

    Would it make sense to try to educate people about the criteria for when it’s fair to show disapproval of a group? That could be quite a challenging philosophical debate, and not one that we can expect to get the majority of the populace involved in.

    To me, attacking the specific forms of discrimination and bigotry seems like it’s quite possibly not merely a reasonable idea but is actually the best approach…

  23. 23
    Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :)

    but bravo for saying that law is wrong.

    Pfeh

  24. 24
    John Pieret

    A. Noyd @ 14:

    You may be right. As I said, there is little use in trying to parse Beck’s stream of consciousness emotionalism. He is certainly dismissive of GLADD and NOW. He may just be saying the right things for the wrong reasons … but if he pisses off the Freepers, that’s still probably the right thing to say.

  25. 25
    A. Noyd

    gopiballava (#22)

    I assume that we are in agreement that there exist bad people who we shouldn’t treat particularly nicely

    It really depends on what you mean by not nice treatment. I don’t want to see thieves and unscrupulous puppy breeders rewarded, but I don’t think they deserve to have their rights as human beings violated, either.

    To me, attacking the specific forms of discrimination and bigotry seems like it’s quite possibly not merely a reasonable idea but is actually the best approach…

    Yes, that’s what I think. It’s silly trying to get people to stop harming group X if they don’t understand what harms group X in the first place outside of completely obvious things like murdering people for being in group X.

    ~*~*~*~*~*~

    John Pieret (#24)

    He may just be saying the right things for the wrong reasons … but if he pisses off the Freepers, that’s still probably the right thing to say.

    I’m not down with the enemy of my enemy crap. Beck could just as easily piss off the Freepers without lying about gay (and women’s) rights activists.

  26. 26
    dingojack

    I’m wondering if Mr Bek’s internal ‘logic’ goes a little like this:
    Damn they’ll be coming after Me once my demographic shrinks enough (just like I jerked-off over doing to Them when the tables were turned), better suck up to my ‘new lizard icky sweatymansex homo Overlords’ now; so I can cry ‘waaaah! help! I’m being criticised Oppressed!’ and demand they support Me! ’cause see what good boy I am (Where did I put that super-sized container of oxy again?)
    ;/ Dingo

  27. 27
    dingojack

    Although, having said that, it’s interesting to see how the right is ‘peeling off’. As the fact that ‘reality has a liberal bias’ sinks in, the pragmatists and the opportunists shift ground (under the rubric of ‘real conservatism’*) leaving the purists and the zealots to fight amongst themselves over an ever shrinking, ever less educated, ever more religious, ever ageing base. (hence the 11 point drop in acceptance of The Theory of Evolution amongst the PoG, as discussed elsewhere).
    Dingo
    ——-
    * ‘real conservatism’ = this was never a liberal idea in the first place, we championed it first, we always believed in this (yes you’ve got a youtube clip of me saying the exact opposite, but it was taken out of context), see [person X] was really one of us (even though, just last week, we called them ‘liberal’ or ‘communist’ or ‘rabble- rouser’ or whatever, but it was taken out of contest) and so on and so forth….
    In other words, Conservative Apologetics (ie a heady mix of dissembling, out-and-out lies, projection, rationalisations, misdirection, logical fallacies, hand-waving denial and cries of ‘nothing to see here’ & ‘business as usual’). [And they wonder why they're losing votes?]

  28. 28
    democommie

    I can’t listen to Bek, it’s like 900′ BABY JESUS’ fingernails on a chalkboard the size of 666 football fields.

    I notice, though, that he’s starting to go for the “Lefty Uncle Larry” look with the beard and growing his hair out. Am I the only one who sees him being played by Philip Seymour-Hoffman in a biopic?

    “Don’t those homos know that we are the real victims?”

    Wow, you too?

    I mean, people think I dress like I do and have a home that’s decorated in “Early Garage Sale” because I don’t know any better. I CAN’T do a better job, because I’m NOT teh GAY and don’t want people to think that I’m oneathem GOO*’s!

    * GAY Overlord Oppressors

  29. 29
    Callinectes

    Surely “gay issues” are a subset of “human issues”?

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