Barber: Only Christians are Free or Good


One of the hallmarks of the fundamentalist mindset is that they are utterly incapable of stepping outside of their ideology, even for a moment. Here’s a perfect example from Matt Barber in his latest Worldentdaily column, responding to a column by Valerie Tarico at Salon that pointed out the ways that his positions are losing.

What is the meaning of life? It’s not complicated. The meaning of life is to “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself’” (Luke 10:27).

This is true freedom. “It is for Freedom that Christ has set us free” (Galatians 5:5).

From the freedom of Christ stems “the fruit of the Spirit,” which is “love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control” (Galatians 5:22-23).

Without Christ, there is no freedom.

There is only death.

Oh, of course. No one but a Christians has ever been free since the beginning of time. Or loved. Or had joy. Or showed kindness, goodness, gentleness or self-control. I would consider this a sort of group solipsism, which defines everyone but Christians, indeed their particular brand of Christians, entirely out of the world. They do not exist, or if they do they exist only as terrible wretches with no positive attributes whatsoever.

Comments

  1. says

    I have *ALWAYS* gotten a gay vibe of epic proportions from Matt Barber. I’m not saying that just because he’s a homophobe; but I definitely expect a ‘scandal’ from this guy sooner or later.

  2. DaveL says

    Of course, Ed. All you have to do is redefine freedom, and goodness, love, joy, peace, forbearance, faithfulness, gentleness, kindness, and self-control, until all of them mean nothing more or less than being Christian. Also redefine death such that it means nothing more or less than not being Christian.

    Think of it as a form of ritual sacrifice. Instead of offering food or burnt animals to show their religious devotion, they sacrifice the meaning of words.

  3. Mr Ed says

    What is the meaning of life? It’s not complicated. The meaning of life is…</blockquote.

    42

    couldn't resist

  4. robnyny says

    The very idea that groveling before some imaginary spook would give my life meaning is comical.

  5. dingojack says

    So Jesus was part god and died. Does that make god not entirely Christian then?
    Dingo
    ——–
    Well Matt Barber is kinda right – in a way – it is simple.

  6. Trebuchet says

    @ Mr Ed: I’m so glad you did that so I wouldn’t have to. Unfortunately, as you see, the real meaning of life is that blockquote failures will strike you down.

    Meanwhile, it occurs to me that Barber isn’t very good at the “love your neighbor as yourself” part.

  7. Pierce R. Butler says

    Mr Barber, my life is meaningless.

    Because (a) I’m an American, living in the USA, and we don’t have any lords in this country; and

    (b) I don’t think my neighbor wants me to jack him off.

  8. barndad says

    “Without Christ, there is no freedom.
    There is only death.”
    Contrast with
    “There is no Dana, only Zuul”

  9. hunter says

    If you have to rely on something besides yourself to give your life meaning, I really feel sorry for you.

  10. says

    The whole idea of grovelling before the abusive sky father just to feel purpose in your life would be funny if it weren’t so sad. I’m no psychologist, but it seems like religion has emotionally stunted so many fundies into a purgatory of eternal childhood. It’s a parent’s job to raise their children into adults who can make their own decisions about how they live their lives, not to create a framework where they must always be obedient children for the sake of being obedient children.

  11. Michael Heath says

    What is the meaning of life? It’s not complicated. The meaning of life is to “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself’” (Luke 10:27).
    This is true freedom. “It is for Freedom that Christ has set us free” (Galatians 5:5).
    From the freedom of Christ stems “the fruit of the Spirit,” which is “love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control” (Galatians 5:22-23).
    Without Christ, there is no freedom.

    I received an email from a business associate this past Thanksgiving that made this same Orwellian assertion:

    I just wanted to send a quick note to say have a great Thanksgiving remembering all of those that gave us our freedom, from Christ to our military.

    Rather than freedom, I see these assertions describing the most extreme form of extortion possible. The demand you slavishly, childishly, submit your eternal being and if you don’t, a lake of fire for all eternity for you. I think they also misunderstand what the term ‘savior’ means given the supposed extortionist and the supposed savior are one and the same. In this world such an attempt would justly put you in jail for a very long time.

  12. busterggi says

    Freedom is accepting slavery to a petty sky magician or burning for eternity.

    Fuck the sky magician.

  13. jnorris says

    busterggi in # 16 wrote it first: Mr Barber left off the “or else” part of Jesus’ commands.

  14. EnlightenmentLiberal says

    @Matt Barber

    “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind.” […] This is true freedom.

    WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

    Without Christ, there is no freedom.

    There is only death.

    “Give me liberty, or give me death!”
    “I die free!” – http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IDieFree

  15. Akira MacKenzie says

    hunter @ 13

    Say’s who? Furthermore, why does life have to have “meaning?” Indeed, what does “meaning” even mean?

    Also, spare us your passive-agression masked as pity. It insults our intelligence.

  16. Ichthyic says

    what he describes is the freedom of a soldier.

    he cannot imagine not being a soldier.

    it makes him one of the most dangerous people on earth.

  17. had3 says

    The shepherd isn’t there for the benefit of the sheep. I’ve also wondered what gives god’s existence meaning if an entity can only derive meaning for its existence from a superior being?

  18. stripeycat says

    Bronze dog

    but it seems like religion has emotionally stunted so many fundies into a purgatory of eternal childhood

    Not just any old childhood, but a childhood with the most cruel, emotionally-blackmailing, manipulative authority figure you could imagine. This is exactly why I couldn’t accept religion aged 5-7: God of the bible was so much worse than Mum on her worst day or my most loathed teachers, or even things in the history books I wasn’t meant to have read. I went through a patch of hating/defying God, and mercifully realised it was all bullshit anyway as I learned to discern reality from fiction. But for a few years (and boy, can I still remember the nightmares!) I had God and basilisks in the same mental category as carpet bombing, Pol Pot, and hemorrhagic fever.

  19. stripeycat says

    had3

    The shepherd isn’t there for the benefit of the sheep.

    To be fair, domestic sheep don’t do too well in the absence of humans and the presence of large carnivores. I interpret the metaphor as “God is selfish and somewhat harmful to you, but better than a leopard or a wolf-pack”.

  20. boadinum says

    Matt Barber, the Meaning of Life is as follows:

    “Try and be nice to people, avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, get some walking in, and try and live together in peace and harmony with people of all creeds and nations.”

    So. There.

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