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TX Gov. Candidate: Help Me Secede So I Can Have You Killed

Every day I troll the fringe backwaters of the right wing (which are getting less fringe-y every day) but every once in a while I come across someone who is so off-the-charts oblivious that it leaves an indentation when my head hits the desk. Larry SECEDE Kilgore (he actually made SECEDE his middle name legally), who is running for Texas governor as a Republican, makes Bryan Fischer sound like Voltaire. He wants Texas to secede from the United States and become a theocracy where gay people would be put to death — and he thinks gay people should help him achieve his goal.

In addition to secession, Kilgore has previously advocated the death penalty for those who undergo abortions or commit adultery, along with otherwise strict adherence to so-called biblical law. But along with his views on LGBT issues, he’s taking all that off the table this go-round.

“The only position I have is secession,” Kilgore told Lone Star Q on Monday. “I am a Christian, and I have lots of Christian beliefs. However, I am trying to build a coalition of all different types of people. I look at the lesbians and the homosexual folks and I say, ‘Hey, D.C. is stealing my money just like they’re stealing your money.’ After we get our freedom, then we can decide all that stuff — hopefully at a county level. Right now, lesbians and homosexuals and Christians may have differences with each other, but we’ve got a bigger enemy.”…

Despite his past statements about abortion and adultery, I couldn’t find much online about Kilgore’s views on LGBT issues. The only previous mention seemed to be a summary of Kilgore’s positions that appeared in the Houston Chronicle in 2007: “Public use of vulgar sexual language would result in flogging. … Judges will flog more severely those convicted of transvestism.”…

Kilgore said he initially made the widely cited statement about “transvestism” in 2001 or 2002, prior to the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling striking down Texas’ sodomy law.

“Due to that ruling, Texas does not have that freedom anymore, so it would be silly for me under the current government system to try to come up with any laws against homosexuality behavior, because Texas is not free to do that at this moment in time,” Kilgore said. “I won’t be in power, and I won’t have any legislative say at that time, but yes, I would very much approve of a biblical law that prevented homosexual behavior in the new nation.”

Asked what the punishment for homosexuality should be under such a law, Kilgore told me: “According to the Bible, it should be execution, if anyone participates in that activity.”

He added that it’s no different from the punishment he would advocate for abortion or adultery, and he said it’s possible that after secession, Texas would have to “break up even more” — and some areas could choose to allow homosexuality or the “murder of babies.”

“In my gubernatorial run, it’s secession only, and I want to build a bridge with all different kinds of folks,” Kilgore said. “If there was a homosexual running that was a secessionist, I would support him.”

And then you’d have him killed, you fascist cretin. I’m guessing he isn’t going to find much support in the LGBT community.

Comments

  1. skinnercitycyclist says

    I guess I am surprised that he spells “secede” correctly, but not surprised that he writes it in ALL CAPS.

  2. raven says

    In addition to secession, Kilgore has previously advocated the death penalty for those who undergo abortions or commit adultery, along with otherwise strict adherence to so-called biblical law.

    If you run the numbers, under biblical law 99% of the population would end up dead under a pile of rocks.

    Gays, adulterers, atheists, sabbath breakers, disobedient children, blasphemers nonvirgin brides and there goes almost everyone in Texas.

    Oddly enough, abortion isn’t mentioned in the bible except in a few places where it is approved. Unless you define the slaughter of Canaanite babies by the Jews as post third trimester abortions and then it is OK for Those Other People.

  3. raven says

    A small part of me thinks Kilgore has a great idea. Let Texas Secede and slaughter each other. We can always resettle it after everyone is dead.

    Then I remember that Texas voted 44% for Obama and there is a determined effort to turn the state blue.

    Texas has the lowest voter turnout in the USA. If all the majority minorities, women, and young people ever turn out and vote, the theory is, the angry weird old white men are done with.

  4. alanb says

    So, an institution that taxes you at 15%-or-so effective tax rate is a bigger enemy than someone who wants to kill you? I’m not sure many people will agree with that.

  5. says

    ….and he said it’s possible that after secession, Texas would have to ‘break up even more’ — and some areas could choose to allow homosexuality or the ‘murder of babies.’

    Sure. Just like the CSA allowed its member-states abolition…

     
    alanb “So, an institution that taxes you at 15%-or-so effective tax rate is a bigger enemy than someone who wants to kill you?”
    Clearly you aren’t an asshole.

  6. cptdoom says

    Hey DC is stealing my money…

    Yes DC is taking my money and sending it to TX to pay for all the military installations. Have fun dealing with the TX economy when the government pulls hundreds of thousands of personnel and billions of dollars, not to mention all the border guards, after you become independent.

  7. sqlrob says

    @raven,#3:

    If you run the numbers, under biblical law 99% of the population would end up dead under a pile of rocks.

    That low?

  8. dingojack says

    99%? Surely it would 0%!
    You know: “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”.
    (I’m betting this genius hasn’t even heard of the guy who said that!)
    Dingo

  9. alanb says

    Modusoperandi:Clearly you aren’t an asshole.

    Thanks! That’s the nicest thing anyone’s said to me so far today. I’m not sure my ex would agree though.

  10. D. C. Sessions says

    You know: “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”.

    Big deal. They may not be able to cast stones, but they can forge them, chisel them, quarry them, …

  11. laurentweppe says

    Isn’t that the basic republican platform: vote for us because we openly hate you.

    No: it’s vote for us because we are capable and willing to hurt you even when not in charge so you’d better stay on our good side.

  12. otrame says

    Re #7

    My current favorite Youtuber (because ProfMTH has quit posting) Steve Shives was talking about the nut cases in western Maryland who want to secede. He suggested that we let them. For five years. Off the national power and water grids. Border guards. Visas and passports required. No assistance from the US. After 5 years hold a referendum and if the majority of the population still wants to be a separate country, let them. Assuming, of course, that anyone was still alive there.

  13. a_ray_in_dilbert_space says

    Well, my wife was born in TX, and she says the state motto is “If at first you don’t secede, try, try again.”

  14. Nick Gotts says

    Judges will flog more severely those convicted of transvestism.

    As for those convicted of masochism, they’ll really cop it!

  15. Scr... Archivist says

    By making his middle name all-caps, isn’t Kilgore creating a corporate shell entity at odds with his real, sovereign identity? And by doing that, isn’t he putting himself more deeply under the control of the admiralty laws that keep Americans slaves in their own country?

    Maybe he doesn’t know about this stuff because he missed that meeting of his local Posse Comitatus chapter.

    (For an explanation of this nonsense, see: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/sovereign-citizens-movement )

  16. Wylann says

    In addition to secession, Kilgore has previously advocated […] strict adherence to so-called biblical law.

    Quick, someone check and see if he is wearing mixed fibers, and follow him to make sure he doesn’t eat at Red Lobster.

  17. birgerjohansson says

    Wylann
    If he has any tattoos he will be in real trouble.*

    If he wants the old laws from the CSA we should check his DNA and look for traces of africans in his ancestry…

    *or “trubble” in wingnutese.

  18. birgerjohansson says

    raven, otrame,
    Solution: Bantustan states! Buy up the crappiest pieces of land cheaply and declare them the new Real America. Anyone who migrates there gets a tax break during the year before emigration. But once out they must go through the grotesquely convoluted American immigration process if they want back into the US of A.

    And we get extra job opportunities building fences keeping the undesirables away. No moochers welcome back here!
    (evil laughter)

  19. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    X Gov. Candidate: Help Me Secede So I Can Have You Killed

    Hmm..So what’s in it for him then?

    Generous offer there but y’know what? I think I’ll pass. No thanks.

  20. scienceavenger says

    …Kilgore has previously advocated the death penalty for those who undergo abortions or commit adultery…

    Thanks Ed, the scene of Newt Gingrich heading the LONG line of hypocrites to the guillotine gives me a warm feeling of Christmas cheer.

  21. says

    “Right now, lesbians and homosexuals and Christians may have differences with each other…”
    Wow, if he could unite lesbians AND homosexuals, he’d be king! Those 2 groups hate each other!!

  22. gertzedek says

    Oh, I 100% back this guy. Especially the bit where the US Armed Forces disabuse Texas of their notion of “seceding” about twenty minutes after they declare independence, making one of the largest Republican-leaning states a military district for the for the next ten or so years.

    I’ve even got a slogan: “Larry SECEDE Kilgore: because the first Reconstruction wasn’t enough”. Or ” Larry SECEDE Kilgore: this time we won’t have to share a district with Louisiana”.

  23. Ysidro says

    otrame,

    Letting crazies secede sounds good until you realize there are innocents who will get caught up in it. I certainly don’t want my parents, who live there, to get caught up in anything like that.

    Some of us have to remain patient and sane, for the sake of the rest.

  24. bushrat says

    It’s assholes like this that make me wish there really was a secret shadow government that went around assassinating ‘threats’ to their absolute power. Unfortunately, all we got is a bunch of geeks at the NSA reading 15 year old teenagers texts and knowing my porn history.

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