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Nov 04 2013

More Outlandish Rafael Cruz Statements Uncovered

As Sen. Ted Cruz continues to relentlessly build his political brand and position himself for a 2016 presidential run, his father is coming under increasing scrutiny for the many ignorant, bigoted and just plain bizarre statements he makes. As activists go through old footage of his sermons and talks, they’re finding all sorts of gems.

In April, Rafael Cruz, the father of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), spoke to the tea party of Hood County, which is southwest of Fort Worth, and made a bold declaration: The United States is a “Christian nation.” The septuagenarian businessman turned evangelical pastor did not choose to use the more inclusive formulation “Judeo-Christian nation.” Insisting that the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution “were signed on the knees of the framers” and were a “divine revelation from God,” he went on to say, “yet our president has the gall to tell us that this is not a Christian nation…The United States of America was formed to honor the word of God.” Seven months earlier, Rafael Cruz, speaking to the North Texas Tea Party on behalf of his son, who was then running for Senate, called President Barack Obama an “outright Marxist” who “seeks to destroy all concept of God,” and he urged the crowd to send Obama “back to Kenya.”…

Rafael Cruz’s inflammatory remarks and fundamentalist views have recently started to attract increased media attention. A few weeks ago, he sparked headlines when he told a gathering of Republicans in Colorado that Obama has vowed to “side with the Muslims,” that Obamacare mandates “suicide counseling” for the elderly, and that gay marriage is a plot to make “government your god.”

I’m curious to see where this leads. At the moment, when the only people he’s trying to appeal to are far-right conservatives, this kind of talk only helps Cruz. But if he were to win the primary in 2016, it would become a real issue.

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  1. 1
    dean

    Cruz’s father seems to be as bat-shit crazy as the loony Grand Rapids farmer who has similarly asinine comments spray-painted on his semi-trailers facing M6 (south of town)

  2. 2
    Doubting Thomas

    Well, well, well, so Cruz has his own Jeremiah Wright. And the link is even stronger.

  3. 3
    blf

    Serious question: Can someone please clew me in as to why the father‘s nuttiness is a priori an issue for the son (and I am fully aware the son is a nutter himself).

    I can think of reasons it would be. For instance, the son has explicitly avowed (supported) his father’s pronouncements.

    I can think of reasons it could be: For instance, the father says he has the full support of his son, and the son has not disagreed / clarified.

    I can also think of reasons it would not seem to be relevant: For instance, the son has explicitly disavowed his father’s opinions (and, especially in this case where the son himself is a nutter, the son’s record seems to support the claim he has a different option than his father).

    For instance, I myself — and I expect something analogous is also true for the other readers — haven’t always agreed (or continued to agree) with my father (or other family members), despite being exposed to said opinions “constantly” for two-ish decades growing up, and less-frequently thereafter. Yes, family bonds are an influence, but they also don’t a priori define / decide one’s own opinions.

    I concede I could be completely overthinking this, and / or missing something “obvious”.

    (Apologies if this is a derail.)

  4. 4
    raven

    (the US constiution) “divine revelation from God,”

    Rafael Cruz’s babbling is common for fundie xians. Mormons say the same thing. It’s not original and has all the intellectual content of the barking of a dog. And serves the same purpose.

    The US constitution was written by jesus and god.

    1. This explains why blacks were counted as 3/5 of a citizen, slavery was OK, and the majority of the population, women, couldn’t vote.

    2. It also explains why it has had to amended a few dozen times since it was written. It’s just another one of the xian gods incompetent projects.

    3. The fundie xians were saying something different 148 years ago. In 1860, their love for god’s perfect document was so great that they launched a bloody 5 year war to destroy the USA, the civil war.

    I suppose we better hope they don’t fall in love with the US constitution again. Another civil war with modern weapons and the dominant species in North America is going to be the cockroach.

  5. 5
    raven

    Serious question: Can someone please clew me in as to why the father‘s nuttiness is a priori an issue for the son (and I am fully aware the son is a nutter himself).

    1. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. It’s an empirical observation that kids frequently mirror their parents wackiness.

    Examples: Phyllis Schlafly and her kid, Andy the Conservapedia guy. Ron Paul and Rand Paul. Vox Day the sociopathic weirdo whose father is in prison for tax evasion and threatening to kill a federal judge, Kent Hovind and his demonic spawn, Eric and the other one, a stock market scammer.

    2. Of course it isn’t a 100% rule. Lots of kids reject their parents religion and ideology. I’m one.

    3. It’s stil relevant in this case. Rafael Cruz is a public figure. So is Ted Cruz.

    4. Ted Cruz does have every opportunity to state where he disagrees with his father. He isn’tgoing to do it because he agrees with it. He probably thinks his father is soft on Kenyan Moslem presidents.

    5. And whatever Rafael Cruz says isn’t just one piece of a puzzle. If he didn’t exist we would still know far more than we want to about Ted Cruz. He is a christofascist demagogue and proud of it.

  6. 6
    busterggi

    I expect, if you could get him to admit it, that Cruz the younger believes the same batshit craziness.

  7. 7
    timberwoof

    Ted Cruz says that “Socialism requires that government becomes your god.” I will grant him the assumption that government is not supposed to be a god. If it is not a god then it does not need prayers. Therefore there is no need for a Pledge of Allegiance.

  8. 8
    Michael Heath

    Rafael Cruz is no different than any other conservative Christian who reads, believes, and forwards conservative viral emails.

    If the media was doing their job they’d expose his dishonest lunacy, bigotry, and denialism. But far more importantly, they’d also frame their reports within the context that this rhetoric and the underlying beliefs are representative of a very large faction of conservative Christianity.

    And far important than exposing this is an attribute of a very large part of the population, the media would also report on the psychological defects that systemically cause people to believe and act out in this manner.

    Christian privilege is still winning when it comes to the lack of public exposure of their theologically and/or conservative population.

  9. 9
    matty1

    Insisting that the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution “were signed on the knees of the framers”

    Times were hard indeed that they couldn’t find a single table.

  10. 10
    colnago80

    As I have stated on many occasions on this blog, and others, writing Ted Cruz off as a deranged nutter is a very dangerous assumption. Cruz is both highly intelligent and a highly skilled demagogue. A dangerous combination. Think Frankenberger, Long, and McCarthy who were highly skilled demagogues but lacked Cruz’s intelligence. IMHO, Cruz has a plan which includes preventing any other teabaggers from getting into the 2016 presidential race, leaving him as their candidate of choice, rather then du jour. If Christie and, say, Jeb Bush both get into the race as non-teabaggers, they could split whatever non-insane Rethuglican vote there is, allowing Cruz to win with far less then a majority.

    Just as a matter of history, those of us who were around at the time should call to the attention of readers here who were not the 1972 Democratic nomination race. Here, for a crucial time period, the two moderate Democrats, Muskie and Humphrey were both in the race and divided the non-left wing vote between them, leaving George McGovern with that vote that was sufficient to win several primaries with far less then 1/2 the vote (remember, back then, it was winner take all). McGovern won the nomination and went on to get his ass handed to him in November of that year, losing every state except his native South Dakota and DC.

  11. 11
    colnago80

    Re Michael Heath @ #8

    If the media was doing their job they’d expose his dishonest lunacy, bigotry, and denialism.

    Well the three Rethuglican candidates for statewide office in Virginia, Cuccinelli, Jackson, and Obershain are as nutty as Cruz but the media in these parts has hardly spent much time pointed out their insanity. They have operated in a he said she said mode, criticizing their Democratic opponents for having the temerity to point it out via attack ads.

  12. 12
    typecaster

    This explains why blacks were counted as 3/5 of a citizen

    I keep seeing this, and it’s really not true, at least not the way many people seem to think it is. It was 3/5 of all slaves (who were all black, but not all blacks were slaves) who were counted for purposes of determining the number of representatives the slaveholding states would get in Congress. The slaveholders would have been happy to count slaves twice, while abolitionists thought they shouldn’t be counted at all. This doesn’t mean that slaveholders thought slaves had twice the worth of a citizen.

  13. 13
    Bronze Dog

    It’s kind of hard to see these statements as outlandish when you’ve heard them repeated so many times by so many wingnuts. To be fair, I’ve got sampling bias from reading blogs that expose this sort of thing.

    They’re still clearly lies, but they’re everyday lies, and that’s the scary part.

  14. 14
    Crimson Clupeidae

    blf:

    Serious question: Can someone please clew me in as to why the father‘s nuttiness is a priori an issue for the son (and I am fully aware the son is a nutter himself).

    I’m going to disagree with most of raven’s reasons, especially item 1. I would say that, like Rev. Wright and Obama, it wouldn’t matter at all, if Cruz’s father (like Wright) weren’t actually politicking for his son.

    However, many of these references are given at Teaparty rallies, not in the sunday morning sermons. These are specifically political events which Cruz the younger did not attend, but sent his father as a proxy. Therefore, we have to assume that his father actually is a proxy in these situations.

  15. 15
    vmanis1

    To clarify colnago’s reference to `Frankenberger’, many suppose that he’s referring to Adolf Hitler, whom some anti-Semites still claim was descended from a (likely-imaginary) Jew named Leopold Frankenberger. The only person who has promulgated this theory was the Nazi Hans Frank, prior to his execution for war crimes.

    Of course, colnago is not referring to Hitler, but to Herkimer Frankenberger, the governor of the great state of East Virginia from 1932 to 1928. Herkimer was famous for his speech condemning the closure of the peanut butter factory in Springfield, East Virginia, throwing several thousand people out of work. His speeches would start softly and calmly, and elevate in passion throughout, ending with his signature phrase, a spittle-inflected scream in which he tells the company, `You shall not crucify us on a cross of peanut butter!’.

    It is sometimes thought that the CIA had Herkimer Frankenberger killed (somewhat anachronistically). In fact, Frankenberger was caught in bed with both a live boy AND a dead girl, as well as a goat, a camel, and a somewhat large bucket of decaying fish. The shame of this not only caused Frankenberger’s death, supposedly of a heart attack, but in fact because of a large bullet placed in his body at high speed by the owner of the dead fish. The shame of these events caused East Virginia to vanish not only from our history books, but also from maps. Where East Virginia once stood, there is nothing but a wasteland today, occasionally traversed by feral animals and by hedge fund traders.

    Thanks, colnago80, for reminding us of this long-forgotten moment in American history.

  16. 16
    colnago80

    Re vmanis1 @ #15

    vmanis1 is making the entirely unwarranted assumption that Leopold Frankenberger was Jewish. Was Alfred Rosenberg Jewish? Hardly. As I carefully explained in a comment on a previous post, names like Frankenberger or Rosenberg or Adler in the USA are, indeed, probably Jewish, or at least of that descent. Not so in Germany and Austria.

  17. 17
    Area Man

    Anyone who seems to think that Ted Cruz is really just a performance artist who is taking advantage of the rubes with his high intelligence and Ivy League education needs to account for this. This is the father he grew up with, and aside from his continued affiliation with him, he is reputed to have joined the cult of right-wing nuttiness at a young age through various organizations and mentors. I have yet to see a single indicator that Cruz is anything but a true believer.

  18. 18
    blf

    Wylann@14, Thanks! Yer comment “Cruz’s father …[is] actually politicking for his son”, added to ravaen@5, “Ted Cruz does have every opportunity to state where he disagrees with his father”, could indeed be the answer to my question, being a variant of my first speculation @3, “the son has explicitly avowed (supported) his father’s pronouncements”. The issue now is citation needed (sorry to be so pedantic!).

  19. 19
    Mark Chandler

    Most important. Let’s never refer to Cruz as a Presidential candidate without commenting that he cannot legally run for President. You cannot claim the Constitution while trying to violate it.

  20. 20
    vmanis1

    @colnago80: I make no assumptions. Hans Frank claimed Hitler’s descent from the Frankenberger family of Linz, who appeared in the town register as Jewish (although there was no record of a Leopold); since Frank was the only person who claimed this ancestry, I’m assuming that one has to consider the whole claim, not just pieces of it, in assessing the claim.

    In fact, there are four claimed possibilities for Hitler’s grandfather, with surnames Frankenberger, Hiedler, Nepomuk, and Schicklgruber (in alphabetical order). Hitler’s father amended his record of birth to state that Hiedler—later changed to Hitler—was the father. In the absence of contrary evidence, we have to accept that, though William Shirer has a bit of fun imagining crowds chanting `Heil Schicklgruber’.

    colnago, you can call Hitler whatever you want, even Barry Soetero; but your continued use of `Frankenberger’ puts you in the same category as Orly Taitz. I shall continue making fun of `Frankenberger’ whenever I see you using it.

  21. 21
    birgerjohansson

    Ted Cruz the Republican candidate for 2016…and not distancing himself from his father’s rants….YES! YES! PLEEEEEASE!

  22. 22
    colnago80

    Re vmanis1 @ #20

    Being that Alois mother was one Maria Schickelgruber, it is doubtful that his biological father was also named Schickelgruber.

    We don’t know who Alois biological father was as, after the Anschluss in 1938, Adolf had all the records in his home town destroyed. All we know is that Alois’ birth certificate named no father and that he was christened Schickelgruber.

    colnago, you can call Hitler whatever you want, even Barry Soetero; but your continued use of `Frankenberger’ puts you in the same category as Orly Taitz. I shall continue making fun of `Frankenberger’ whenever I see you using it.

    Hey, take your best shot.

  23. 23
    tubi

    Just as I dismiss out of hand Michele Bachmann for using “Democrat” as an adjective, I do the same for those who insist on saying things like “Rethuglican.”

    In case anyone cares.

  24. 24
    colnago80

    Darksyde posted a video on his site depicting Rafael Cruz denouncing evolution as Communist propaganda. Somebody should ask Cruz fils what his thinks about that.

    http://goo.gl/npNpso

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