Beck Lies About Hitler at Values Voters Summit


Glenn Beck spoke at the Values Voters Summit and, predictably, either displayed his rank ignorance or lied through his teeth. In his usual melodramatic fashion, he brought with him symbols used by the Nazis to mark those who were targeted for concentration camps, implying, of course, that Obama was going to do the same thing to Christians.

He told them that he had with him a purple triangle and he asked if anyone knew who was marked with that symbol. No one did, so he told them:

“Purple — Bible scholar. If you knew anything about the Bible, you were an enemy of the state. Why? Why? Because the truth shall set you free, not work. The truth shall set you free.”

All nonsense. The purple triangle was used not for those who “knew anything about the Bible” but for Jehovah’s Witnesses. Hitler considered them a threat because they refused to salute the flag or pledge allegiance to the state. But guess what? At the very same time, the good Christian folks in the United States were persecuting Jehovah’s Witnesses for the very same thing. In 1940, the Supreme Court upheld a law that forced Jehovah’s Witnesses to salute the flag and recite the pledge of allegiance (thankfully they came to their senses 3 years later and overturned that ruling).

All of this is just Beck pushing his favorite conspiracy theory, that Christians will at any moment be rounded up and thrown into concentration camps. Never mind that they hold nearly all the power in the country.

Comments

  1. raven says

    Beck doesn’t even try to make his lies sound plausible.

    Hitler was a Catholic.

    His millions of willing followers were all Catholics and Lutherans.

    The SS, responsible for administering and carry out the Holocaust, prohibited atheists from joining. They only trusted xians to carry out mass murder on unarmed civilians.

  2. Doug Little says

    The SS, responsible for administering and carry out the Holocaust, prohibited atheists from joining. They only trusted xians to carry out mass murder on unarmed civilians.

    And here I was thinking it was the gays.

  3. raven says

    Ideology of the SS – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Ideology_of_the_SS‎

    Atheism was banned within the SS with all SS men being required to list themselves … Though SS membership was open to all who met Himmler’s eugenic and …

    That the SS banned atheists says a lot about xianity, none of it good.

    The Holocaust has its deep roots in 2,000 years of xian anti-semitism.

  4. kantalope says

    If only there was a way to identify religious people in this country…oh, yeah – you could ask them or they will tell you whether you want to hear it or not.

  5. Doug Little says

    Sorry raven I wasn’t doubting your comment, I was taking a shot at the whole Scott Lively Pink Swastika bullshit.

  6. raven says

    Sorry raven I wasn’t doubting your comment, …

    I didn’t think you were.

    It’s just astonishing how wrong the xians are about the Holocaust and the Nazis.

    Hitler mentions god and jesus 33 times in Mein Kampf. Darwin isn’t mentioned at all.

  7. cptdoom says

    Well, if Obama really were rounding up Christians to put into camps, Beck wouldn’t have to worry…he’s a Mormon (bada-bing!).

  8. busterggi says

    Wow, Beck has promoted JW’s to be real Christians right alongside their Mormon heretic brothers.

  9. matty1 says

    When I read the headline I was hoping for a story about how Beck claimed Hitler was in the audience for his talk.

  10. bushrat says

    I’m completely disappointed. I came here expecting a chalkboard filled with of chains circles, but all I got was a chalkboard with writing on it. How does Beck expect any of his fans to understand that? Most of them can only count past 10 if they take their shoes off.

  11. coragyps says

    It is true, though, that German JW’s referred to themselves as Bibelforscher or “bible researchers” back in those days. This does make Beck full of a milligram less shit than usual, but falls short of excusing his fact-checking. (Can one excuse something that does not exist?)

  12. says

    That the SS banned atheists says a lot about xianity, none of it good.

    I suspect that their ban on atheists had less to do with religion per se and more to do with the pursuit of purity and conformity. Atheists then as now were regarded as deviants and rabble-rousers.

    But it clearly puts lie to the claim that the Nazis were atheist or anti-Christian.

  13. coragyps says

    Oh, dammit, Modus, you’re right!! I remember that now! Michelle Bachmann was the love interest!

  14. iangould says

    “The SS, responsible for administering and carry out the Holocaust, prohibited atheists from joining. They only trusted xians to carry out mass murder on unarmed civilians.”

    You’re not entirely correct. There was a primarily-Muslim Albanian SS unit.

  15. Ichthyic says

    I’m starting to wonder if believing what Beck says SHOULD be a marker for citizens that need special attention.

    is this kind of delusion covered under the ACA?

  16. greg1466 says

    Hmm, the fascists considered people who wouldn’t salute the flag or pledge allegiance to the state a threat. Now who does that remind me of?

  17. Doug Little says

    is this kind of delusion covered under the ACA?

    I don’t know I would hope so. What I’ve found though is that even relatively good health insurance (this is just anecdotal) has fuck all coverage for mental health issues. You end up paying a lot out of pocket.

  18. raven says

    I realise you are mocking Beck’s old hobbyhorse, but look up: Ernst Röhm (head of Hitler’s SA, Sturmabteilung).

    Ernst Rohm was executed by the Nazis during a purge in the 30’s..

    The SA was disbanded after the Night of the Long Knives, IIRC.

    Neither had anything to do with the camps or Holocaust.

  19. longstreet63 says

    Never mind that they hold nearly all the power in the country.

    See, that word ‘nearly’ is the horrific holocaust-equivalent word these folks hope to eradicate.
    Freedom is a zero sum game for them. Freedom is the freedom to take freedom from others. If they can’t destroy someone they despise (or a randomly selected other),they aren’t truly free.

    The winner is the one with the most money when Jesus comes back. Apparently. I’m not sure what Bible verse that is.

  20. says

    @ raven

    The SA were a very large group of fascist bullyboys, that were solidly anti-Jewish. There was never anything to like about them. Ernst Röhm was murdered because of his huge political clout and the potential threat he posed to the old guard in the army. He also took the “ZI” part (sozialismus – socialism) seriously, to the chagrin of moneyed interests. The evidence against him was trumped up by the rest of Hitler’s cabal. (SA was only disbanded after the war, but the cabal favoured the SS, so they became far less relevant after Röhm’s murder.)

    That he, and his top officers were gay is a simple matter of historical record. It is rather incidental and says nothing about gay people in general. All humans are capable of both good and bad things.

    The point is more that Beck, as a rabid bigot, does not see it in such a way. From his perspective, he passes up the opportunity to twist such into an anti-gay tirade. Instead, he is left with making up lies about atheists that have absolutely nothing at all to do with historical realities. Glenn Beck has an absolute fixation with Nazi-ism (“Nazi Tourettes” as Lewis Black calls it.), yet it appears he knows very little about their history and just makes shit up.

  21. says

    Ed:

    Similar to your Fischer Award, you should have a “Glennie” for the most egregiously mendacious statement made by someone in media.

    Conversely you could have someone at FTB start a blog called “BekLies”, they’d never lack for material to work with.

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