I Really, Really Dislike S.E. Cupp

S.E. Cupp is like nails on a blackboard to me and this video, made to promote CNN’s relaunch of Crossfire, demonstrates why perfectly. In it, she explains why she can be both a conservative and an atheist and sounds utterly vapid doing so. Especially inane statements like this:

I know that it strikes a lot of people as odd that I could be both conservative and an atheist. To me it never seemed like a contradiction. Like most believers, I think murder’s pretty terrible.

Yeah, unlike liberals and other atheists, who think murder is ripping good fun. Seriously, who takes this staggering mediocrity seriously?

Like most believers, I agree with pretty much all of the ten commandments.

Really? Which ones do you agree with, other than the ones that everyone agrees with, like murder and theft? Do you agree with the first several, which are purely religious commands? Do you, as an atheist, believe that we should keep the sabbath holy? Or did you really just mean “I agree with a few of them that everyone else agrees with too”? If so, why didn’t you just say that?

She spends most of the rest of it trying to convince people that she’s one of the good atheists, not one that is “militant, hostile, confrontational [or] dismissive” because she “envies” religious people. Sorry, I call bullshit. Remember, this is the same person who said a year ago that she would never vote for an atheist because atheists think religious people are crazy and don’t have anything to restrain their actions:

And you know what? I would never vote for an atheist president. Ever… Because I do not think that someone who represents 5 to 10 percent of the population should be representing and thinking that everyone else in the world is crazy, but me…

I like that there is a check, OK? That there‘s a person in the office that doesn’t think he’s bigger than the state… I like religion being a check and knowing that my president goes home every night addressing someone above him and not thinking all the power resides right here… Atheists don’t have that.

Honestly, I don’t believe she’s an atheist, even a self-loathing one. I think she likes to pretend that she is because it gets her attention. It makes her stand out the way a black conservative stands out and gets far more attention than they deserve because of it. She’s making herself a token, on purpose. And when the attention runs out, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she has a sudden “conversion,” which will make her the darling of the Christian right as an example of a “famous atheist” who discovered the truth of God, proving that all atheists are wrong.

37 comments on this post.
  1. Who Knows?:

    I think she’s trying too hard.

  2. grizzle:

    She also once cited a Town Hall article on The Cycle as proof that Fortune Magazine’s piece on the ‘Fast and Furious’ thing had been debunked…

  3. Artor:

    I’m inclined to think that Cupp is not an atheist, but is just non-denominationally religious. She seems to have internalized the American conservative Xian culture, but doesn’t go to church. By many Xian’s standards, this counts as “atheist,” even if she does make statements such as, “Like most believers, I agree with pretty much all of the ten commandments.” She’s taken this label and run with it, capitalizing on being the token “atheist” who can be counted on to carry water for the dominionist Xians who provide her paycheck. I also suspect that her oh-so-smart glasses are not for any prescription; I think she presents an entirely false face to hide the fact that she is vapid, uninformed, and not particularly intelligent.

  4. zero6ix:

    I like that there is a check, OK? That there‘s a person in the office that doesn’t think he’s bigger than the state… I like religion being a check and knowing that my president goes home every night addressing someone above him and not thinking all the power resides right here… Atheists don’t have that.

    Those damned atheists! Thinking they’re so awesome. Filthy savages…err, which I happen to be. Which means that, er, I actually…I’m a lady conservative atheist! Lookit me! DIVERISTY!

  5. Modusoperandi:

    But she’s got glasses. That means she’s smart. Do you have glasses? I rest my case.

  6. zero6ix:

    I do have glasses! COUNTERPOINT! You just need to come from a place of envy and gratitude to appreciate my lack of 20/20 vision.

  7. maudell:

    Isn’t this exactly why she became famous, she wrote some sort of book about how she’s an atheist who really really really wants to be Christian but she just can’t?

    If I remember well, it was the classic shocking punditry equation. Conservative crackpot + super sexy + Bill Maher + showing off some thighs to Greg Gutfeld = skilled conservative political analyst.

    Oh. And ‘Crossfire’? *Sobbing*

    [To be clear, I have nothing against sexy women. I dislike the hypocrisy of pin-ups pushing for puritan legislation though, and I am annoyed that the media chooses sexy incompetent women over competent ones. It also makes things hard for attractive *and* competent and intelligent women, who are assumed to be dunces by many. Rant.]

  8. godlesspanther:

    I totally agree — the conservative self-loathing atheist shtick is just a gimmick. When that gig runs dry she has a profound conversion experience.

  9. sc_770d159609e0f8deaa72849e3731a29d:

    Like most believers, I think murder’s pretty terrible.

    Murder is pretty terrible by definition- it’s unlawfully killing someone. However, many believers think that there’s nothing terrible about lawfully killing someone like a heretic or an unbeliever- indeed, that it’s rather admirable.

  10. cjcolucci:

    My wife and I often wonder where the conservabimboes who turn up on Bill Maher’s show come from and how they get on so frequently. The best explanation either of us could come up with goes a long way toward explaining Maher’s nearly permanent smirk.

  11. =8)-DX:

    Not to derail the direction of the thread here, but surely a pretend-conversion for more attention or book deals or whatever would be exactly the kind of thing on of us gol’ darn ten-commandments-hating atheists would do.. If S.E. Cupp has a miracle conversion, I say we should take it as direct unambiguous proof that she’s an atheist!

  12. Chiroptera:

    I would never vote for an atheist president. Ever… Because I do not think that someone who represents 5 to 10 percent of the population should be representing and thinking that everyone else in the world is crazy, but me…

    That’s pretty much why I would rarely, if ever, vote for a Republican. Most of them today seem to only represent the older, angry white male part of the population and thinks that everyone else is the enemy.

  13. doublereed:

    She’s clearly a shill.

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  15. DaveL:

    Like most believers, I agree with pretty much all of the ten commandments.

    That’s because, like most believers, she doesn’t know what they are.

  16. d.c.wilson:

    I like religion being a check and knowing that my president goes home every night addressing someone above him and not thinking all the power resides right here…

    And dopey me, I thought under our Constitution that was the people.

    Like most believers, I think murder’s pretty terrible.

    But only “pretty terrible.” It’s not a truly super terrible thing like becoming a liberal.

    Personally, I think the person who should worry the most about this new Crossfire is Callista. She’s getting up there in Newt’s wife years and he’s probably thinking it’s time to trade in for a younger model. If Cupp plays her cards right, she could be the next future ex-Mrs. Gingrich before 2016. Then they could announce his divorce, their engagement, her “sudden” conversation, and his presidential candidacy all at the same presser.

  17. Moggie:

    No True Atheist?

    She could quite easily be a genuine atheist: a dishonest one, prepared to bullshit for money. It’s probably a lucrative niche.

  18. screechymonkey:

    I have no reason to doubt that she’s an atheist. I think there’s plenty of atheists who are prominent in the Republican party and/or the conservative media, it’s just that most of them are in the closet.

    But I do agree that a “conversion” is likely if her career starts to falter.

  19. David Marjanović:

    Then they could announce his divorce, their engagement, her “sudden” conversation, and his presidential candidacy all at the same presser.

    …which would be bad for them, because the more Least Publishable Units the media bring about them, they longer they stay present in the public’s awareness!

  20. Curt Cameron:

    modusoperandi wrote:

    But she’s got glasses. That means she’s smart. Do you have glasses? I rest my case.

    They don’t even look like real (necessary) glasses to me, which goes with the whole schtick. It reminds me porn character who’s the nerdy girl with glasses, then she takes them off and lets down her hair. IOW, the glasses look like a prop for the character she’s playing.

  21. eric:

    I could care less whether she really is or isn’t. It’s crap logic and she’s wrong about atheists being able to represent theists (just as theists can represent atheists). She’d still be wrong if she found God. She’d still be wrong on if she had a rod. She’ll be wrong on CNN. She’d still be wrong on Fox and Friends. :)

    I need to spend less time with my 2-year old… :)

  22. busterggi:

    In a year or two she’ll also announce she believes in homeopathy and power bracelets. Sincerely of course.

  23. dshetty:

    Well mathematics is a liberal conspiracy anyway so agreeing with 2 commandments is the same as agreeing with 10.

  24. exdrone:

    Sippy Cup:

    I like that there is a check, OK? That there‘s a person in the office that doesn’t think he’s bigger than the state… I like religion being a check and knowing that my president goes home every night addressing someone above him and not thinking all the power resides right here

    I’m trying to understand which religious safeguard she finds the most reassuring – the violent foundational basis of Judeo-Christianity, the tendency of ideological belief to short-circuit moral reasoning, the doctrinaire intolerance of Christian fundamentalism, or the possibility of zealous yielding to perceived divine instruction?

  25. skemono:

    agreeing with 2 commandments is the same as agreeing with 10.

    Damn you, binary!

  26. Area Man:

    I like that there is a check, OK?…I like religion being a check and knowing that my president goes home every night addressing someone above him and not thinking all the power resides right here…

    You mean like our last hyper-religious president, who was an arrogant, self-assured prick who believed his decision-making was divinely inspired? Yeah, can’t have any atheists in there thinking that their polices are the product of a fallible human mind.

  27. Area Man:

    I think there’s plenty of atheists who are prominent in the Republican party and/or the conservative media, it’s just that most of them are in the closet.

    There’s a reason why most atheists lean to the left or are libertarians. Religion has always been a tool of conservatism, a means of reinforcing traditional mores and deference to authority. A lot of people come into atheism because they reject that.

    If Cupp really is an atheist, she’s probably experiencing a great deal of cognitive dissonance, which how we get what we see here: completely twisted rationales for why we need religion even if it’s false.

  28. Scientismist:

    I like religion being a check and knowing that my president goes home every night addressing someone above him and not thinking all the power resides right here… Atheists don’t have that.

    OK, I think I understand.. She’s an atheist, and a conservative. So as an atheist, she does not believe that a god exists; but as a conservative she feels better knowing that her president does. She likes the idea of a president who feels inadequate enough to consult what she knows to be a non-existent advisory power, but who will then exercise the extraordinary power of that office, confident that all responsibility ultimately rests not with the president, but with that mythical power. Her ideal president is one who suffers from a delusion that she does not share.

    Makes perfect sense.. I guess.. if your goal is to make government dysfunctional enough drown in a bathtub. Or something.

  29. JeffreyD:

    Two brain cells, one Cupp.

  30. congenital cynic:

    It’s so disappointing every time she opens her mouth. I’ve seen her on Bill Maher’s show a few times and once or twice she even talked sense, but most of the time it’s some inane blather that just makes her look like an idiot. Which is sad.

    On the totally politically incorrect side, even though I couldn’t stand to have a conversation with her because of her addled brain, I think she’s a very (physically) attractive woman. In the vernacular, hot. Which is why she gets invited to appear on the shows she’s on. They sure as hell don’t invite her for her brains. Maddow has the brains. Love that woman.

  31. timgueguen:

    There are more than a few people out there who believe things like that, that they personally are too smart and moral to need religion, but that most of the rest of the world needs fear of God to keep them in check. It’s a variation on the “I’d be an ax murderer without God!” idea you sometimes see from believers.

  32. DaveL:

    @30 – Thinking that regarding the common masses is elitist and condescending, but thinking that regarding the President of the United States is just beyond bizarre.

  33. dogmeat:

    Cupp is a perfect example of someone I found attractive until she spoke. The more she speaks, the less attractive she becomes. At this point, between her and a bog mummy, I’d go with the bog mummy. More stimulating conversation.

  34. democommie:

    S.E. Cupp self-identifies as “hyper educated”, I’ll go with the “hype” part.

    She’s not THAT hot. Rachel Maddow is smart, that’s a whole different kind of hot.

  35. francesc:

    @26
    “she’s probably experiencing a great deal of cognitive dissonance, which how we get what we see here: completely twisted rationales for why we need religion even if it’s false.”
    Like most believers?
    If it quacks like a duck…

  36. lofgren:

    Forget whether or not she’s a “real” atheist. Based on this clip I’m not even convinced she knows what an atheist is.

  37. tuibguy:

    Seems to me that the big problem that the Founders had with the Monarchy was the idea that monarchs were appointed by God, and were held only responsible to God with the “Divine Right of Kings” to do whatever the hell they wanted and say that “God demands it, God commands it, and it is up to Me to carry it out.” So, the Spanish justified their war with England because of its heresy, Elizabeth inspired her troops and her sailors with the speech about serving England’s God; and it was just a big mess trying to figure out who the Hell God was backing.

    So, I guess a President who believes that God commands war may be humble before God, but damned arrogant when carrying out God’s Commands. To, say, invade Iraq, or something similar.

    I would rather have an atheist president responsible to the Constitution and whose “checks” aren’t religious but a legislature and a judiciary.

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