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Maine Candidate Uses Racial Slur of Obama

David Marsters, a conservative candidate for selectman in the city of Sabattus, Maine, put a picture on his Facebook page of Obama along with the caption “Shoot the nigger” and earned a visit from the Secret Service because of it. But it wasn’t a threat, he says, and it’s all okay because he’s mad.

“(The Secret Service) didn’t see no pictures of Obama with bullet holes in his head,” Marsters told the Daily News. “It’s not a threatening statement, in my opinion. People take it out of context as a threat.”

“I didn’t say I was going to shoot the president, or kill — Shoot the ni**er. Shoot the ni**er. — that’s what I said,” he continued. “I’m pissed off at the system, OK? We’re about to lose our benefits because of this asshole.”

Marsters has convinced himself that the Affordable Care Act — also known as “Obamacare” — is going to take away his ill wife’s spousal benefits. In an interview with Daily News reporter Douglas Mcintire, the retired police officer said perhaps he should have chosen his words more carefully, but that he believes the remark was not racist because he insists that he would have said the same thing about former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) had he been elected president.

“I would say, ‘Shoot the ni**er,’ because white people are ni**ers, too,” he insisted, claiming that in his native Massachusetts, the racially charged epithet is applied equally to whites and African-Americans.

But I’m sure he has a lot of black friends. I bet he even lets them use his bathroom.

Comments

  1. Michael Heath says

    One surprise for me since the Spring of 2008 when Barack Obama became the leading candidate for president and then won, is how it flushed out the sheer number of conservatives I personally know that are racists. People I never I suspected of such prior to 2008 but since then, openly, clearly, and repeatedly demonstrate they’re racists. Some of these people are not religious zealots though they’re religious, where their conservatism was modestly held in the past yet now has an overtly hardened, hateful, bigoted edge.

    Has a black president merely revealed their racism and or have they become more bigoted towards blacks and others? I think both, especially with the ascendancy of so-called Fox News. That channel provides safety in numbers which probably give these people the idea that what they believe but kept to themselves is now a credible enough position to voice in public. But I also think that channel and other media content, especially viral conservative emails, has caused these authoritarians to become far worse than they were.

    I’ve been thinking of how to respond to their racist comments when I note racist comments where their immediate response is to claim they aren’t racists in spite of holding racist positions and using racist rhetoric. How do I provide an example beyond the one where they just demonstrated their racism? I’ve been toying with the idea of arguing that only racists would actually consider regularly watch Fox News, unless they’re monitoring the channel as an enemy of American ideals – which Fox demonstrably is. That Fox’s content is sickening to those of us who are demonstrably not bigots.

  2. otrame says

    @3 Oh, yeah? Tell me, where do you live that is so much more civilized than the U.S.? Where do you live where there is no racism.

    I have plenty to complain about in the U.S. and I think other countries handle many social issues better than we do, but I have yet to hear of a place where racism is not a foundational part of how their society works, so tell me, grumpyoldfart, where is this bastion of civilization that you compare to the U.S.?

  3. DonDueed says

    I’ve lived in Massachusetts for almost 40 years (though I didn’t grow up here). I have never heard anyone use the N-word to refer to white people. For that matter, I can’t recall anyone using it to refer to black people either, except ironically or in a quote.

    I wonder what little scumhole this guy hails from.

  4. says

    See? This is the kind of feedback advertisers crave, to see if their ad is a hit. Think of this as a new Cabbage Patch Kids riots.
    This shows that the Right’s messaging on Obamacare (and Obama in general) works perfectly with its intended audience. It worked so well that it spooked a scared old person who is running for public office to the point that he advocated in public murdering the president of the United States. I mean, they’ve got him so fanatical, so committed, so terrified that he didn’t even hide behind a dogwhistle (and not in Alabama, but in Maine).
    That’s the power of messaging.

    Kind of scary, now that I think about it. It would be nice if they used their power for good instead of evil. Still, it flushed out another jerk to where we can see him, so in some vague way it probably qualifies as some minor kind of public service.

  5. Alverant says

    “I would say, ‘Shoot the ni**er,’ because white people are ni**ers, too,”
    First it’s still a threat to shoot a person. Calling them dehumanizing names doesn’t change that fact. Second he probably groups anyone who vote for Obama under that label too. Third, if he saw a facebook photo of him with a target on his head and the caption “Shoot the moron” he’d be upset too and not buy that “I was mad” excuse.

  6. A. Noyd says

    Even if this dumbass does call white people the n-word, that doesn’t make it not racist. It’s just like how you can’t say “cunt” isn’t sexist because some people call men that.

    And, alas, I can’t tell if he’s exceedingly stupid because no one will believe his excuse for how it’s not a threat or if he’s actually not all that stupid because I’m too optimistic and plenty of people will buy it.

  7. Happiestsadist, opener of the Crack of Doom says

    I’m amazed people are so shocked to learn that folks up North are as racist as Southerners. (Note: I’m Canadian, and from New Brunswick. I know Maine well enough, as a result.)

    Also, the only times I’ve ever heard the n-word in relation to white people is in reference to white kids who like hip-hop culture too much for their elders/peers. So, uh.

  8. says

    “I’ve been thinking of how to respond to their racist comments when I note racist comments where their immediate response is to claim they aren’t racists in spite of holding racist positions and using racist rhetoric.”

    Well, Michael, FIRST, you tell them that they’re racists. Then when they pull out the justification/excuse that you mention–THEN you tell them that they’re also delusional or fucking liars, perhaps both.

    “Also, the only times I’ve ever heard the n-word in relation to white people is in reference to white kids who like hip-hop culture too much for their elders/peers. So, uh.”

    “Whiggers” I’ve heard, but not whites being called, “nigger”.

    I lived in the area of MA, north of Boston, and southern NH for over 30 years–plenty of racists there, particularly in places like South Boston, Dorchester and Worcester, MA as well as Manchester, NH.

  9. machintelligence says

    It worked so well that it spooked a scared old person who is running for public office

    I think you have it right about the age of this fellow. Attitudes that were drilled into you as a child are the most persistent, and I think a large number of these folks will carry them to their graves.

    FIRST, you tell them that they’re racists. Then when they pull out the justification/excuse that you mention–THEN you tell them that they’re also delusional or fucking liars, perhaps both.

    Or else use the good old duck analogy: If it walks, flies, swims and quacks like a duck, I’m calling it a duck.

  10. Scott Hanley says

    “I’m pissed off at the system, OK? We’re about to lose our benefits because of this asshole.”

    Aha, there it is – we need to quit giving money to Those People so that there will be enough for Us. That’s the real credo of the Tea Party. I hear it every time my extended family gets together.

    It’s pissed me off for some time now. I can’t listen to a serious political program, such as the Diane Rehm Show, where the commentators aren’t taking conservatives at face value on their claims of fiscal concern, just going along with the notion that they’re really concerned with the state of the Treasury first and foremost. They’re not, not a bit, not when the money is flowing their direction – where was the Tea Party when Bush expanded Medicare without a dime to pay for it? “Fiscal responsibility” doesn’t mean a thing more or less than “Make sure I get paid, only people like me and no one else.”

  11. Akira MacKenzie says

    grumpyoldfart @ 3

    At the rate we’re going, our species will be extinct within a couple of hundred years, and it will be largely be America’s fault.

    Therefore, I invite the rest of the civillized nations of the world to put the United States out of your misery.

  12. D. C. Sessions says

    @2, have the “what they did” conversation, not the “what they are” conversation.

    In other words, “racist is as racist does.”

  13. dickspringer says

    As a fellow Mainer I hear a lot more about this guy than most people from away. He has now been fired from all his jobs ans has been denounced by almost everybody except our Governor LePage, who recently said Obama hates white people and then said that he didn’t say that is spite of the fact that there were a number of prominent Republican witnesses who heard him say it.

    This guy also wants a law requiring everybody in his town to have a gun. What is most disturbing about him is that he is a retired cop. Unfortunately, not surprising.

  14. Pen says

    There seem to be a few people around here who walk, swim,fly and quack like xenophobes. I’m going to call them irrelevant shit-stirrers.

  15. says

    A middle-class black woman once told me that ghetto-trash lowlifes were ni**ers, and that’s who it referred to — in other words, not a name for all African-Americans, only the bad ones. Here’s an opportunity for someone like this candidate to crow that an actual black person says that ni**er means “lowlife” not “black” so they’re totally not racist! Um, no. Just because that woman co-opted racism in the service of her class prejudices doesn’t mean it wasn’t racism.

  16. coffeehound says

    “I would say, ‘Shoot the ni**er,’ because white people are ni**ers, too,”

    Oh, sure, I buy that; as an example, think of all those times you’ve heard that term reference a white person in movies, news, politics, around town,etc etc………………
    uhhhhhhhhhhhh………..
    Yeah, I’m going to have to get back to you on this one..
    @3,

    A couple more hundred years – you Americans will get the hang of civilization eventually

    Glad to know there’s a place where racism, hatred, injustice and intolerance have been abolished.
    No doubt there are unicorns dancing in the streets farting rainbow glitter to greet you as you arise to the chorus of angels.
    Might not be worth the price of living with smug, sanctimonious, jackwads, though.

  17. Infophile says

    @2 Michael Heath: I’m going to disagree with others here. Don’t call people racists – the bar is impossibly high to prove that someone is a racist. In their mind, a racism is always someone more bigoted than them, and you’ll never convince them they are one. Instead, call specific actions racist. If you really want to convince them, try not to engage in a way that might make them defensive. For instance, say, “Quick tip, for future reference, that comes off as racist.”

  18. Chris Adam-Connor says

    @21

    That’s the exact opposite of what you should do. In fact, what you suggest *is the exact reason racists will never accept themselves as racist*

    Racism has been defined as actions, now. Burn a cross in someones front lawn? Racist. Lynch someone? Racist?

    But the beliefs, the passive or direct discrimination and everything in between is no racist, because they don’t perform explicitly racist actions. Once you start trying to pretend it’s actions, rather than beliefs, that are racist like the worst people do, you hit this exact result.

    Using the N-word is racist? Just stop using it and replace it with “Wel-fare queen” and voila, you have 100% of the previous racism and yet, “I’m not racist, I don’t do Racist Action 3″

    Not having black friends is racist, therefore have a token black friend and you’re not racist. As Ed so often mentions, maybe let them use their bathroom.

    Burning a cross on someones lawn isn’t racist. It’s a fire. It’s the intent and beliefs of the action that makes it racist, and obviously historically in America it has been and continues to be racist for that reason.

    But it’s not the action. It never was. It never will be.

  19. dingojack says

    coffeehoun – ‘Might not be worth the price of living with smug, sanctimonious, jackwads, though.’

    Look around. You”re already there.

    Dingo

  20. birgerjohansson says

    When viewing that old film with Clint Eastwood, I seem to recall that he said “threatening to kill the president is a crime, even if you meant it as a joke”.
    Telling people to shoot the n*gger seems A LOT like a federal crime.
    — — — — — — — — — — —
    Yes there are racists and xenophobes in every country. How they express their beliefs depend a lot on the system, the culture the economy etc.
    We have Swedish morons (the sverigedemokraterna party) but even they have learned to soften their rhetoric. Nuts this up-front about killing The Other will get a visit from the police, even if the target is not a chief of state.

  21. dingojack says

    birgerjohansson – Mr Eastwood notwithstanding, I’m not sure it is a crime. Stupid and offensive yes, but not a crime (Federal or otherwise).
    Dingo

  22. matty1 says

    @22 I think you are misreading, the “what you did” conversation is not about saying only actions on a predetermined list count as racist it is about being able to say “burning that cross was racist” without having to jump the extra hoop of persuading everyone that in the hidden depths of their soul the person with the matches feels nothing but hate towards other races.

    Remember the goal is not to get people to think “I am a terrible human being” it is to get them to treat others fairly, persuading them that what they are doing is unfair is a better first step towards that than trying to persuade them they are innately unfair as a person with no reference to actions.

    Shorter version – If you hurt someone I don’t care about why, I care about how to make you stop.

  23. dingojack says

    Matty1 – How about: ‘if you were on the receiving end, how would that make you feel’?*
    Dingo
    ——–
    * assuming they are not racist psychopaths, of course.

  24. Who Knows? says

    There seems to be so many people out there that have no idea what the word context means.

    I’d bet he’s pissed because everyone’s playing the race card now too.

  25. sailor1031 says

    Yet another cop or former cop. Are there NO standards for employment as a police officer in the US?

  26. says

    “For instance, say, “Quick tip, for future reference, that comes off as racist.”

    For racists that is definitely gonna be a learning moment, NOT.

    I’ve been in way too many bars in my life. One of the things I’ve noticed is that telling people that they are behaving/speaking in an inappropriate fashion is met with blank stares or some mumbling and then, within a few minutes (often a shorter period of time) they need to be told again. Otoh, telling them that the next time “Fuck you” comes out of their mouth they’ll be “86’d” from the room generally gets the point across.

    I’m not suggesting that insulting/threatening people is a way to get them to conform. I’m saying that making nice with assholes is generally a waste of time. The guy from Maine, no doubt, is an asshole.

  27. caseloweraz says

    “(The Secret Service) didn’t see no pictures of Obama with bullet holes in his head,” Marsters told the Daily News. “It’s not a threatening statement, in my opinion. People take it out of context as a threat.”

    “I didn’t say I was going to shoot the president, or kill — Shoot the ni**er. Shoot the ni**er. — that’s what I said,” he continued. “I’m pissed off at the system, OK? We’re about to lose our benefits because of this asshole.”

    Because the most effective way to make sure you don’t lose your health insurance benefits (or the election you’re running in) is to threaten the president. /sarc

    Let me expand that.

    1. David Marsters might be able to prove that he did not, by strict interpretation of the law, threaten the president. Even so, it was at the least in poor taste and looks to me like incitement to violence.

    2. I have no way to check, but I’d bet Marster’s fear of losing his and his wife’s health benefits is ill-founded. However, a man who says “[The secret service] didn’t see no pictures of Obama with bullet holes in his head” in this context may not have the mental acuity to understand his options under the ACA.

    3. If I’m right about #2, then this man should not be running for political office and has a lousy chance of winning. OTOH, Louie Gohmert.

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