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Aug 16 2013

Buchanan Hearts Putin

Pat Buchanan, who never fails to fall in love with a dictatorial thug when he has the chance, has a new mancrush and it’s on Vladimir Putin. He positively gushes over the fact that Russia is now throwing people in jail for nothing more than wearing a pro-equality t-shirt.

Our moral and cultural elites have put Putin on notice: Get in step with us on homosexual rights – or we may just boycott your Sochi games.

What this reveals is the distance America has traveled, morally and culturally, in a few short years, and our amnesia about who we Americans once were, and what it is we once believed.

There’s no amnesia here. I certainly remember where we morally and culturally not so long ago. We were the kind of nation that thought it was okay to put gay people in prison merely for being gay. What has happened since then is moral progress, not regress. A moral society simply does not do that, if morality is understood as something more than Buchanan’s authoritarian twaddle.

Was that America we grew up in really like Nazi Germany?

In the Catholic schools this writer attended, pornography – let alone homosexual propaganda – would get one expelled.

Was this really just like Kristallnacht?

Um. Who is making Nazi comparisons here? Does something have to be as bad as the Nazis in order to be bad at all? Let me introduce you to the fallacy of the excluded middle, Mr. Buchanan. You two have a lot to talk about.

As Father Regis Scanlon writes in Crisis Magazine, in 2005, Pope Benedict XVI reiterated Catholic doctrine that homosexuality is a “strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil,” an “objective disorder.” That homosexual acts are unnatural and immoral remains Catholic teaching.

Thus, if we seek to build a Good Society by traditional Catholic and Christian standards, why should not homosexual propaganda be treated the same as racist or anti-Semitic propaganda?

Wow, that is one of the dumbest analogies ever. First of all, we sure as hell do not want a society built on Catholicism or Christianity. Secondly, he’s missing the obvious distinction that pro-equality expression does not seek to dehumanize or oppress anyone. But most importantly, we don’t put people in jail for racist or anti-Semitic expressions; if we did, Buchanan would be in jail himself.

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  1. 1
    Gregory in Seattle

    The irony being that, when Buchanan was starting his career, Russia was not just the enemy but The Enemy. He also conveniently ignores the fact that non-Orthodox Christianity — including Roman Catholicism — has been suppressed in Russia for several centuries, up to this very day. Odd, isn’t it, how his hatred for The Gayz makes him blind to what they are doing to followers of his own religion.

    As for comparisons with the Nazis…. Actually, we gay people are the ones making the comparison. Hitler agreeing to take down anti-Jewish signs “as a gesture of good will in the Olympic spirit” did nothing to improve the lot of the people being persecuted, and the IOC allowing the 1936 Summer Games to be held in Berlin gave the Nazi regime a superb platform for displaying favorable propaganda that covered up a great many ugly truths. The IOC would rather let Russia take an identical course than follow their own charter which supports human rights. The reasonable comparison is that, just as the IOC refused to see Jews as deserving of human rights in 1936, the IOC refuses to see gays as deserving of human rights in 2014.

  2. 2
    birgerjohansson

    Society that does not endorse dehumanizing or oppressing anyone…Buchanan: “Help, help, I’m being oppressed!”

  3. 3
    eric

    Thus, if we seek to build a Good Society by traditional Catholic and Christian standards, why should not homosexual propaganda be treated the same as racist or anti-Semitic propaganda?

    Mr. Buchanan, the second two are perfectly legal. So if you want to treat the first like them…

  4. 4
    matty1

    In the Catholic schools this writer attended, pornography – let alone homosexual propaganda – would get one expelled.

    He doesn’t seem to understand the difference between pornography and political advocacy or even personal support*. Here’s a hint Pat it is possible to talk about same sex couples without discussing what they do in bed.

    Maybe he regards every children’s book that includes a mother and father as the same as a copy of Hustler.

    *This may be the area where this law could do most harm, inhibiting teachers from challenging bullies because any support for a gay student could be seen as “homosexual propaganda”.

  5. 5
    colnago80

    A former supervisor of mine whet to high school with ole Pat and told us that he was a drunk even at that rather tender age. I suspect that ole Pat’s brain has been pickled in alcohol.

  6. 6
    colnago80

    Re @5

    went, not whet

  7. 7
    Modusoperandi

    Don’t worry. The Jailed Gays in Russia are perfectly fine and happy and safe and happy. You can visit them in Potemkin Village.

  8. 8
    Raging Bee

    Well, if Pat loves Putin so much, he can go live in Russia. And I’m sure Putin would have no problem taking a new bitch, being such a manly man and all. And best of all, he’s single again, so Pat wouldn’t have to compete so much for Putin’s attention. And we’d be rid of another doddering old bigot — it’s a win-win-win!

  9. 9
    frankb

    Pat always had a mean face and a mean mouth. I wondered why he cared that people he didn’t like, doing things that didn’t concern him, were stopping pregnancies that would give birth to kids he wouldn’t like. Pat doesn’t let logic get in the way of a good hate. I remember Buchanan praising Hitler so why would he Godwin anyone?

  10. 10
    scottbelyea

    “…our amnesia about who we Americans once were, and what it is we once believed….”

    Exactly. I recall an old Doonesbury strip. Andy joins the campaign on which Joanie is working. She has a friend named (I think) Ginny, whose boyfriend is Clyde (black). Clyde confronts Andy. The exchange is something like:

    “I hear you’re gay.”

    “Right … and I hear you’re black.”

    “Yeah, but that’s normal.”

    “Didn’t used to be.”

  11. 11
    felidae

    I wish I had a time machine so I could send ‘ol Paddy back to the middle of the 19th century so he could experience first hand the prejudice and hatred for the Irish prevalent at that time. I don’t know if it would change him but it would sure be fun to watch him be on the receiving end

  12. 12
    a miasma of incandescent plasma

    Pope Benedict XVI reiterated Catholic doctrine that homosexuality is a “strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil,” an “objective disorder.”

    Right.
    And since this is from the Pope NFCN!! (No fucken citation needed)

  13. 13
    coffeehound

    Modus @ 7

    The Jailed Gays in Russia are perfectly fine and happy and safe and happy. You can visit them in Potemkin Village.

    No, no, no, silly! Listen to old pickled uncle Pat, they’re not in jail, they’ve been expelled. From society. For porn. Or something……

    And it it’s also amusing to me that he quotes the Catholic Church whom he presumes
    1. Has any bearing on the laws we write.
    2.Has their own problem ‘controlling’ the ‘problem’ of endemic gays in their structure regardless of their ‘strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil,” an “objective disorder.” ‘ Though perhaps a more open policy toward gays would allow them to seek out an interior designer to straighten out that taste disaster known as the Vatican. Damn! /snark

  14. 14
    slavdude

    He also conveniently ignores the fact that non-Orthodox Christianity — including Roman Catholicism — has been suppressed in Russia for several centuries, up to this very day.

    Well, not quite. Russian Orthodoxy was the state religion under the tsars, with Islam and Buddhism also enjoying a privileged if lesser status. When the empire absorbed most of Poland in 1795, Catholicism joined this group, although given the centuries of discord between Eastern and Western Christianity, this was more problematic, especially in the Uniate areas of Belarus and Ukraine.

    Religion as such was only really suppressed (and that not completely successfully, and not universally) in the Soviet period. Once again the Orthodox Church, whose accommodations to the Soviet system do not reflect well on it today, is the state church of Russia.

    [/pedantry]

  15. 15
    John Pieret

    felidae @ 11:

    I wish I had a time machine so I could send ‘ol Paddy back to the middle of the 19th century so he could experience first hand the prejudice and hatred for the Irish prevalent at that time.

    It wouldn’t have to be that far back. My own father used to tell of seeing “No Irish Need Apply” signs in New York in the 1920s and ’30s.

    In the Catholic schools this writer attended, pornography – let alone homosexual propaganda – would get one expelled.

    Well, Pat, you might have noticed that there is a slight difference between being expelled from a private school and being thrown in prison … or, then again, maybe not, since you obviously pine for the days of the Inquisition.

  16. 16
    Francisco Bacopa

    Buchanan and Putin sittin’ in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G!

    Come on Pat: Go back to Russia.

  17. 17
    freehand

    I think it is telling and fitting, but not ironic, that the current neoconservatives have offered such gushing praise for the Russian way of doing things. The likes of Buchanan have always reminded me of the dour men in charge of the empire from the Kremlin.

  18. 18
    Modusoperandi

    freehand “I think it is telling and fitting, but not ironic, that the current neoconservatives have offered such gushing praise for the Russian way of doing things.”
    Pat Buchanan’s a paleocon.*
     
    * Paleoconservatism: All the patriarchy and religious authoritarianism of Conservatism, minus the grasp for empire.

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