Dumbass Quote of the Day


Today’s dumbass quote of the day comes from Rush Limbaugh. I know, I could give him an award for this pretty much every day. But this one is particularly idiotic, even for him. He claims that no one who believes in God could possibly believe in global warming.

See, in my humble opinion, if you believe in God, then intellectually you cannot believe in manmade global warming. You must be either agnostic or atheistic to believe that man controls something he can’t create. It’s always in fact one of my reasons for my anti-manmade global warming stance, the vanity, these people on the one hand, we’re not different than a mouse or a rat, if you listen to the animal rights activists, we are the pollutants of this planet. If it weren’t for humanity, the militant environmentalist whackos, if it weren’t for humanity the earth would be pristine and wonderful and beautiful. But nobody would see it. According to them, we are different, we are not as entitled to life on this planet as other creatures because we destroy it. But how can we destroy it when we’re no different than the lowest life forms?

That argument is so idiotic that a modestly bright 4 year old could spot the fallacies.

Comments

  1. says

    “That argument is so idiotic that a modestly bright 4 year old could spot the fallacies.”

    Neither Limbaugh nor his followers come up to the intelligence level of even an averagely bright 4 year old.

  2. Reginald Selkirk says

    I can’t create sunlight, but I can control it with a magnifying glass, enough to burn some ants.

  3. addiepray says

    To paraphrase the great philosopher Marx: “He’s got the brain of a four year old child– and I bet the child was glad to get rid of it.”

  4. says

    Limbaugh is expressing something consistent with a common theological position:

    God created the world, humans are its stewards and we couldn’t possibly destroy the world because that is directly in opposition with God’s plan.

    But he’s doing it in a VERY bizarre and logically flawed way. What he should have said is that “If you believe in God the way that I do, you cannot believe in manmade global warming…” because there are many theists who don’t subscribe to this line of thought.

    Limbaugh, like many other theists don’t recognize that there are other theists who disagree with their view…because they consider those believers to be EQUIVALENT to atheists, because they don’t believe in the right god in the right way. “No True Christian” simply gets implicitly rolled in to every comment they make.

  5. raven says

    You must be either agnostic or atheistic to believe that man controls something he can’t create.

    We can’t create energy. This is basic, conservation of mass energy.

    But we can control it.

    1. Turn on a light or computer. Electricity is energy and you just controlled it.

    2. Start your car. Which runs on gasoline created by god just for us. If you can’t control a gas fueled vehicle, you have no business driving.

    Fundies live for hypocrisy. They say things are impossible that they do every day.

  6. cswella says

    You must be either agnostic or atheistic to believe that man controls something he can’t create.

    So would it be fair to say that Rush Limbaugh is against house training his dog?

    Also, didn’t god give dominion over the earth to humans in genesis?

  7. jamessweet says

    He’s got a grain of truth there in pointing out some of the problems with the “humanity as a pollutant” paradigm, but he is not articulating the objections to it well at all.

    And the anti-global warming thing is just stupid. You can’t change something you can’t create? Um, okay, I guess that means homicide is a myth…. (unless it was a team effort by a fertile heterosexual couple, perhaps?)

  8. raven says

    See, in my humble opinion, if you believe in God, then intellectually you cannot believe in manmade global warming.

    Which god?

    There are billions of gods. Xians have sockpuppet gods, made up in their own mind that closely resembles them by some coincidence.

    Limbaugh is clearly referring to his sockpuppet god. Which is only believed by one person, Rush Limbaugh.

  9. says

    Limbaugh, like many other theists don’t recognize that there are other theists who disagree with their view…because they consider those believers to be EQUIVALENT to atheists, because they don’t believe in the right god in the right way. “No True Christian” simply gets implicitly rolled in to every comment they make.

    When those dissenting theists complain about what he says, he treats them like atheists as you describe. When they aren’t complaining, he implicitly claims they are True Christians and that they’re on his side.

  10. raven says

    It turns out Limbaugh has been losing advertisers and advertiser money for years.

    His show isn’t going to disappear but it is in trouble and in danger of being dropped by lots of stations.

    Couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy.

  11. raven says

    Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity may lose 40-channel Cumulus deal …
    www. washingtontimes. com/…/rush-limbaugh-sean-hannity-may-lose-40-…‎

    Jul 29, 2013 – Cumulus Media, the second-largest broadcast company in the nation, is poised to drop Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity from its stations …

    FWIW. I don’t follow Limbaugh at all. He is simply too dumb and disgusting to bother with.

  12. Doc Bill says

    Limbaugh doesn’t even believe Limbaugh. Face it, Rushbo is an entertainer pure and simple and his schtick is to rile up rednecks. He’s been very successful at that to the tune of over $20 million a year. The more outrageous Rush is the more money he makes. It’s capitalism, baby!

  13. Mr Ed says

    Yeast are added to a carboy of wort
    The yeast are given dominion over the wort and become fruitful and multiply
    Alcohol produced by the yeast kills the yeast
    Only God can alter the environment
    Therefore Yeast is God (and dead)

    /all hail our quick leavening savior
    //this is consistent with the Bible and the unleavened bread stories

  14. says

    “See, in my humble opinion, if you believe in God, then intellectually you cannot believe in manmade global warming.

    If you believe:

    A.) That Rushbo believes in GOD, at all.

    C.) That humility resides in his withered heart.

    or

    π.) Even HAVE an intellect

    You will be disabused of any notions that Rushbo puts out there, toot sweet!

  15. ludicrous says

    What is it about the young that drives grownups to use them as measures of bright, not so bright, dumb, smart etc etc. Over and over and over.

    It is no longer polite to use women, the old, different skin colors this way. I’m thinking it may be a reaction to being treated disrespectfully ourselves when we were young. If it is a chain reaction, let’s break it. Show a little respect for the little ones. Think of another way to grade people you don’t agree with, You can do it, use your great intellectual powers of “adulthood”, leave the kids alone.

  16. ludicrous says

    Yeah, one more thing. The habit of using a group, any group for invidious comparison is sloppy way of thinking, a sloppy way of emphasizing a point. If your point is not strong enough to stand on its own specifics maybe it’s not strong enough to be taken seriously.

  17. Funny Diva says

    [grammar nerd]
    Thank you, Ed, for knowing the difference between every day and everyday!
    [/grammar nerd]

  18. eric says

    You must be either agnostic or atheistic to believe that man controls something he can’t create.

    I flex my middle finger at the screen. Its disproof and disapproval at the same time. :)

  19. raven says

    You must be either agnostic or atheistic to believe that man controls something he can’t create.

    This is such a meaningless and senseless statement.

    1. I can’t control my cats which I most certainly didn’t create. Very well anyway.

    2. I can control the weeds in my garden which I also didn’t create. I just pull them up and dig them out and they are dead and gone.

    The fact is, as technological tool users with hands and minds, we control a huge amount of what we didn’t create. That is a big part of what being human is.

  20. raven says

    At least LImbaugh is in line with some other religious leaders.

    They claimed we could never reach space or the moon because of god somehow.

    Man on earth can no more get rid of these demonic “heavens” than man can by airplane or rockets or other means get up above the air envelope which is about our earthly globe and in which man breathes.

    Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, The Truth Shall Make You Free (1943), p. 285 (The Jehovoah’s Witlesses)

    Apostle Joseph Fielding Smith of the Church of Latter Day Saints, uttered at a conference in 1961.

    We will never get a man into space. This earth is man’s sphere and it was never intended that he should get away from it…

    The moon is a superior planet to the earth and it was never intended that man should go there. You can write it down in your books that this will never happen.

    Some religions even today believe the moon landings were faked, i.e Hare Krishna’s and some Mormons. Oddly enough, a few of the astronauts are…Mormons.

  21. Sastra says

    While reading this quote I remembered the surprised expression on the face of my 4-year-old neighbor when he stepped onto a large limb of my lilac bush and heard it go ‘crack!’ But it was big. And he was little. By his reasoning he simply shouldn’t have been able to break it. But he did.

    You must be either agnostic or atheistic to believe that man controls something he can’t create.

    I think this is supposed to translate into “people who believe in God would know that God would never allow us to break anything that belongs to God.”

    I had warned the little boy that the bush was old and fragile right before he put his little foot right on the tempting branch. If I had been God, then I would have magically fixed it right away.

  22. Don Williams says

    1) I agree that much of what Rush says is moronic. So why is it that he has had control of one of this nation’s major microphones for public discourse for over a decade?

    And who is the lowly life form — Rush or we who let him become a multimillionaire by lying to us over our own airwaves???

  23. Don Williams says

    It is kinda hilarious for us to sneer at Rush — when in terms of political influence we are conducting our lofty Socratic dialogues out in the middle of a forest — talking with the squirrels.

  24. says

    Sastra said:

    I think this is supposed to translate into “people who believe in God would know that God would never allow us to break anything that belongs to God.”

    Ultimately, everything supposedly belongs to God.

    Proximately, only the really big things do, because when you try to make that claim with smaller things it’s more transparently bullshit.

  25. colnago80 says

    Re Don Williams @ #25

    P. T. Barnum:

    1. There’s a sucker born every minute.

    2. Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.

    Limp dick Limbaugh, the Viagra man, survives and prospers because millions listen to him every day and advertisers advertise on his program because they think that his listeners will purchase their products and services. However, see raven @ #10.

    Just for ducks, how would ole Donaldo propose to prevent limp dick from going on the air?

  26. Morgan says

    You must be either agnostic or atheistic to believe that man controls something he can’t create.

    Only God can make a tree, yet axes are cheap.

  27. wscott says

    At least LImbaugh is in line with some other religious leaders. They claimed we could never reach space or the moon because of god somehow.

    @ raven: What absolutely baffles me is how today’s religious fundamentalists can so easily see & acknowledge the errors of previous generation’s fundamentalists – supporting slavery, opposing interracial marriage, etc – and not see that they’re doing the exact same thing? I’ve tried using this argument in conversations with believers, and have never had it work once. Suggestions?

    I think this is supposed to translate into “people who believe in God would know that God would never allow us to break anything that belongs to God.”

    @ Sastra: Exactly. I think this is close to the root of why so many fundamentalists deny global warming – because a benevolent all-knowing, all-powerful god simply would never allow such a thing to happen. Evidence that it is happening therefore threatens to undermine their most deeply-held beliefs, producing a flood of cognitive dissonance that’s impossible to overcome.

    Only God can make a tree, yet axes are cheap.

    @ Morgan: I am SO stealing this!

  28. says

    It is kinda hilarious for us to sneer at Rush — when in terms of political influence we are conducting our lofty Socratic dialogues out in the middle of a forest — talking with the squirrels.

    I wasn’t aware that having a huge amount of influence was a requirement in order to have a discussion.

  29. says

    @22:

    As Chrissie Hynde says, “A-O. Way to go, Ohio.”.

    “It is kinda hilarious for us to sneer at Rush — when in terms of political influence we are conducting our lofty Socratic dialogues out in the middle of a forest — talking with the squirrels.”

    Dondi:

    It is sooooooooooooooo unseemly to use the “Royal ‘WE'” when speaking of oneself in the third person*. That there are MILLIONS of folks like you, listening to and actually giving credence to Rushbo’s nonsense is NOT surprising, although it is discouraging.

    * N.B. The squirrels? Just a word to the wise; they ain’t there to TALK to the nuts.

  30. eric says

    Don Williams:

    And who is the lowly life form — Rush or we who let him become a multimillionaire by lying to us over our own airwaves???

    I fully support his right to free speech and the market that lets others buy his goods. He uses those rights and freedoms to spout idiocy. IMO that makes him the lowlier life form.

    Now, are you arguing that people who support free speech and free markets are lowlier than the worst speech and worst products produced by those freedoms? I suspect you don’t want to say that – I suspect, instead, that you wrote what you thought was a nice turn of phrase without ever really thinking through what it meant or implied. That’s okay, if you want to admit it was an idiotic thing to say and take it back, I’ll understand.

  31. Don Williams says

    Thanks for settling the question, eric. Obviously the one life form lower than Rush Limbaugh is the one who is not only Rush’s willing bitch but finds nobility in the role.

    Rush has caused enormous damage to this country — and in part due to stupid liberals who not only allowed it but who also swallow George Will’s sophistry that “money is speech” and so it is okay for a few billionaires to mount a 24/7 propaganda campaign to control the national discourse while 310 Million Americans have no say whatsoever.

  32. colnago80 says

    Re Don Williams @ #36

    I certainly hope that Mr. Bezos’ first act after the purchase of the Post goes through is to shifcan George Will, Michael Gerson, Charles Krauthammer, and Marc Theissen.

  33. Don Williams says

    SLC at 37:
    1) Well, they are already turning on one another like a pack of cannibals over at the Post. Witness former ombudsman Patrick Pexton ‘s open letter to Bezos calling for Jennifer Rubin to be fired.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/08/15/jennifer_rubin_patrick_pexton_ex_washington_post_ombudsman_tells_jeff_bezos.html

    2) I kinda like Jennifer even though we disagree on most things political. She at least responds to comments posted to her articles — when she wrote about George Zimmerman she was interested in my comment that
    Democratic -aligned news media are trying to lynch George in a desperate attempt to distract black voters attention away from 5 years of unemployment averaging 15%.

    But she then argued that Holder will prosecute Zimmerman — whereas I noted that Holder will merely hold the threat of said prosecution over Zimmerman until Zimmerman settles the defamation lawsuit he filed against NBC. Because NBC wouldn’t accept being screwed without taking the White House down as well.

    Out of tact, however, I did not speculate on the agenda of the Comcast CEO who owns NBC. Nor did I note that the local lawyer Zimmerman has retained donated $2500 to the Romney campaign.

  34. colnago80 says

    Re Don Williams @ #38

    The only saving grace for neo-con Jennifer Rubin is that she doesn’t buy into much of the religious right’s ideological crap and is not at all shy about saying so. Other then that, she just another Dick Cheney wannabee.

  35. colnago80 says

    Re Don Williams @ #39

    Rubin at least says something interesting once in a while. Krauthammer and Will haven’t said anything interesting in 10 years. The only saving grace for Will is that he doesn’t buy into the neo-con arguments about getting into stupid wars. Krauthammer is nothing but a shill for send in the marines

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