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Dumbass Quote of the Day

Bryan Fischer delivered one of his standard idiotic screeds about Russia’s new anti-gay law, bizarrely claiming that gay rights supporters should support those laws because of diversity. “”We’ve got plenty of room in our multicultural world for all sorts of different cultural values and trends,” Fischer said. “Isn’t this wonderful what Russia is doing. Let’s celebrate diversity and let’s support this tradition in the nation of Russia.” Right. Just like blacks should have supported those states that discriminated against them and attacked them with police dogs. It’s still astonishing to me that someone could be this stupid and irrational and manage to tie his shoes.

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  1. says

    “It’s still astonishing to me that someone could be this stupid and irrational and manage to tie his shoes.”

    First, he’s not that stupid. Second, he has people for that. Third, he can afford the second thing because of the first thing.

  2. Mr Ed says

    Apartheid the ultimate multicultural expression and the inquisition was a shining example of religious freedom.

  3. John Pieret says

    How clever! He really boxed in those liberals with their talk about cultural diversity!

    Professing themselves to be wise clever, they became fools

  4. matty1 says

    It’s the old lie that if you disapprove of intolerance you are being intolerant. Not only does it confuse criticism with discrimination but it misses the point of what tolerance is. I know I’ve banged on about this by before but I’ll say it again.

    Tolerance is not endorsement or celebration, you do not have to like someone to tolerate them you have to accept them and their rights.

    A tolerant society is better and stronger than what Putin is building in Russia because in a tolerant society everyone, even Bryan Fischer, gets the same legal standing. Don’t believe me, try an experiment – hand out leaflets with the anti-gay Bible passages on at a gay pride march, then hand out leaflets arguing for gay rights in Moscow. See which one gets you arrested quickest.

    For the experiment to work your actions should be the same in both places except for the content of the leaflets and you should avoid doing anything else you could get arrested for that might confuse the results, e.g blocking traffic, trying to enter private areas, making a loud noise late at night, physically accosting people in order to give them the leaflet or speak to them.

  5. Chiroptera says

    What, right wingers don’t understand the meaning of basic words like “diversity”?

    We need to start a new aid program: Dictionaries For Conservatives.

  6. arakasi says

    Since non-Orthodox Christianity is not part of any “tradition in the nation of Russia”*, Fischer would apparently be fine with Russian laws that mandate jail time for evangelical Christians.

    *A law was passed in Russia in 1997 that declared Orthodox Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and Buddhism as part of Russia’s “historical heritage”, which seems to close enough to Fischer’s words for me.

  7. says

    Something some guy said about foolish consistency springs to mind here.

    Wait, I got it! Bryan Fischer is a hobgoblin!

    —–

    More seriously, Fischer falls into the usual logical failure of assuming that because liberals and progressives prefer diverse, tolerant societies, it follows that we ought to celebrate “diverse” practices that violate liberal or progressive notions of equality & human rights, because we have to be consistent in our preferences for diversity and tolerance, no matter what the diversity is or what we’re being asked to tolerate.

    Suffice to say that, in my opinion no liberal or progressive needs to accept such framing under any circumstance.

  8. says

    I can’t recall cultural relativism being invoked for tolerating injustice by someone on “the left” without being ostracized by the liberal community. Cultural relativism, in my experience, is mostly about being understanding when social confusion results from conflicting cultural conventions about morally neutral things. Or about not being too harsh on people who were raised in bad environments while still educating, criticizing, and correcting when possible.

    Wingnuts, however, love to invoke cultural relativism and similar worldviews to justify immoral things like biblical genocide, the unaccountability of Christian leaders and organizations, and traditions that are discriminatory against racial, sexual, and religious minorities. Of course, for them, it’s only a one-way rationalization of rhetorical convenience, not a consistent ideology.

    I’m also reminded of my brother saying something I thought was clever in a meta sort of way. I can’t remember how he phrased it, but the general idea is something like this: If my cultural upbringing includes the use of moral reasoning to judge the actions of another culture to be wrong, who are you to say I’m wrong for using that moral reasoning, since it’s a part of my culture?

  9. hunter says

    Completely OT — I mean, I don’t need to comment on Bryan Fischer, he does a good enough job on his own — but one thing that’s been bothering me. You can center videos and the like in the column by preceding the imbed code with “p align=center” (inside the usual brackets) and then closing the tag after the embed code with /p.

    Just a little housekeeping hint. Makes for a better looking page.

  10. says

    To be truly tolerant is to support the destruction of tolerance. Among slower children in the third, grade, formulations like this almost seem clever, so I’d expect it seems brilliant to Fischer’s target audience.

  11. skinnercitycyclist says

    What makes you think he’s even wearing shoes? I have never seen BF out from behind that desk of his, maybe he’s legless.

  12. imthegenieicandoanything says

    Well, he isn’t legless, exactly. He’s half-mollusk*, moving on a sort of “foot” which is lubricated with mucus and covered with epithelial cilia.

    *His mother was a hamster and his father smellt of elderberries, after all.

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