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Kentucky is the New Kansas

Or the new Texas, I suppose. Kentucky is currently writing new science standards for public schools and, predictably, the wingnuts are out in force to attack the teaching of evolution and push for the inclusion of creationism. They’re trotting out all the usual hysteria:

But the majority of comments during the two-hour hearing came from critics who questioned the validity of evolution and climate change and railed against the standards as a threat to religious liberty, at times drawing comparisons to Soviet-style communism.

One parent, Valerie O’Rear, said the standards promote an “atheistic world view” and a political agenda that pushes government control.

Matt Singleton, a Baptist minister in Louisville who runs an Internet talk-radio program, called teachings on evolution a lie that has led to drug abuse, suicide and other social afflictions.

“Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man’s elitist religion of evolution, that we no longer have what the Kentucky Constitution says is the right to worship almighty God,” Singleton said. “Instead, this fascist method teaches that our children are the property of the state.”

At one point, opponent Dena Stewart-Gore of Louisville also suggested that the standards will marginalize students with religious beliefs, leading to ridicule and physiological harm in the classroom, and create difficulties for students with learning disabilities.

“The way socialism works is it takes anybody that doesn’t fit the mold and discards them,” she said, adding that “we are even talking genocide and murder here, folks.”

Seriously, could they be any more ridiculous if they tried?

Comments

  1. erichoug says

    Good GACK! Is there a point at which we can just point and laugh at these people? What about organizing groups of people to go to these and laugh hysterically whenever people say these sort of things? I mean you don’t have to stand up and shout “MORON!” but why can’t we just have like 50 people who just start sniggering when they say things like this?

  2. lldayo says

    Opponents ridiculed the new standards as “fascist” and “atheistic” and said they promoted thinking that leads to “genocide” and “murder.”

    Because religion has never lead to any of that….

  3. says

    At one point, opponent Dena Stewart-Gore of Louisville also suggested that the standards will marginalize students with religious beliefs, leading to ridicule and physiological harm in the classroom, and create difficulties for students with learning disabilities.

    Isn’t that what they advocate children do to their peers who choose not to recite “under god” in the pledge? And gay kids. And atheists in general. And Muslims. And girls.

    And what’s so harmful about evolution to those with learning disabilities? In my experience, eugenics is generally a religious and/or pseudo-racial thing they try to distort science into advocating. Educating people in what science really says is the best way to counter that.

  4. oranje says

    Wait, how did they get from evolution to elitists to socialism this quickly? Where’s my dramamine?

  5. skinnercitycyclist says

    Matt Singleton, a Baptist minister in Louisville who runs an Internet talk-radio program, called teachings on evolution a lie that has led to drug abuse, suicide and other social afflictions.

    “Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man’s elitist religion of evolution…”

    Do not worry, Matt, I see no signs of evolution in you or your ilk at all.

  6. Chiroptera says

    Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man’s elitist religion of evolution….

    lol

    Meanwhile, these clowns vote against “Obamacare” ’cause dying of easlly preventable diseases totally sticks it to the man!

  7. raven says

    At one point, opponent Dena Stewart-Gore of Louisville also suggested that the standards will marginalize students with religious beliefs, leading to ridicule and physiological harm in the classroom, and create difficulties for students with learning disabilities.

    This makes no sense.

    She is equating students with religious beliefs with students with learning disabilities.

    They aren’t at all the same thing. Voluntary ignorance due to parental brainwashing and learning disabilities are two entirely separate things.

  8. dcsohl says

    Every single time I read a story like this, the word “projection” flits through my head, back and forth, back and forth. It’s really very hard to think of anything else. It’s kind of a reverse “golden rule”… whereas the original says you should treat others as you would have you treat them, the conservative rule says that others *must* be treating you the way you would treat them if you could.

    Don’t like the standards? It’s because they’re marginalizing you… which is exactly what you would do to them if you had your way. Or maybe it’s an agenda that pushes governmental control… which is exactly what you would do if you had your way. Or maybe it’s “telling public school families that we must follow the rich man’s elitist religion”… which is exactly what you would do if you had your way.

    So they must be doing all these things – that’s logic, right?

  9. raven says

    Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man’s elitist religion of evolution….

    They never miss a chance to lie.

    The schools require students to know what evolution is and how it works.

    Whether they believe it or not is up to the kids. The schools can’t make them believe anything nor should they.

    I know more than the vast majority of xians about xianity, since they deliberately try not to know anything about it. And a lot about Marxism, communism, and Islam. That doesn’t mean I believe any of it. In fact, the more I know, the less likely I would be to believe any of it.

  10. markr1957 says

    Matt Singleton, a Baptist minister in Louisville who runs an Internet talk-radio program, called teachings on evolution a lie that has led to drug abuse, suicide and other social afflictions.

    It isn’t teaching evolution that leads to drug abuse, suicide and other social afflictions – it’s discovering that your parents, teachers and preacher(s) have been lying to you for your entire childhood that does that.

  11. D. C. Sessions says

    How about new standards for math as well?

    Current secular mathematics, after all, uses a Biblically incorrect value for pi. Bound to make a child doubt the Word of God just as much as evolution casts doubt on Genesis.

  12. John Pieret says

    Matt Singleton, a Baptist minister in Louisville who runs an Internet talk-radio program, called teachings on evolution a lie that has led to drug abuse, suicide and other social afflictions.

    “Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man’s elitist religion of evolution …

    Wait! Rich men are all suicidal, socially afflicted, drug addicts? How’d I miss that?

    Or is Singleton just randomly stringing togeter dog whistles to scare his fellow ignoramuses?

  13. some bastard on the net says

    Matt Singleton, a Baptist minister in Louisville who runs an Internet talk-radio program, called teachings on evolution a lie that has led to drug abuse, suicide and other social afflictions.

    Humans share a common ancestor with all other primates…

    Clearly this means I must use meth and then jump off a building!

  14. garnetstar says

    That does sound like my chemistry classes, actually.

    Formulate a hypothesis, devise a experiment, set up a socialist regime, and commit suicide.

    Extra credit if you violently overthrow a democracy.

  15. lorn says

    The facts of evolution interfere with their ability to delude themselves into believing in supernaturalism. Oh cry me a river.

    It has been a principle of US law, adopted from British common law, that the state has primary authority to determine what is best for the children. This is the point of law that allows children to be taken away from unfit parents. The custom is that parents are provisionally, until they prove themselves unfit or unable, allowed by the state to have control over their children.

    This is a practical point of law that mainline churches haven’t historically had an issue with. Until now.

  16. Johnny Au Gratin says

    I was born and raised in Kentucky, and currently reside there. I can report that Kentucky is not the new Kansas or Texas. The truth is much more disturbing. It is the same old Kentucky.

  17. says

    garnetstar:

    Formulate a hypothesis, devise a experiment, set up a socialist regime, and commit suicide.

    Thanks. My keyboard is covered with beer. Which took a detour from the normal esophagus route through my nose, at explosive velocities. Which means it’s probably mixed with mucus.

    I’m never getting that shit out.

  18. martinc says

    Seriously, could they be any more ridiculous if they tried?

    Please stop challenging them, Ed.

  19. says

    Among other reasons, I don’t think I could win an election as I don’t think I could restrain myself from calling people who make such claims liars to their face.

  20. freehand says

    composer99 – But they are exactly liars; they are lying to themselves. They don’t have faith, they have a desperate, clinging hope, sustained only by a determined life-long effort to stay ignorant. And now we want to educate them. Or at least their kids, anyway. They mask their terror with hatred and violence.
    .
    And they will never see themselves as others do.
    .
    It is cute how they continually insult sciences like climatology and evolutionary biology by calling them “religions”.

  21. davem says

    The way socialism works is it takes anybody that doesn’t fit the mold and discards them

    Hmmm. That makes it rather like capitalism…

  22. spamamander, internet amphibian says

    @ 20

    Wouldn’t that be “I’ll never get this snot out” rather than “I’ll never get this shit out”? Unless, of course, my science teachings failed me.

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