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Beck: America Created for Israel

Glenn Beck went on an epic rant in front of John Hagee’s Christians United for Israel, claiming that God created America in order to help recreate Israel 160 years later. He falsely claims that there is a star of David on the back of the dollar (there isn’t) and that this was intentionally made to signal a covenant with God. Funny, the religious right of that day didn’t seem to notice this “covenant.” In fact, they spent most of their time ranting about not having one.

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  1. raven says

    He falsely claims that there is a star of David on the back of the dollar (there isn’t) …

    I had to look at a dollar.

    1. There might be a star of David. On the right above the eagle are 13 stars, representing I guess the original 13 colonies. If you draw lines, through them, you can generate a star of David.

    Hmmm, what about those 13 stars though? Isn’t 13 a satanic symbol. That is what the fundies claimed about P&G’s old logo.

    2. On the left is a pagan symbol. A pyramid and above the pyramid the floating top has an eye.

  2. slc1 says

    Re raven @ #2

    On the left is a pagan symbol. A pyramid and above the pyramid the floating top has an eye.

    It’s actually a Masonic symbol and is the basis for any number of conspiracy theories as to the influence of Masonic institutions on the USA.

  3. iangould says

    So your Founding Fathers made deals with God AND with Satan?

    Way to cover your bets, guys.

  4. Mr Ed says

    The Star of David is right next to the camel and the pickup truck behind the pyramid. Just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t there

  5. Chiroptera says

    …claiming that God created America in order to help recreate Israel 160 years later.

    Any history buffs here to weigh in on this? ‘Cause I thought that the US wasn’t exactly enthusiastic about the creation of Israel; the most it did (I thought) was not vote against it in the UN. Am I wrong?

  6. blf says

    It was supposed to be the face on Mars. However, the instructions from the ancient Mayans were mistranslated.

  7. exdrone says

    I think that god established Sumeria for the purpose of establishing Israel for the purpose of inspiring the Founding Fathers to establish America for the purpose of re-establishing Israel for the purpose of causing Beck to figure out his plan. God just reclined in his easy chair, opened a beer and said, “Done and done. Now, let’s see. What’s next?”

  8. says

    He falsely claims that there is a star of David on the back of the dollar (there isn’t) and that this was intentionally made to signal a covenant with God.

    You just aren’t folding it right! There’s also a way to fold it to show the WTC towers collapsing, so now you know George Washington planned the inside job from the beginning!

  9. Shplane, Spess Alium says

    Guys I just folded this dollar into a picture of myself folding a dollar.

    THEY KNOW

  10. matty1 says

    Maybe he just gets money and God confused, it happens a lot with these wealthy religious types.

  11. felidae says

    I’m pretty sure GW didn’t give a shit about the restoration of Israel–the scary part is not Glenn’s rant but the fact that the audience is cheering instead of laughing

  12. eamick says

    Beck is undoubtedly thinking of the stars in the Great Seal, but the hexagram is also used in Freemasonry. It’s arguably more likely that was the inspiration for its inclusion, especially given the pyramid and eye on the left side of the dollar. (No, I don’t think there’s some sinister Masonic plot. Spare me.)

  13. kantalope says

    The current design for the dollar bill (according to wikipedia) was adopted in 1962. -why so late with the covenant coding?

    I think all dollars were coins until the civil war. Here’s a pic of the oldest US dollar —not very Jewish AND you can have one too for 7-10 million current dollars!

  14. busterggi says

    Now why is a Good Christian like Hagee giving a heretical Mormon like Beck a speaking platform in the first place?

  15. Scr... Archivist says

    Wasn’t the Star of David widely adopted as a symbol for Judaism only in the 19th century?

    Besides, the six-pointed star has appeared elsewhere, even as far back as the 1780′s. For example, four appear on the flag of Haarlem in the Netherlands.
    http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/nl-nh-hl.html

    However, this doesn’t mean that the U.S. Founders were secretly paying homage to tulips or globetrotters.

  16. lofgren says

    In fairness to Beck, religious zealots in the 19th century said a lot of stuff that i disagree with, too.

  17. lorn says

    In my exposure to the culture of Beck believers it has impressed me as to the numbers and depth of belief. Thousands of deeply disappointed and resentful white guys seeking a better reality to live in after giving up on the one they exist in. And an entire culture of TV preachers like Haige and media personalities like Beck and Jones offering up their own versions of fresh squeezed alternative. They offer up an entire turn-key alternative reality for the low-low price of your time, a willful suspension of disbelief, and loyalty. Dive right in, the water’s fine, as the salesman said: “all you need is desire”. You can have loads of interesting friends who will introduce you to the many aspect of their collective, consensual, willful dissembled world-view. The places you will go, the things you will see:

    Airliners crop dusting the nation with mind control agents.

    Secret Nazi moon bases.

    Lizard people.

    Railroad cars designed to carry the uncooperative to secret FEMA bases.

    But the most wonderful gifts of them all are:
    The warm feeling you get knowing that you are an insider, a potential watchdog, an elite among the uninformed sheeple.

    That everything that upsets you or makes you feel uncomfortable is 1) part of a wider grand conspiracy. 2) NOT YOUR FAULT.

  18. lofgren says

    Incidentally, Ed is cherry picking. Missionaries have been traveling to the Middle East trying to convince Jews that that God would use the US as an instrument to restore Israel almost since this country’s founding.

  19. Don Williams says

    Re busterggi at 17:
    “Now why is a Good Christian like Hagee giving a heretical Mormon like Beck a speaking platform in the first place?”

    1) As the Arabs say, when two thieves meet they need no introduction.

    People never seem to appreciate what a useful tool religion is for politics. The FEC can’t audit the collection plate to follow the money and there is no requirement to identify who paid for the message.

    2) Nor do they note that TV evangelists are advocates of the “prosperity doctrine” and focus on the sins of the poor –never the sins of the Rich.

    3) A true Christian might take solace in the idea that Hagee and Beck will scream in Hell for all eternity. See Matthew 25: 31- 46.

    https://net.bible.org/#!bible/Matthew+25:31

  20. steve84 says

    And yes the only reason the religious right supports Israel so it can be destroyed in the apocalypse.

  21. F [is for failure to emerge] says

    The current modern dollar bill? Say even prior to the current security redesign? Riiiiiight. Beck is so anachronistic and ahistorical (in a revisionist manner) it is positively hilarious.

    I guess it was god’s plan for the US to turn away some of the Jewish refugees as well as oppose the creation of the state of Israel (if only temporarily). It was all programmed in by the “Founding Fathers” (and apparently the Federal Reserve) at god’s behest.

  22. Don Williams says

    Re SLC at 27:

    Old Williams saying: Right wing support for Israel will disappear the instant that pumping the oil becomes unprofitable — and Israel will find herself alone in a sea of hostile Muslims holding a bag of catshit: the blame for Big Oil’s sodomizing of the Middle East over the past 100 years.

  23. slc1 says

    Re @26

    At the time that Israel declared independence, it was the virtually unanimous position of the State Department the declaration should not be recognized by the US. It was supported by one of Truman’s advisers, Clark Clifford, later to become famous for convincing Lyndon Johnson to stop the escalation of the Vietnam War.

  24. iangould says

    Prior to 1956, the principal military backer of Israel was Stalin’s Soviet Union.

    I guess that was ordained by God too.

  25. slc1 says

    Re Don Williams @ #28

    Sounds like Israel really better get cracking on increasing the size of its nuclear weapons deterrent so as to be able to say, if we have to go, we’ll take the rest of the world with us.

    Re iangould @ #30

    Ole Joe hid behind Czechoslovakia which was the major source of Israeli weaponry during the War of Independence. Of course, the object of the game was to oust Great Britain from the Middle East, which was accomplished by 1956, with an assist from Eisenhower. After that, the major source of Israeli weaponry was France until after the 1967 war when the US became the major supplier. Much of current Israeli weaponry is home grown, particularly tanks which are powered by German made diesel engines. They still have to purchase aircraft from the US and submarines from Germany.

  26. Don Williams says

    SLC at 31;
    1) The damage radius of nuclear weapons is a lot more limited than people realize. 8 miles sounds impressive until you look at how much that leaves uncovered.

    2) Radiological weapons are a different matter.
    I think even Bernard Brodie would have thrown up his hands if he had looked at Israel’s lack of strategic depth. In another decade the Iranians will be able to turn the entire country into a radioactive hotspot, especially with some help from the Palestinians and Syrians. It is difficult to retaliate if you don’t know where the attack came from — and will die before you can find out.

  27. slc1 says

    Re Don Williams @ #32

    This assumes that:

    a. Syria will still exist as a country in a decade, a prospect looking more unlikely with each passing day. Apparently ole Bashar thinks so too because his forces are busily ethnically cleansing Sunni Muslims from the Alawite heartland. We may end up with a Sunni rump state with a Kurdish state adjacent to the Turkish border, an Alawite state adjacent to the Lebanese border and a Druse state adjacent to the Golan Highths cease fire line.

    b. That the Palestinians will go along with a strategy what will turn most of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip into a radioactive hotspot.

    c. That the Iranians can somehow prevent retaliation from Israeli Dolphin Class Submarines firing nuclear tipped cruise missiles at Tehran and other cities in Iran. In a decade, Israel will have at least 6 such weapon systems and possibly more, each capable of firing off a dozen or more missiles. The Government of Israel ain’t going to worry about where the attack came from, they will assume it came from Iran and act accordingly.

  28. atheist says

    @steve84 – July 27, 2013 at 5:29 pm (UTC -4)

    And yes the only reason the religious right supports Israel so it can be destroyed in the apocalypse.

    The emotions within this alliance of fundamentalist Christians and ultra-nationalist Jews must be strange. The Christians of CUFI, egging on Israel to exterminate every last Palestinian and re-inhabit “Eretz Yisrael“, so that God can come back to Earth and rain down death upon Jews, Muslims, and Seculars. The Jews of AIPAC, smiling and shaking hands with Christians they know to be utterly insane, and laughing behind the backs of these bloodyminded fools they have allied themselves to. Two wonderful friends, both yearning to purify the Earth, and repopulate it with their kind.

  29. raven says

    In my exposure to the culture of Beck believers it has impressed me as to the numbers and depth of belief.

    I’ve only met one and that was online on a forum having nothing to do with politics.

    1. He is a very angry white guy.

    2. He is also very incoherent.

    This person is very old and is showing signs of age related cognitive decline.

  30. raven says

    Now why is a Good Christian like Hagee giving a heretical Mormon like Beck a speaking platform in the first place?

    Money.

    All the fundie religious leaders seem to be in it for the money.

    Some are just more obvious than others. IIRC, Hagee was kicked out of one (corrupt) sect for some sort of financial scandal. And Beck has made a huge fortune, ca. $100 million in a short time. His media empire is growing 45% a year.

  31. grumpyoldfart says

    Glenn Beck is too shy to say it out loud but he is convinced that God created America in order to ensure the birth of Glenn Beck.

  32. iangould says

    @36 “His media empire is growing 45% a year.”

    Is that according to Glenn?

    If so I’d adjust by an order of magnitude.

  33. slc1 says

    Re dingojack @ #39

    The article considers Hiroshima sized yields. Consider the effect of just a dozen Tsar bombs each of which is some 6000 times the yield of a Hiroshima sized bomb.

  34. Al Dente says

    Old Arab slogan: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less. -Howard Tayler “The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries”

  35. slc1 says

    Re Dingojack @ #42

    The one that was set off was delivered by a Bear turboprop bomber. A B52 would have to be modified to remove excess weight to generate enough lift to get off the ground.

  36. Don Williams says

    alternatively, you transport the material to Gaza and stack it to make several 500 megaton bombs — then wrap them with cobalt. Then wait until the wind is blowing right.

    Funny little guy named Leo Szilard came up with the idea roughly 60 years ago.

  37. slc1 says

    Re dingojack @ #43

    Possibly a better solution would be to modify a C5A transport plane to deliver a 100 MT bomb. A C5A can carry a 70 ton Abrams M1A1 tank, which is almost double the weight of the Tsar bomb.

    Re Don Williams @ #45

    Of course, most of the Palestinians would also be killed but nobody in the Arab world cares about them.

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