Schlafly, Crouse: Crazy Twin Powers, Activate!


When you get Phyllis Sclafly and Janice Shaw Crouse of Concerned Women for America together on the same radio show, you know the result is going to be something special. It’s like they meld together like a Transformer into one giant wingnut with amazing powers of derp.

Schlafly: Tell us what you think about the real importance and the role that traditional marriage has played in our society and must play in our society if we’re going to continue to be a free country.

Crouse: Well, I think we’re all used to hearing the arguments that marriage is best for individuals, it’s best for women, it’s best for men, it’s best for children. And I have a whole book on how marriage has really, the demise of marriage has really hurt our children. But I think the thing that is really relevant right now is the fact that marriage is so good for communities, for nations.

Wait, did the Supreme Court eliminate marriage? Did they say that no one can ever get married again? *checks the Google* Nope, they didn’t. They did make it a bit easier for some married couples to file their taxes. What does that have to do with any of this demented hysteria? Not a thing, of course.

Crouse: Conservatives, far too many, are unwilling to die for it. They are too complacent, they are too laissez faire, they really do not understand the impact of what’s happening in this country, to the point that they are willing to take a stand and make a difference. Far too many people are saying, ‘Well, I live and let live. I’m not going to be judgmental. This is what I believe, but I’m not going to foist my beliefs off on other people,’ or, ‘I can’t go out there into the public square and say these kinds of things.’ I think we have to discover a courage, we have to be very brave, we have to be willing to say, ‘This is where I stand. These are the values that made this country great. These are the values that are important to me and to my family and to my family’s future and to the family of this country.’

Can you imagine being such a deranged bigot that you’d be willing to die to stop gay people from getting married? One guy, at least, has already done that in France, killing himself on the altar of a cathedral to protect same-sex marriage. Fundamentalist Christians just love claiming fake martyrdom. She seems to be calling for real martyrdom — you first, of course, not her.

Comments

  1. doublereed says

    Far too many people are saying, ‘Well, I live and let live. I’m not going to be judgmental. This is what I believe, but I’m not going to foist my beliefs off on other people,’

    Oh come on. Who can listen to that or read that and think she’s not bigoted, intolerant, crazy, etc. etc.

  2. slc1 says

    Schlafly has been a whackjob for a long time. A goodly number of years ago, she opined that women who jog in shorts and jogging bras deserved to be raped.

  3. Larry says

    Conservatives, far too many, are unwilling to die for it.

    Lead the way, lady. Show the world you’re made of the right stuff. Conservatives, lemmings that they are, are sure to follow you over that cliff.

  4. says

    Sure, Traditional Marriage® is good and all, but who has time to arrange marriages for their kids anymore?
     
    slc1 “Schlafly has been a whackjob for a long time.”
    Now you’re just being ridiculous. She has always been a whackjob.

  5. Captain Mike says

    @ slc1: Schafly can barely open her mouth without something insane about rape falling right out of it.

  6. raven says

    Crouse: Conservatives, far too many, are unwilling to die for it.

    This sounds like something a Moslem suicide bomber would say. They die for their jihad every day. And usually take a dozen or two random strangers with them.

    And the difference between Moslem fundies and xian fundies is…nothing much. We just don’t let our homicidal religous kooks run around loose any more.

    If Crouse wants “conservatives to die for whatever (hating gays?), she should walk her talk. And die first. Of course xians love their martyrs. And as always, the best martyrs are…someone else!!!

    OK Janice Crouse, ball’s in your court now. When are you going to die for your cause and how? We all are not dying to know, especially Homeland Security.

  7. markr1957 says

    Crouse: Conservatives, far too many, are unwilling to die for it.

    I always thought that the definition of conservative included the information that they all expect someone else to fight and die for the things the cons want; especially the cowardly cons who have radio shows.

  8. Chiroptera says

    Can you imagine being such a deranged bigot that you’d be willing to die to stop gay people from getting married?

    As others have already pointed out, what Crouse is saying is that other conservatives should be willing to die for it.

    I have noticed that it has become an almost defining characteristic among modern “conservatism” that they are always so outraged that other people aren’t willing to make great sacrifices for their beliefs.

  9. CaitieCat says

    We just don’t let our homicidal religous kooks run around loose any more.

    Yeah, the program of imprisoning them all in Congress is going splendidly.

    The problem, of course, is that even if conservatives were willing to die to oppose marriage equality, none of us is willing to kill them for it. It’s damned hard to be a martyr when your opposition simply refuses to be as murderous as you are.

  10. brianwestley says

    killing himself on the altar of a cathedral to protect same-sex marriage

    Either
    “protect” -> “protest”
    or
    “same-sex” -> “opposite-sex”

  11. hunter says

    “Far too many people are saying, ‘Well, I live and let live. I’m not going to be judgmental. This is what I believe, but I’m not going to foist my beliefs off on other people,’”

    That’s called “being an American.” That’s just the way we do things here.

    And has anyone noted that when “conservatives” start talking about values, all they can manage to come up with is rules — for other people to follow?

  12. Chiroptera says

    hunter, #13: And has anyone noted that when “conservatives” start talking about values, all they can manage to come up with is rules — for other people to follow?

    Heh. I noticed that decades ago when they were screaming, “Along with rights comes responsibility.” They were, of course, talking about other people’s responsibilities.

    Same thing now when they complain about the lack of “personal responsibility.”

    And I’ve noticed they are never, ever referring to their entitlements when they complain about entitlements.

    Yeah, the list goes on and on….

  13. Larry says

    @13

    And has anyone noted that when “conservatives” start talking about values, all they can manage to come up with is rules — for other people to follow?

    Ambrose Bierce noted this is his Devil’s Dictionary:

    CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor.

    Today’s fundie xtian has extended that to believing any wild-hair law pulled out of their god’s ass is a rule everyone must live by.

  14. Captain Mike says

    …with the well-known exceptions regarding mixed fibres, haircuts and eating shellfish.

  15. says

    The problem, of course, is that even if conservatives were willing to die to oppose marriage equality, none of us is willing to kill them for it. It’s damned hard to be a martyr when your opposition simply refuses to be as murderous as you are.

    That’s the bit that makes me worry that we’ll have homophobic terrorists eager to commit suicide by cop when martyrdom doesn’t come. And their pundits will blame marriage equality proponents for “provoking” these terrorists instead of caving in and appeasing them like any patriot would.

    Of course, if they keep up their rhetoric long enough, some wingnuts might eventually notice that there’s no great persecution.

  16. CaitieCat says

    Remember, they’re only terrorists if they’re brown and Muslim. If they’re white and/or Christian, then they’re “lone wolves” or “crazy extremists”, never the inevitable outcome of a flood of eliminationist propaganda in a country with easy access to weapons of high mass lethality.

  17. jnorris says

    I could not help but notice that no one from any government agency has prevented Phyllis Sclafly and Janice Shaw Crouse from saying what they believe on the radio.

    Is the lack of persecution a form of persecution?

  18. raven says

    I could not help but notice that no one from any government agency has prevented Phyllis Sclafly and Janice Shaw Crouse from saying what they believe on the radio.

    Considering that Janice Crouse just made some xian terrorist sounding threats, I bet the Department of Homeland Security is keeping on eye on her.

    If they aren’t they should be.

  19. felidae says

    Phyllis Schlafly is one of those people whose inner ugliness shines right through to the surface for all to see

  20. busterggi says

    Why should anyone care what Schafly & Crouse say – the bible says women should remain silent and not rule over men – surely they must know that.

  21. theguy says

    Also with #12

    From the article: “One guy, at least, has already done that in France, killing himself on the altar of a cathedral to protect same-sex marriage.”

    Line from article should read “protest same-sex marriage.”

  22. illdoittomorrow says

    CaitieCat, @18:

    “Remember, they’re only terrorists if they’re brown and Muslim. If they’re white and/or Christian, then they’re “lone wolves” or “crazy extremists”, never the inevitable outcome of a flood of eliminationist propaganda in a country with easy access to weapons of high mass lethality.”

    To be charitable, those are isolated incidents, all of them, committed by men who weren’t True Scotsmen Law-Abiding Gun Owners(tm) and couldn’t be stopped anyway. Except when they could, by those heroic (yet strangely invisible!) good guys with guns.

  23. CaitieCat says

    To be charitable, those are isolated incidents, all of them,

    Exactly. Couldn’t agr-

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    Well-chosen, citizen. Also, we are in no way your government spying on you, except to protect you from the treacherous jackals of Oceania Eastasia.

    CRACK!POP!

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