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Jul 05 2013

Australia Has Wingnuts Too

It’s almost refreshing to see that America isn’t the only country with wingnuts ready to flip out over anything even remotely non-Christian. A new cabinet official there was sworn in on the Quran instead of the Bible and a whole lot of people lost their minds over it.

“Our allegiance should have been to Queen and Country first Ed. That means saying the oath on the holy bible not the Koran…. Shame, Shame, Shame,” posted one user, Ross Peace. “I am so disappointed in this government that they don’t have the spine to stand up for the Australian way of life.”

Another user, Therese Pearce, said she was “disgusted and embarrassed” for the Australian people.

“Hell i might just have to use snow white and the 7 dwarfs next time i take the oath for australia,” she posted.

One user, Anna Dean, claimed his decision to be sworn in on the Koran undermined “our culture and country and constitution in this way”.

Another user, Carrie Forrest, accused him of disregarding Australia’s constitution and pushing for sharia.

The cabinet official, Ed Husic, isn’t even a practicing Muslim, he’s just from a Bosnian Muslim family. But ZOMG, sharia law!

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  1. 1
    slc1

    Recalls the brouhaha that arose when Congressman Keith Ellison used a Qur’an once owned by Thomas Jefferson.

  2. 2
    Reginald Selkirk

    Australia Has Wingnuts Too

    No kidding. In fact they’ve been exporting them. Why do you think Ken Ham talks funny?

  3. 3
    oranje

    A lot of people named Pearce down there, it seems.

  4. 4
    aziraphale

    The Australian Constitution mentions “Almighty God” and uses as an oath “so help me God”. I imagine “Allah” could be a synonym for “God” in this context. It does not include the words “Christ” or “Christian”. Indeed it goes against the words of Christ, who told us not to swear by God or by anything else.

    I wonder if Ms Dean and Ms Forrest have read it?

  5. 5
    blf

    I wonder if Ms Dean and Ms Forrest have read it?

    I suspect we can safely assume neither has read the Quran.

  6. 6
    raven

    “Hell i might just have to use snow white and the 7 dwarfs next time i take the oath for australia,” she posted.

    Sure. Why not. What a great idea!!!

    It’s got to be better than the bible and the Koran combined.

  7. 7
    sundoga

    Yup, wingnuts aplenty. Thankfully, lots more who actually use their brain matter.

  8. 8
    d.c.wilson

    Why aren’t officials required to swear on their country’s constitution. You know, the actual document they’re swearing to uphold?

  9. 9
    Synfandel

    Why aren’t officials required to swear on their country’s constitution.

    Why is a public official required to swear ‘on’ something? Does his word not count unless he’s in physical contact with a printed publication?

    Why is he required to swear at all? If he has so little personal integrity that he’s going to abuse or neglect the office, will an oath stop him?

  10. 10
    meg

    Fortunately the reaction to most of these people by the media was ‘here’s there relevant part of the Constitution’, which actually does state there’s no religious test for office. And I ended up in a wonderful twitter conversation with an Australian Muslim soldier who declared his duty was to defend his country, including these idiots.

    The annoying bit is that for the most part, Australians no nothing about our constitution. They mix it up with the US one.

  11. 11
    timgueguen

    meg, your comment made me think of the billboard the Ahmadiya mosque a block over from where I live had up for Canada Day this week, which said something along the lines of “Loyalty to country is a part of faith.”

  12. 12
    Lofty

    “I swear on this book of lies that I don’t tell porkies like the authors of this rubbish.”
    You have no idea of the epic battles in small town council meeting all over Australia, there are people objecting to starting every meeting with a christian prayer. Tolerant society? Only if you’re properly devout exactly like us.

  13. 13
    Abdul Alhazred

    It’s all very funny until the head lopping starts. :)

  14. 14
    d.c.wilson

    meg@10:

    It’s okay. Most Americans know nothing about our Constitution either.

    Lofty@12:

    So you are just like Americans!

  15. 15
    Pierce R. Butler

    Nobody in the present government Down Under will stand up for barbecued shrimp and gallons of beer?

  16. 16
    StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Most Aussies have condemned these remarks though incl. EdHusic’s immediate political rival Josh Well said Josh Frydenberg here :

    http://www.joshfrydenberg.com.au/guest/InterviewsDetails.aspx?id=276

    I’ve added my own message of support for Husic on his facebook page myself. I’m not a fan of Islam at all but Muslims who aren’t extremists are fine by me.

  17. 17
    Lofty

    d.c.wilson

    So you are just like Americans!

    Pretty much, the differences are in degree only. Something to do with the fact that the population of Oz is a small fraction of that of the US. We keep our crazies further apart.

  18. 18
    StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Ed Husic on his face book page :

    Ours is a great country with a big heart. Thank you everyone for your tremendous support and phenomenal generosity of spirit.

  19. 19
    meg

    @Pierce – cause we don’t call them shrimp. They are prawns. And you can’t really stand up for gallons of beer – needs to be drunk sitting down. The standing up bit gets hard after a while.

  20. 20
    iangould

    It’s all very funny until the head lopping starts. :) Abdul Alhazred

    You’ll forgive me if I’m more concerned by the actual documented assaults on Australian muslims by bigoted pigfuckers like you than on decapitations that exist only in your tiny diseased brain.

  21. 21
    dingojack

    Synfandel (#6) – Asked “Why is he required to swear at all? If he has so little personal integrity that he’s going to abuse or neglect the office, will an oath stop him?”

    It’s called ‘spin.
    Everyone is already well aware of his total lack of personal integrity. He’s a politician*.

    Dingo
    ——–
    * worse – he’s from the NSW Labor Party. If he didn’t abuse or neglect his office it’d be a fucking miracle!

  22. 22
    Abdul Alhazred

    @20

    Temper, temper.

    Relax.

    For the record, I have never assaulted a Muslim nor fucked a pig.

    ;)

  23. 23
    sailor1031

    “….bigoted pigfuckers like you than on decapitations that exist only in your tiny diseased brain.”

    Way to have an intelligent discussion!

  24. 24
    iangould

    Yeah because tossing out accusations about “head lopping’ are so sophisticated.

    Bigoted fuckwits don’t deserve courtesy.

  25. 25
    iangould

    “For the record, I have never assaulted a Muslim nor fucked a pig.”

    Yes and most of the countless American southerners who supported segregation never burnt a cross.

    Just like most of the American and British anti-Semites who supported and praised Hitler in the 30′s were genuinely horrified when they learnt about the death camps – which didn’t help the Jews who were denied entry into the US and the US because of widespread anti-Jewish prejudice.

  26. 26
    dan4

    22: “Temper, temper”

    Dude who implies that someone being sworn in on the Quran will inevitably leads to “head loppings” is lecturing others about their temperament. Funny stuff.

  27. 27
    had3

    Interesting; I took the head-lopping comment to be sarcasm directed at violence toward Muslims, not by Muslims. That is: the comments by the outraged people were funny, until it leads to violence by those same outraged people. Not the other way around.

  28. 28
    Thumper: Who Presents Boxes Which Are Not Opened

    @had3

    Me too, initially, but AA’s response to the criticism appears to lend weight to the critics’ interpretation. Also the ‘nym “Abdul Alhazred” is a character from Lovecraft who is colloquially known as “The Mad Arab”, which gives pause for thought.

  29. 29
    greg1466

    “Hell i might just have to use snow white and the 7 dwarfs next time i take the oath for australia,” she posted.

    The Bible, the Koran, Snow White…if you are going to swear an oath using a work of fiction, I suppose it doesn’t really matter which one it is.

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