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Jun 21 2013

Coulter: Immigration Reform the End of America

Stop me if you’ve heard this one before: A right winger is declaring that if a policy that she disagrees with is passed, America is “finished.” This is not a repeat from every political debate since the nation began. Actually, it is. Because the number of policies that were supposed to destroy America is virtually limitless, beginning with the passage of the Constitution itself.

Why won’t passing amnesty help Republicans?

Look at California! The state that gave us Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan is now a state where a Republican cannot be elected statewide. Not even attractive, successful businesswomen like Carly Fiorina and Meg Whitman can beat a tired old dinosaur like Jerry Brown or a dried-up prune like Barbara Boxer. The most beautiful state in the union is ruined, and the greatest nation in history is about to be.

So the argument for why America is “finished” is that Republicans might have a harder time getting elected? How compelling.

It’s not just amnesty, but legal immigration that needs to be curtailed to give the mass of immigrants from the last several decades time to make money, get ahead and assimilate to American culture. That’s how you create a Republican: Give him a job. You create a Democrat by giving him welfare. A lot more Americans of all races will need government assistance, thanks to Rubio’s amnesty/mass immigration bill.

The CBO — you know, people who actually study these questions rather than reacting with hyper-partisan emotional fervor — says otherwise.

You will notice the smartest members of Congress – Jeff Sessions, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Steve King – are categorically opposed to the amnesty bill Chuck Schumer has conned Mario Rubio into flacking.

It’s Schumer’s bill! Why is Rubio the one pushing it? Remind me again: Are Princeton and Harvard Law School (Cruz ’92 & ’95) tougher to get into than a non-accredited community college in Florida (Marco Rubio)?

This is an absolutely textbook example of how dishonestly Coulter makes arguments. Cruz is smarter than Rubio and the proof of that is that Cruz went to Princeton and Harvard. But Chuck Schumer also went to Harvard Law School. And Steve King dropped out of Northwest Missouri State University to work construction. So academic credentials define one’s intelligence — except when they don’t.

If the Rubio amnesty bill passes, the country will be finished. There will be no point in fighting for anything anymore.

*yawn* Just like Social Security. And the Civil Rights Act. And Medicare. And same-sex marriage. And…

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  1. 1
    Kevin

    Wait — Coulter’s argument is that because she finds Carly Fiorina and Meg Whitman attractive that somehow demands that we vote for her?

    Um…this isn’t the Miss California pageant, Ann.

  2. 2
    John Pieret

    Go Ann! Poison the well for Rubio, who is one of the more attractive Republicans around (the wingnut’s Obama).

    Maybe next she could do a “full Schlafly” and tell Republicans to “focus on white voters”:

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/05/30/18622471-phyllis-schlafly-urges-gop-to-focus-on-white-voters?lite

    (Warning: the picture accompanying that link may shatter monitors!)

  3. 3
    lldayo

    @Kevin #1 – It worked out well with Sarah Palin, didn’t it?

  4. 4
    d.c.wilson

    Please tell me this means she’ll be moving out of the country soon.

  5. 5
    CaitieCat, getaway driver

    Nice to see she drops the usual self-loathing misogyny into the piece. I honestly feel kind of bad for her, because hating who you are isn’t fun, and she clearly loathes women generally, collectively, and individually. Kinda pathetic, really.

  6. 6
    cptdoom

    *yawn* Just like Social Security. And the Civil Rights Act. And Medicare. And same-sex marriage. And…

    Yeah, and don’t get me started on women who refuse to follow their natural role and remain single.

  7. 7
    Nemo

    the smartest members of Congress – Jeff Sessions, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Steve King

    My head asplode.

  8. 8
    Chiroptera

    Ed Brayton: So the argument for why America is “finished” is that Republicans might have a harder time getting elected?

    In fact, that sounds more like “a good start” to me.

  9. 9
    Stacey C.

    Did everyone see the recent XKCD?
    http://xkcd.com/1227/ (make sure to hover over the image to get the alt text)
    It’s been going on forever…

  10. 10
    doublereed

    The GOP could try appealing to immigrants…

  11. 11
    Modusoperandi

    You will notice the smartest members of Congress – Jeff Sessions, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Steve King…”

    You will also notice that words mean nothing anymore, bicycle rainbow chestnut.
     
    CaitieCat “Nice to see she drops the usual self-loathing misogyny into the piece. I honestly feel kind of bad for her, because hating who you are isn’t fun, and she clearly loathes women generally, collectively, and individually. Kinda pathetic, really.”
    It’s Ann Coulter. The only person Ann Coulter loves is Ann Coulter (and, even then, she’d turn on herself in a second if there was money in it).
     
    doublereed “The GOP could try appealing to immigrants…”
    For the last time, THIS IS THEIR MINORITY OUTREACH PROGRAM. Sheesh.

  12. 12
    Don Williams

    1) An argument is not stupid just because Ann Coulter makes it. Although I certainly understand the presumption.

    2) I remember Bill Clinton making some of the same arguments for NAFTA that is being made for the
    current immigration bill. But last time I checked, the World Richest Mexican –billionaire Carlos Slim –wasn’t leading an economic revival up at Detroit — or anywhere else in the USA.

    3) But maybe I’m mistaken. Maybe we have not had massive 15% unemployment in the black community for the past 5 years of the Obama Administration. Maybe the American median wage has not falled through the floor –instead of rising. And the profound economic reasoning that says admitting 20 million more people will encourage our plutocrats to create jobs for our 25 million LONG TERM unemployed — well, that somehow escapes me.

    But then I didn’t understand Larry Summers and Robert Rubin’s objective, disinterested economic arguments for repealing Glass Steagall either.

  13. 13
    roggg

    You guys are all missing the diamond in this rough. If the bill passes, nothing’s worth fighting for anymore. Maybe Coulter will be finished with her trolling asinine punditry. I think this alone makes immigration reform a worthy cause.

  14. 14
    gregbrouelette

    I sincerely hope and believe that Coulter is a performance artist who’s act is to say the most ridiculous things possible and then see how far into the crazy she can go while still having Republicans support her.

    At some point she will “come out” and tell us that it’s all been an act.

    Some day . . . soon . . . please?

  15. 15
    marcus

    MO@11 THIS IS THEIR MINORITY OUTREACH PROGRAM!
    I mean it’s not like angry old white men are a majority in this country FFS!

  16. 16
    slc1

    Carly Fiorina, the incompetent CEO who nearly ran Hewlett Packard into the ground and was fired for her incompetence?

  17. 17
    slc1

    Re Don Williams @ #12

    Ole Don gives his impression of Ross Perot (remember the giant sucking sound of jobs heading south into Mexico). Unfortunately, they didn’t head south into Mexico, they headed West to China, with Steven Jobs leading the way.

  18. 18
    slc1

    Re Don Williams @ #12

    Of course, ole Don’s negative opinion of Larry Summers and Robert Rubin have not the slightest thing to do with their ethnicity. Not a bit of it, perish the thought.

  19. 19
    d.c.wilson

    1) An argument is not stupid just because Ann Coulter makes it. Although I certainly understand the presumption.

    Well, let’s be fair and list all of the intelligent arguments Ann has made. I’ll start.

    Um

    Uh

    I got nothing.

  20. 20
    Don Williams

    Re d.c. at 19:
    1) Oh, I don’t know. Let’s take one of her arguments:
    “Amnesty will lead to the immiseration of millions of Americans as low-wage workers will be out of work entirely or working at meaningless low-wage jobs. In either event they’ll be required to depend on government to get by. The 30 million Hispanics who already are citizens or legal residents will be in the same boat as the rest of us. ”
    BLS June report says Hispanic unemployment is 9.1 % — but if you add in the 10 million part time and discouraged workers to the 12 million officially counted as unemployed, then the real rate is probably
    closer to 16%. So it is far to ask how unemployed Hispanics are going to view the Democratic immigration
    bill. The Democratic leadership’s indifference toward the misery of their fellow Americans — their fellow Democrats in many cases — is contemptible.

    2) And Coulter’s argument for why some Republican Senators are supporting more immigrants is rather honest — more honest than so called Democratic “activists”:

    “Because the plutocrats want it. All the rich Republican donors want cheap labor, and their high-priced lobbyists have convinced the stupidest Republicans that it’s a great idea. As Jorge Borjas of Harvard has pointed out, amnesty transfers wealth from the bottom of society to the top. ”

    3) Plus, unlike Democratic “activists” Coulter is not coy about naming who the plutocrats are on the Republican side:

    “it will only help [Republican politicans] in the next few election cycles when they are paid back in large campaign contributions from the plutocrats – Foster Freize, Sheldon Adelson, the Koch brothers, Mark Zuckerberg, etc., etc. ”

    Anybody want to make up a list of the 100 or so billionaires who own the Democratic Party?

  21. 21
    caseyboucher

    This makes me proud that one of my pseudonyms was just recently banned from WND for injecting too much sense into their comments.

  22. 22
    d.c.wilson

    Don Williams:

    So, where was the intelligent part of her argument?

  23. 23
    reddiaperbaby1942

    What I find particularly puzzling is that she refers to Nixon and Reagan as people to be PROUD of. I know the current crop of right-wing Republicans idolizes Reagan (for reasons passing understanding), but NIXON?

  24. 24
    iangould

    “2) I remember Bill Clinton making some of the same arguments for NAFTA that is being made for the
    current immigration bill. But last time I checked, the World Richest Mexican –billionaire Carlos Slim –wasn’t leading an economic revival up at Detroit — or anywhere else in the USA.”

    NAFTA passage was followed by almost a decade of rapid economic growth, declining unemployment and rising real wages.

    You might as well blame the post-2008 rise in unemployment on the War of 1812, the 23 Amendment, the Smoot-Hawleyt Tariff or segregation.

    “3) But maybe I’m mistaken. Maybe we have not had massive 15% unemployment in the black community for the past 5 years of the Obama Administration. Maybe the American median wage has not falled through the floor –instead of rising. And the profound economic reasoning that says admitting 20 million more people will encourage our plutocrats to create jobs for our 25 million LONG TERM unemployed — well, that somehow escapes me.”

    The majority of illegal immigrants in the US are already in the US workforce (most of those not in the work force are minors). Adding “20 million more people” only happens in the lurid imaginations of the far-right.

    Oh and the main reason “median income” (more accurately “median household income”) has been declining in the US is that the growth in US households has come primarily from the growth in retirees living alone. It’s a statistical artifact.

    Real average hourly wages in te US are going up: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bls.gov%2Fnews.release%2Fpdf%2Frealer.pdf&ei=IzbFUdqrJczPiAez1ICoAw&usg=AFQjCNFAwLikJVsE0cHNyYGWMPL3SswI-A&sig2=H1xAWTtDpZ3YOF5mQ5QQHg&bvm=bv.48293060,d.aGc

  25. 25
    iangould

    “You guys are all missing the diamond in this rough. If the bill passes, nothing’s worth fighting for anymore. Maybe Coulter will be finished with her trolling asinine punditry. I think this alone makes immigration reform a worthy cause.”

    So long as there’s a market for moral panics, there will be people like Coulter willing to supply the demand.

  26. 26
    Modusoperandi

    reddiaperbaby1942 “What I find particularly puzzling is that she refers to Nixon and Reagan as people to be PROUD of. I know the current crop of right-wing Republicans idolizes Reagan (for reasons passing understanding), but NIXON?”
    Sure. What better symbol of resentment, paranoia and bitterness is there than Nixon?

  27. 27
    Don Williams

    Re iangould at 24: “the main reason “median income” (more accurately “median household income”) has been declining in the US is that the growth in US households has come primarily from the growth in retirees living alone”

    1) This, of course, is a crock of SHIT!

    There has been a massive collapse in real median income in the past decade across the working age groups whereas retiree median income has been relatively stable –probably due to Social Security’s inflation adjustment and some fraction of the bailout $Trillions pumped into Wall Street sloshing into retirement savings.

    2) Median Income (2011 dollars) Declines from (Peak Year) to 2011 by Age Bracket

    Source: Table H-10AR “Age of Head of Householder: All Races by Median and Mean Income”
    US Census Bureau ; at
    http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/historical/household/

    1) 15 to 24 years: (2000) (36,370- 30,460)/ 36370 = 16.2% Decline

    2) 25 to 34 (2000) (58007-50774)/ 58007 = 12.4% Decline

    3) 35 to 44 (2000) (70216- 61916)/ 70216 = 11.8% decline

    4) 45 to 54 ( 1999) (76,806 – 63861)/76806 = 16.9% decline

    5) 55 to 64 ( 1999) (60288 – 55937)/60288 = 7.2% decline (because they’ve already taken a massive
    wage cut due to age discrimination )

    6) 65 and over (1999) (30772 – 33118) / 30772 = GAIN of 7.6% (probably because Social Security
    adjusted for inflation and their income is low anyway.)

    NOTE that this is a REVERSAL of the historical trend of rising incomes in the previous decades

    See http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/charts/census/median-household-income-age-brackets.html?household-income-by-age-bracket-median-real.gif

  28. 28
    Don Williams

    Iangould’s post at 24 illustrates the points I made earlier about the “Technique of Liberal Failure”.

    The info I posted in 27 is widely available on the Internet — easily available to anyone who took an
    objective look at the situation of the American worker. But not obvious, perhaps, if one’s focus is
    on apologizing for the failures of the Obama Administration and of the 111th Democratic Congress.

    Iangould probably hasn’t noticed the major spike in suicides among middle–aged Americans either.

    So tell me again –why is the Democratic Party strongly focused on admitting 20 million new jobseekers –instead of improving the life of their fellow countrymen?

    Why yell so loudly about “racist White Southern Republicans” when you are stabbing black Americans in the back in order to pander to foreigners of a particular ethnic group?

  29. 29
    iangould

    Don Williams @ 28 is a typical example of Don Williams Failure.

    “Trillions of dollars in Wall Street Bailouts”?

    Take a look at Table H-11 on the page you cite Doug, the one that shows that since 2007, there’s been an increase in 4 million “No earner” households and of 2 million in “single earner” households. Much of that is due to unemployment but much of it is due to the increase in retirees as can be seen from Table H-12 showing the growth in single person households.

    If households are getting smaller on average Don, what would you expect to happen to average household income?

    You also ignore, since it doesn’t support your theory, that wile the incomes of those aged over 65 has increased it’s still only ca. 2/3s of that of those aged 55-64 and slightly over half that of people aged 45-54.

  30. 30
    Don Williams

    iangould at 29:

    1) Retirees could take to sleeping on top of flagpoles at night — and it would still have NOTHING
    to do with the massive collapse in incomes for workers in the five age brackets UNDER age 65.

    The Census data I cited in 27 breaks income out by age of head of household — it does NOT
    lump retirees in with workers aged 25-34, etc.

  31. 31
    slc1

    Re Don Williams @ #30

    Ian Gould lives in France and we all know the type of people who live in France. Frogs!

  32. 32
    slc1

    Re #31

    Dammit, I was thinking of Laurent Weppe who is a Frog. I believe that Ian Gould lives in Australia. My bad. Of course, he is also a Jino and Israel basher so maybe ole Don shouldn’t be too hard on him.

  33. 33
    Don Williams

    What do you have against the French, SLC?

    If they hadn’t given Israel nuclear weapons, the Egyptian Brotherhood would be bitchslapping your beloved Bibi and taking his lunch money.

  34. 34
    CaitieCat, getaway driver

    Gee, Don, so nice of you to drop by and shit some misogyny into the thread to go along with your endless conspiracy-mongering. What a senseless waste of pixels.

  35. 35
    democommie

    Oh, goodness, what I’ve missed!

    Don Williams is possibly the only commenter who could make me YEARN for the clear, honest and self-evidently geniussy arguments of “The thread-pirate mroberts”.

  36. 36
    slc1

    Re Don Williams @ #33

    What does Don Williams have against Australians? By the way, the derogatory term “frog” as applied to Frenchmen/women has to do with the French delicacy of frog legs. It’s a term much favored by the English. They usually refer to England as perfidious Albion.

    By the way, it is quite true that France built the Dimona reactor in Israel. However, the Mossad stole the ingredients for making U235 and Plutonium from a number of countries, including the USA.

    Re democommie @ CaitieCat

    Quit picking on my bud Don Williams. I find his screeds endlessly amusing.

  37. 37
    Don Williams

    Re CaitieCat at 24:

    1) It’s my ..er.. schtick, CaitieCat. Whenever I want to demonstrate the irrelevance and or hypocrisy of
    liberals, I leave a little politically incorrect hook in my comments. An opportunity for them to evade
    addressing the Facts of Substance by convening a chickenshit kangaroo court of political correctness
    focused on a totally irrelevant point.

    2) For example, my post at 27 cited FACTS from the Census Bureau, not “conspiracy mongering”.

    And given that 50 percent of the people have income BELOW the median — and that many of those Americans are single moms– then you should have been interested in those FACTS if your feminist tribe actually gave a hairy rodent’s posterior for women’s welfare.

    Versus shilling for some Rich Men’s Democratic puppets under the guise of solidarity with one grubby little self-defined clique or another.

    To a sincere person, The slide of many women into unemployment and poverty is far more important than my use of the word “bitchslap.” Unless you are trying to ignore or coverup the situation in which those women find themselves.

    3) Actually I am not criticizing you so much as I am criticizing your patrons — the people who pour the political message du jour into your brain with a spoon. It’s wouldn’t be fair to judge you indifferent to the welfare of your fellow Americans — given that you apparently subject your political opinions to the same critical analysis applied by a gap-toothed high school dropout in rural Mississippi watching Fox News.

  38. 38
    CaitieCat, getaway driver

    Take your patronizing, disingenuous, misogynistic bullshit and shove it back in the cakehole it spilled out of, Williams.

    PNG, dumbass.

  39. 39
    Don Williams

    Oh, dear. You mean I .. I.. might not be popular with your posse?

    ha ha ha How old are you? 16?

    Mean Girls.

  40. 40
    slc1

    Actually, if Don Williams is so worried about unemployment of working class people, perhaps he should consider the vice of off-shoring where jobs are sent to China, among other places by billionaires like the late Steven Jobs. Ross Perot was 1/2 right, there is a giant sucking sound of jobs disappearing, he was wrong about the destination, China, not Mexico.

    I have a flash for ole Don. Try to find clothing made in the USA, try to find small electronic appliances made in the USA, try to find computer equipment made in the USA, try to find TV sets made in the USA. As they say, rots of ruck.

    He might point to the Walton clan, scions of Sam Walton, who run Walmart. According to a book on Walmart published a few years ago, that criminal conspiracy puts heavy pressure on its suppliers to cut costs to the extent that they have no alternative but to off-shore production. Does provide low prices for those still lucky enough to have jobs.

  41. 41
    samharris

    Can’t decide which is crazier – that Coulter thinks Meg Whitman is attractive or that she thinks Steve King is one of the smartest members of congress. It HAS to be an act, right?

  42. 42
    Don Williams

    1) Actually, I have been long opposed to the offshoring of jobs. I think our tax laws should penalize that –instead, they encourage it.

    Steve Jobs is not the only one — I remember seeing in a Dell 10-K years ago that Michael Dell was laying off 10,000 of the US workers who had made him a billionaire –while hiring 12,000 foreign workers. At least he was honest about it — IBM and HP were almost certainly do the same. But that is why I don’t shed tears when I read that Chinese Lenovo is eating Dell’s lunch.

    Of course, Lenovo could grow rapidly because US businessmen were happy to ship US technology –developed with US tax dollars and tax exemptions — to China. The US national interest is the first thing to be cast aside when profits are at stake.

    2) Both Republicans and Democrats support that. Bill Clinton supported it. And I still remember Ronald Reagan letting 100,000 UAW workers be thrown out on the street by Jap imports.

    I remember an assembly back in 1991 when two guys from the CIA’s Clandestine Service came to lecture cleared employees about the regulations prohibiting US technology transfer abroad (probably because they knew the massive budget cuts and personnel cuts that were coming.) At one point they noted that they would be keeping an eye on us. At which point, I noted that much tech transfer from Silicon Valley was being done legally due to influence of Fortune 500 lobbyists.

    One of the CIA guys snarked that maybe I should run for office. Whereupon I snarked back that I would prefer to do like Ronald Reagan had done — let 100,000 US workers be thrown out into unemployment and then go to Tokyo and collect $2 Million from the Japs for a 20 minute speech. At which point the CIA guys jumped up in alarm and said they didn’t discuss politics. heh heh

    Assholes. The people they were lecturing had devoted their lives to ensuring the Soviet Union didn’t turn 150 US cities into a pile of ashes — and the spooks came and tried to insult us in our own damn building.

  43. 43
    slc1

    Re Don Williams @ #42

    I never meant to imply that Seven Jobs was the only one. The rest of those bums, like Michael Dell and the CEOs of HP and IBM weren’t at all shy about off-shoring (of course, ole Don specifically calling out Mikey had nothing to do with his ethnicity, not a bit of it, perish the thought).

    However, the Walton heirs are worse then Dell et all. They don’t manufacture a fuckken thing, they just force all their suppliers to offshore.

    Interesting how China gave Obama the finger in allowing Snowden to leave Hong Kong, despite a request for them to arrest them. I wonder how much Snowdens disclosure of NSA hacking into Chinese computer systems influenced their decision. I would bet big money that it wasn’t inconsequential.

  44. 44
    Don Williams

    Yep — that big uproar on Capitol Hill two weeks ago re Chinese hacking of the USA just kind of collapsed into an embarrassed silence, no?

    It’s not that I am all that tenderhearted toward foreigners — but I think only fools pick fights when they are not necessary. And our assholes in Washington constantly cover up the fact that they themselves PROVOKE a lot of the foreign actions against this country of which they then complain.

    And they do so not because it is in the national interest but because they are whoring for some business interests or billionaires’ egos.

  45. 45
    Don Williams

    1) Ever notice WHERE Walmart came from?

    2) Ever notice WHO was governor of that state during Walmart’s rise to power and wealth?

    3) Ever notice whose wife was on Walmart’s Board of Directors?

    4) Ever notice the current net worth of those people? –who have
    spent much of their life in government service working for the Little People?

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0312-01.htm

    5) I’ve heard that Sam Walton did not just dictate to his suppliers — that
    he also dictated to the CHINESE. Re WHO in America they would sell to.

    Which is interesting. That’s .. that’s …
    Presidential level power. heh heh

  46. 46
    Don Williams

    President Bill Clinton to Congress:
    “China with more than a billion people is home to the largest potential market in the world… If Congress makes the right decision, our companies will be able to sell and distribute products in China made by American workers on American soil, without being forced to relocate manufacturing to China. …We will be able to export products without exporting jobs.”

    So how is that working out?

    And who can forget Walmart’s “Made in America” campaign –while instructing the Chinese precisely in how to make products for America that would be imported via Sam Walton’s covert PERL middleman.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/secrets/wmchina.html

    Good thing US workers have Democrats looking out for them, huh?

  47. 47
    slc1

    Re Don Williams @ #44

    It’s not that I am all that tenderhearted toward foreigners

    Especially foreigners from a certain Middle East country that shall remain nameless.

  48. 48
    Don Williams

    Well, when Bibi finds those nukes of Saddam’s maybe I will be ready to sing Kumbaya.

    http://www.potomac-airfield.com/netanyahu.htm

  49. 49
    slc1

    Re Don Williams

    Speaking of whores, attached is a link to a column in today’s WP by Jackson Diehl informing us how prestigious US universities are selling out their claims for academic freedom for the right to set up satellite campuses in the the Gulf Oil States, Singapore, and China. Apparently, this can be very profitable for these “institutions”. The muck da mucks running those schools can accrue millions from this exercise for their schools. Of course if they happen to have to throw one of their faculty under the bus every once in a while, well, that’s life in the big city. They didn’t get their brown lips from sucking doorknobs.

    Interestingly, in addition to the usual whores like Yale, NYU, and Cornell, I notice the name of one Carnegie Mellon University. Now where have I heard something about that school a while ago. Oh yes, one of our commentors informed us that his son was going their. I can’t say that I remember which commenter (he he) it was, perhaps ole Don can refresh my recollection.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/jackson-diehl-yale-nyu-sacrifice-academic-freedom/2013/06/23/4632c5b6-d9c0-11e2-a016-92547bf094cc_story.html

  50. 50
    Don Williams

    Old news, SLC. The private universities have been whoring themselves out for the past 200 years. Harvard’s endowment was built on the slave trade — and Harvard’s pastors at the time had as much of a problem with that as the Southern Baptist Convention.

    Like medieval monasteries, the Ivy League got those billion dollar endowments by knowing which penises to kiss — the list is long and distinguished. If you want to see a truly hilarious expose of our major economists , look at the documentary “Inside Job” where some of the economists responsible for the Wall Street crash are interviewed (under false pretenses of course, hee hee. You can’t sandbag a Columbia Dean if he sees the punch coming.)

    Being in Pittsburgh, CMU’s endowment is far smaller. I don’t know if that suggests higher virtue or less skillful whoring.

    One thing I think the US government should halt is private universities getting tens of billions from the taxpayers, being exempt from taxes, and then filling many of their openings with foreigners. If the USA is going to “compete” then it is ridiculous to spend US taxpayer money educating the competition. Edward Snowden is doing nothing that the Ivy League hasn’t been doing for decades.

  51. 51
    Don Williams

    For example, look at how Larry Ellison yanked back a $115 Million gift to Harvard after Harvard hurt the feelings of Mr Ellison’s little buddy Larry Summers:

    http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2006/06/29/ellison

    Due to the resulting belt-tightening, some Harvard professors might actually have to WAIT for access to a squash court because new ones were not built. Tears well up as one chokes at the sadness of the situation.

  52. 52
    slc1

    Re Don Williams @ #51

    And, of course, Ellison’s ethnic background had nothing to do with ole Don citing him. Not a bit of it, perish the thought.

    By the way, I notice that the comments on that article seemed to be supportive of Ellison.

    I assume that ole Don wouldn’t be caught dead using Oracle.

  53. 53
    slc1

    Re Don Williams @ #50

    Of course, if the foreign students remain in the US, then they’re helping us “‘compete” aren’t they?

    By the way, ole Don’s old school favors admissions of out of state students, because they pay the full tuition, over instate students. It also discriminates against students from Northern Virginia which has the best high schools in the state. Got to give the red necks a break every so often.

  54. 54
    slc1

    Re Don Williams @ #48

    Readers should be informed that ole Don is jealous of Bibi because he went to MIT and ole Don couldn’t.

  55. 55
    Don Williams

    At 54, SLC fails to note that I was accepted for admission at MIT but could not afford the overpriced tuition.

    Which may explain my fondness for Lenin’s Hanging Order:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Hanging_Order

  56. 56
    Don Williams

    By the way, SLC, do you know why Larry Ellison wants to put the Mark of the Beast on all of us?

    http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2001/10/47788

  57. 57
    slc1

    Re Don Williams @ #54

    Not relevant. Somehow, Bibi, whose family was not wealthy, found a way to afford it (maybe he got scholarships). He was a soccer player in college so maybe he got a soccer scholarship.

    Re Don Williams @ #55

    I don’t recall Ellison ever surpassing Bill Gates or Warren Buffet in net worth, contrary to what the linked article said. As I understand it, he currently sits in 4th place, behind ole Don’s hero, Carlos Slim, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffet.

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