Fake ‘Ex-Terrorist” Babbles About ‘Mystery Babylon’


Fake “ex-terrorist” Walid Shoebat, now a fundie wingnut extraordinaire, has a weird, rambling, incoherent column at the Worldnutdaily about “mystery Babylon” — whatever the hell that is — and how it’s really located in Mecca rather than Rome. Or something.

When it comes to Mystery Babylon, the common theory among many Protestant theologians is to equate it with Rome since according to them Rome is the city of seven hills. Others even equate it with actual Iraq itself since Iraq was where the original Babylon resided. Years ago, several books were even written on Saddam Hussein who supposedly was rebuilding Babylon, and Christians gulped up the books without truly examining the evidence. Saddam was simply rebuilding a tourist attraction where Nineveh once stood. The project was later abandoned, and Saddam died on the gallows and all these prophecy books with him.

But when presenting a multitude of biblical evidence, people still angrily deny it because they etched in their minds a verse or two they say prove it’s still Rome while adhering to a centuries-old theory initiated by Martin Luther. That plus the fact today’s Catholics do not bite. In fact, a clue to the real Babylon was just presented in an article by WND’s Aaron Klein when he stated: “Forces in the Persian Gulf and Arab intelligence services have noted the establishment of Iranian missile launch sites aimed in the direction of Saudi Arabia and Qatar, according to Egyptian and Jordanian intelligence officials speaking to WND.”

Yet no one in the prophecy arena even raised a red flag about the significance of this report; Iran (biblical Elam) must destroy Arabia. In Isaiah 21:9, Isaiah levels a prophetic oracle against Babylon using the same announcement in Revelation 18:1-2 and Revelation 14:8: “Babylon is fallen, is fallen”:

“The burden against Dumah” (Isaiah 21:11)
“The burden against Arabia” (Isaiah 21:13)
“All the glory of Kedar will fail” (Isaiah 21:16).

These are all in Arabia, which is destroyed by Iran “Elam” (Isaiah 21:2).

There has been an immense oversight by many in the field of biblical eschatology…

Yes, there has. They’ve overlooked the fact that this is all total bullshit.

Comments

  1. oranje says

    I think we need to have a TimeCube scale of nonsense. I’ll give this a TC-40. (40 percent as incoherent as TimeCube)

  2. says

    Revelation 15:56 says
    “And there will come a great tide of bullshit, sweeping all before it. And the goats will be amazed. And the faithful will be amazed. And the Randi will be amazed. All will be amazed and will none know whence from it cometh. Yet the believers will believe it.”

  3. says

    That gives me an idea: Barton should write a few new chapters for the bible! That way he could do like whoever wrote the prophecies of Daniel – backdate his biblical history and make his predictions correct. Or his corrections predict.

  4. baal says

    His last name is shoe bat? Oh well, he’s in the wrong line of work. If he could tone down the crazy in person a little, this could possibly be the next dan brown novel. That’d be bucks for Walid.

  5. dingojack says

    Anotherr example of why you should never ever write when you’re off your meds and/or off your face.
    Dingo

  6. ixxu says

    There has been an immense oversight by many in the field of biblical prophetic bovine scatology.

  7. andrewkiener says

    “Christians gulped up the books without truly examining the evidence”… Which gave Walid Shoebat an excellent idea on how to score some cash…

  8. voidhawk says

    So the one in Nineveh was Babylon 1
    Rome was Babylon 2
    Saddam’s tourist attraction was Babylon 3
    Mecca is Babylon 4…

    Therefore the prophecy was fulfilled when Babylon 5 went off the air in 1998. Woe! Woe Babylon (5) has fallen, and among the kingdoms of the geek (whom had inhereted the Earth as foretold by jesus on the Mount) there was a great gnashing of teeth!

  9. says

    “According to them?” Rome has seven hills according to everyone. It’s on all of their tourist brochures. It always amazes me how they go on and on about taking passages of biblical prophecy literally and when they are provided actual text evidence (Like the Babylon mentioned in the Bible has seven hills which makes sense since it was written by crackpots in the Roman Empire complaining about the biggest city they knew) They immediately try to grasp at other irrelevant passages to try to stick their square peg of a point into a round hole. What other city with seven hills could they mean, Seattle?

    Hmm… come to think of it that might have been the real reason Denny Hill was torn down.

  10. says

    Ed sez: “mystery Babylon” — whatever the hell that is

    Mystery Babylon was the name given to the harlot who sits upon seven hills in the book of Revelation. Serious Biblical scholarship says that this was a code to connect Rome to Babylon, either because the writer of Revelation was afraid of persecution by Rome or because he was on some serious drugs when he wrote the book. My personal theory is that it was an early form of sci-fi literature combined with Biblical fanfic.

    Most speculation I heard about this in a church setting didn’t actually question the interpretation that the harlot referred to Rome. Most of the questions were more to the level of, “So where’s the New Rome/New New Babylon to which the passage refers?” or a strained attempt to explain how all the events of the End Times would cycle through Rome on their way to Jerusalem.

  11. matty1 says

    I think the use of ‘beasts’ in Revelation points to it being Book of Daniel fanfic and as with Daniel the author was mythologising the past and present not predicting the future.

  12. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    Echoes of the “Key of David” and ‘Left Behind’ Christian rapture / Armageddonouttahere series rantings here.

    I’ll believe it when I see it.

    Mystery Babylon?

    Yeah, we have archaeologists working on that.

    PS. If one is a certain I. Jones then I’ll concede we *may* be in difficulty!

  13. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    @9. voidhawk :

    Therefore the prophecy was fulfilled when Babylon 5 went off the air in 1998. Woe! Woe Babylon (5) has fallen, and among the kingdoms of the geek (whom had inhereted the Earth as foretold by jesus on the Mount) there was a great gnashing of teeth!

    Woe indeed guddammnit! That was my fave TV SF series ever.

  14. Nick Gotts says

    Saddam was simply rebuilding a tourist attraction where Nineveh once stood. – Walid Shoebat

    Nineveh was the capital of the Assyrian Empire, located on the Upper Tigris. Babylon was (unsurprisingly) the capital of the Babylonian Empire, located on the lower Euphrates. The two were several hundred kilometers apart. In 612 BCE, the combined armies of the Medes, Scyths and Babylonians captured Nineveh and destroyed it, putting an end to the Assyrian Empire.

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