Dumbass Quote of the Day


Ken Hutcherson, pro football player turned bigoted wingnut preacher, doesn’t like gay people. Actually, he really, really hates gay people and wants them oppressed in every imaginable way. And he’s quite upset with another columnist for the Christian Post who praised Jason Collins. So he repeats this tired old bit of idiocy:

Your defense of homosexuality is without merit because it has destroyed every civilization it has touched and that is shameful. Let’s stop with the rhetoric and speak in the truest sense of love, and that is what I am about to do.

Oh yes, this man just radiates “love.” I get so tired of hearing this moronic cliche about homosexuality destroying civilizations. Which ones, Mr. Hutcherson? Name them. Every society since the beginning of time has included gay people. Which civilizations were “touched” by homosexuality and then destroyed by it? Be specific. Offer evidence. You can’t, for two reasons: A) it isn’t true and B) you’re a moron.

Comments

  1. Lofty says

    The idealised, ordered and paternalistic civilisation of his childhood has been destroyed. Boo hoo.

  2. Randomfactor says

    Whereas those societies which actively persecuted homosexuals flourished.

    Like the Third Reich…

  3. says

    Off the top of my head, it has destroyed:
    Norway
    Netherlands
    Canada
    Belgium
    Iceland.

    They are completely destroyed. Try to even find them on the map! See? Gone.

  4. says

    Well, Ancient Greece was destroyed 2500 years ago (after accepting ephebophilia as a male social norm for hundreds of years), and the western half of the Roman Empire fell to wave after wave of barbarians (but only after homosexuality had been outlawed by that new-fangled Christian religion.) The Manichaeans and other Gnostic religions promoted homosexuality as a way to enjoy the pleasures of this world without entrapping more souls in the world; the Christians won that battle and the Manichaeans were wiped out. Many Asian cultures saw bisexuality as the norm until… yup, the arrival of Christians and their teachings of shame. Many First Nations in North America accepted homosexuality and bisexuality until they were destroyed by… hmm… I’m starting to see a pattern here.

  5. shouldbeworking says

    Off the top of my head, it has destroyed:
    Norway
    Netherlands
    Canada
    Belgium
    Iceland.

    They are completely destroyed. Try to even find them on the map! See? Gone.

    This is especially true for graduated of the Whirled Nut Daily school of geography.

  6. lldayo says

    @Gregory

    So, basically, replace the word “homosexuality” with the word “christianity” in Hutcherson’s quote and it would be correct?

  7. matty1 says

    You want evidence? Every single person who had gay sex over 150 years ago is now dead. That’s the quality of evidence we can offer.

  8. grumpyoldfart says

    Sadly, there are tens of millions of ratbag American Christians who will agree with every word he said.

  9. dugglebogey says

    As always, when some guy is this anti-gay he either had a boyfriend, has a boyfriend, or wants a boyfriend.

    It’s simple psychology.

  10. Nick Gotts (formerly KG) says

    As always, when some guy is this anti-gay he either had a boyfriend, has a boyfriend, or wants a boyfriend.

    It’s simple psychology fucking bullshit. – dugglebogey

    FIFY.

    You do realize that you’re saying it’s a subset of homosexual men* who are primarily responsible for homophobia, don’t you? Does anything about that strike you as problematic?

    BTW, democommie, if you’re around, note that this is a confirmation of my claim that this trope is absolutely routine when any particularly egregious piece of homophobia in discussed.

    *I use this term, not “gay men”, because the latter generally implies self-identification.

  11. Nick Gotts (formerly KG) says

    Gah! Strike fail. Reposting.

    As always, when some guy is this anti-gay he either had a boyfriend, has a boyfriend, or wants a boyfriend.

    It’s simple psychology fucking bullshit. – dugglebogey

    FIFY.

    You do realize that you’re saying it’s a subset of homosexual men* who are primarily responsible for homophobia, don’t you? Does anything about that strike you as problematic?

    BTW, democommie, if you’re around, note that this is a confirmation of my claim that this trope is absolutely routine when any particularly egregious piece of homophobia in discussed.

    *I use this term, not “gay men”, because the latter generally implies self-identification.

  12. D. C. Sessions says

    Ed, every society that has ever existed has (as you yourself say) had homosexuals. Of those, there are two subtypes:

    1) Those that are no longer around (e.g the Roman Empire) — proof that homosexuality destroys societies!
    2) Those have not yet been destroyed. Their time will come.

    Thus, history proves him correct.

  13. kantalope says

    It has been years ago but it still makes me giggle. Local high school paper had the audacity to mention that there were gay students. School board goes ballistic. I decide to go to the meeting because I have never really understood the problem. Anyway – one of the school board members is nattering on about the eeeeevvvvillllls of homosexuality when he says something like “and that’s why the people on the island of Lesbos died off.”

    And all I could think at the time was….Whut? I was so stunned by the stupid I could not even laugh.

    And as for which civilizations were destroyed: you have the well documented Sodom AND Gomorrah. So, that is two. I believe the videos are available on youtube. And then apparently – Lesbos. Died off cause the gay sex was so good no babies were born there. So, there is that. Oh. And Noah’s flood. Since that happened – and god took credit – that was because of the gay too.

  14. says

    You know, I’ve always been puzzled by the Sodom and Gomorrah thing. Because, OK, the people of Sodom wanted to screw the angels who visited Lot’s family and so they were destroyed.

    But wait — that’s not “sodomy”, that’s “angel-omy”…or something.

    And how did Gomorrah get pulled into this? I don’t even know what gomorrahy is for crying out loud. Would I like it?

    That whole story is very upsetting. Especially the part later where Lot’s daughters get him drunk so they can get pregnant. TWICE!!!

    Icky. Very icky. Apparently god is OK with incest; but only after you’ve survived a genocide.

  15. laurentweppe says

    and the western half of the Roman Empire fell to wave after wave of barbarians

    Actually, the Western half of the Roman Empire fell because its upper-class of big landlords proved incapable of dealing with diminishing returns provoked by soil exhaustion. When the Barbarian arrived, the disagregation of the Western Roman Empire was already well under way.

    The thing is, our current upper-class of stocklords is equaly incapable of dealing with similar prolems today.

  16. naturalcynic says

    @15:

    Apparently god is OK with incest; but only after you’ve survived a genocide.

    Well, duh, what do you think Noah’s family did?

  17. martinc says

    I think it’s cool that American college football teams name themselves after the inhabitants of ancient cities, like USC Trojans, and San Jose State Spartans. I can’t wait for a university team to be called the Sodomites. Go, you Sodomites!

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