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FRC Prays to Stop Marriage Equality in Minnesota

The Minnesota House of Representatives voted in favor of a bill to legalize same-sex marriage in that state and the Family Research Council is firing up their prayer warriors to keep it from becoming law because, “It will require divine intervention.”

Dear Praying Minnesotan,

Please activate your prayer team NOW, and encourage your friends to come to the Capitol on Thursday!

We are on the verge of having same-sex “marriage” legalized in Minnesota. Minnesota House leadership has announced that they will debate and vote on the bill to legalize same-sex “marriage” on Thursday, May 9, 2013.

This means that House leadership is confident they have the votes to pass the bill. But, with your help and the help of your church, we still can defeat this assault on God’s design for marriage.

To stop the redefinition of marriage in our state, the minds of 1 or 2 House members who’ve told leadership they’ll vote Yes need to be changed. We are doing all we humanly can to change those minds, but that’s not enough. It will require divine intervention. If a king’s heart is “a stream of water in the hand of the Lord,” to turn wherever He wills (Proverbs 21:1), then surely the hearts of MN state legislators can be turned according to His will also.
At this point we need two things:

1. To get faithful believers praying for the minds and hearts of Representative Tim Faust (Hinckley) and Representative Joe Radinovich (Crosby) to be changed, and

2. To get as many people as possible to the Capitol on Thursday for a visible show of support for marriage.
Please ask your congregation to make the time to come to the Capitol in St. Paul for this Last Stand for Marriage on Thursday.

Guess what? It didn’t work. Both houses of the legislature passed it and the governor will sign it today. Did not enough people pray? I mean, millions of people have been praying for years to prevent marriage equality in many states and yet it keeps passing. Does God not care? Or does he actually support same-sex marriage? Or does he not exist and thus your prayers are as useless as throwing salt over your shoulder? None of these questions will occur to any of the people praying, of course, but they damn well should.

And what ever happened to free will? They constantly invoke free will as an excuse to evade the problem of evil, that God lets us have free will to do what we want so therefore he can’t stop a rapist or Hitler. But he can change the mind of a legislator to prevent gay people from getting equal rights? This whole prayer idea is really quite nonsensical and incoherent.

Comments

  1. Doug Little says

    Well this is great news! Add another state to the list, care to update your 2020 prediction Ed?

  2. coragyps says

    “If a king’s heart is “a stream of water in the hand of the Lord,” to turn wherever He wills…”

    Eewwwww……..

  3. zippythepinhead says

    Your headline should have read, “FRC Preyed to Stop Marriage Equality”. Oops, I meant “prayed”. Really, really, I did.

  4. says

    “Activate your prayer team”…that’s hilarious!

    Did anyone else get a “turn on the Bat Signal” vibe from that?

    Holy Ineffectual, Batman!

  5. david says

    “Or does he not exist and thus your prayers are as useless as throwing salt over your shoulder?” If you throw salt over shoulder, you could melt snow off the sidewalks, and then more people can get out and vote.

  6. carlie says

    But this way if they had “won”, then they would say it wasn’t that several legislators voted from the cynical pragmatism of looking at their voter base and calculating their support, it was from THE HAND OF GOD via their DIRECT ACTIONS IN PRAYER WE ARE SO AWESOME.

  7. Randomfactor says

    I, for one, am grateful they prayed. Otherwise, how would god have known what NOT to do?

  8. davidct says

    Let the FRC pray all they want. It is certainly much better than actually doing something. If god is truly omniscient, it knows what will happen and whatever happens it will be its will – right? Funny how it’s only god’s will if it agrees with what you want.

  9. Johnny Vector says

    the minds of 1 or 2 House members who’ve told leadership they’ll vote Yes need to be changed

    The vote was 75-59. I think it was more than 1 or 2.

    Also, any other Genesis fans out there with Supper’s Ready stuck in their heads? Something tells me I better activate my prayer capsule!

  10. Doug Little says

    The power of prayer, Assembling groups of people for no good reason since 4500BC*

    *Depending on religious affiliation.

  11. tubi says

    Both Faust and Radinovich voted “Yes.” Perhaps God hardened their hearts instead? Who the fuck knows with that guy.

  12. tubi says

    Well this is great news! Add another state to the list, care to update your 2020 prediction Ed?

    Some friends and I have been debating which states will be the last to enact marriage equality. So far the leaders are Georgia, Mississippi, and South Carolina, with Arizona coming up on the outside.

  13. cptdoom says

    Not only did FRC try to pray away the gay (weddings), but Michele Bachmann prayed too. Who will now protect her “traditional marriage” to Marcus?

  14. says

    And what ever happened to free will? They constantly invoke free will as an excuse to evade the problem of evil, that God lets us have free will to do what we want so therefore he can’t stop a rapist or Hitler. But he can change the mind of a legislator to prevent gay people from getting equal rights? This whole prayer idea is really quite nonsensical and incoherent.

    I remember one time back in the 90′s when Wicca was featured in a media fad, and I was moving away from Christianity. A Wiccan, in response to the outcries against witchcraft, claimed that what they do isn’t any different than prayer. The irony was that such protestations gradually made me see prayer as witchcraft, and just as fake. The more ritualism I saw in Christianity, the less appealing it was.

  15. abb3w says

    @13, tubi

    Some friends and I have been debating which states will be the last to enact marriage equality. So far the leaders are Georgia, Mississippi, and South Carolina, with Arizona coming up on the outside.

    Nate Silver’s model puts at the end (slowest first) Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, Arkansas, South Carolina, and Oklahoma.

    However, I expect the issue to be rendered moot rather sooner, when Nevada’s legalization adds gay marriage to their straight marriage tourism (circa 2016 or so?) and the federal government passes a law requiring states recognize marriages granted by the others (some time between 2015 and 2017).

  16. typecaster says

    with Arizona coming up on the outside.

    Interestingly, I saw an article over at TPM today that said a slight majority in Arizona support gay marriage.

  17. markr1957 says

    I see what the problem is here – you forgot to elect a king of Minnesota!

    Prayer – how to do nothing and still think you’re helping.

  18. Draken says

    Both Faust and Radinovich voted “Yes.”

    But Faust sold his soul to the devil, so maybe that was to be expected.

  19. John Horstman says

    Messaging note: the phrase “marriage equality” is extremely disingenuous, in much the same way the label “pro-life” is. Proponents of ‘same-sex’ marriage (I would argue that it’s more accurate to describe them as opponents of restricting marriage to couples who are legally-identified as being different sexes within a sex-binary legal system, but that’s pretty wordy) are mostly decidedly opposed to actual marriage equality, which is only possible with no legal recognition of marriage at all. They tend to want to preserve institutionalized forms of marital privilege and simply extend them to another small group of people: same-sex couples. This denies equal application of the law to single people, people with family or household arrangements built around more than two (usually sexually-involved) adults, close relatives (e.g. siblings) who form family or household units, etc. Marriage itself is a fundamentally privileging concept, rendering “marriage equality” oxymoronic. While I fully support deprivileging heterosexual couples, I don’t really think additionally privileging gay couples is a step toward that goal, since heterosexual couples are still privileged and now homosexual couples are as well, which helps to further-institutionalize the system of privilege. That said, simply removing gender language from marriage law is entirely a step in the right direction, but only a very small one. At any rate, unless a person, group, policy, etc. actually supports universal equality under marriage law (which, again, is really only possible by dismantling marriage law entirely), please do not describe it as supporting “marriage equality”; it’s in support of same-sex marriage or removing sex restrictions from marriage, as appropriate.

  20. dingojack says

    John Horstman – there is really only one, simple response to your post: – bullshit.
    Marriage equality means that all marriages are considered equally, the composition of the sexes involved in this binary union is not really apposite. The rights. or otherwise, of unmarried persons (such as myself) are not at all relevant.
    Try again.
    Dingo

  21. freemage says

    Horstman: Dingojack dealt with the unmarried angle; I’m gonna call bullshit on the polygamous angle. Yes, Poly unions are currently unrecognized. There’s a few reasons for this:

    1: Structurally, poly unions add several additional difficulties in one of the key areas of ‘privilege’ that we grant to married couples–namely, defaults for inheritance, dissolution, parental rights and so on. So simply adding them to the legal-recognition mix is going to require a lot of effort and time. Recognizing this fact doesn’t make supporters of SSM in any way less supportive of equality.

    2: There are genuine, studied benefits to a society that supports marriage contracts–married couples tend to be more law-abiding, and less prone to end up in a poverty cycle. It is therefore in the legitimate interest of the state to support marriage as an institution. We’ve now received scientific confirmation that at least one marriage ‘boon’–namely, the welfare of children of two-parent households–carries over to SSM. Thus, the extension of support to SSM is supported by the basic premise. We lack similar studies (at least, I’ve not seen them cited by bitter poly posters complaining about being left in the lurch) regarding the benefits of poly households. In fact, the only real model we’ve got so far are the fundamentalist Mormon and Muslim polygynous households, which suggest that polygyny is, in fact, a disaster for the women, and no real treat for the kids.

    In short, gay couples put in the time and effort to establish that their model of living was just as deserving of recognition as straight couples’ are. Poly folk have yet to achieve that. I do look forward to the day when they do; I’m a supporter, in the long-term, of extending the privileges of marriage to other functional structures. But that work does need to be put in.

  22. D. C. Sessions says

    So far the leaders are Georgia, Mississippi, and South Carolina, with Arizona coming up on the outside.

    Arizona voters are relatively moderate — it’s our State Legislature that’s batshit insane.

    Consider that we have more Democrats than Republicans in the US House of Representatives, that our previous Governor was Janet Napolitano, and that Jeff Flake only became Senator by a modest margin — and is now the most unpopular Senator in the country thanks to his vote against cloture on the background check amendment.

    Bottom line: the Right here is more of the pseudolibertarian pocketbook variety than it is the Bible-humping type.

    It won’t take that much around here.

  23. frog says

    I would rather these idiots pray than vote. Pray all you want, to, idiots! Pray harder! Pray particularly hard on the second Tuesday after a Monday in November–pray so hard you don’t leave the house at all that day!

  24. slc1 says

    Re D. C. Sessions @ #27

    Flake, despite his unfortunate name, is one of the saner Rethuglicans, which is a pretty low bar.

  25. stubby says

    I’m watching the signing ceremony on local tv right now. Just six months after republicans thought they could pass an amendment to ban gay marriage it has been legalized. I’m glad we finally got this one right.

  26. Nick Gotts (formerly KG) says

    The vote was 75-59. I think it was more than 1 or 2. – Johnny Vector

    Well God’s aim is notoriously poor. Maybe he changed the wrong minds?

  27. says

    Certain US churches seem to be big on the use of the term team to describe groups organised to do various things in the congregation. You often see references to worship teams, which is a smartypants way of referring to the church band. So prayer team is no surprise.

  28. wpjoe says

    @13 tubi
    Predicted last states to approve marriage equality. I would have thought Utah would be in the running.

  29. Ichthyic says

    While I fully support deprivileging heterosexual couples

    spoken like someone entirely ignorant of all the laws relating to marriages that have been passed in basically any country on the planet.

    hint:

    it’s really not about legalizing privilege.

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