Another School With Ten Commandments Displays

Update #2: The school board meeting was actually quite a bit calmer and more reasonable than these things usually are:

Many attendees arrived in vehicles upon which Christian slogans were written or posted. Many wore clothing proclaiming their religious beliefs. Many teens attended, wearing black “Don’t Quit for Christ” T-shirts. Several elderly attendees clutched Bibles. Attendees’ ages ranged from infant through senior citizen.

Muldrow First Assembly of God Senior Pastor Shawn Money, a representative of the Christian Muldrow Ministry Alliance, told school officials, “We understand the last two weeks have been very difficult for you. We support you. We’re praying for you. … We know that in 1980 the Supreme Court ruled it was unconstitutional to have the Ten Commandments in public schools for religious purposes. … We disagree.”

Many audience members called out “amens.”…

The hundreds present at Monday’s board meeting were calm and respectful, even applauding Richardson after he delivered news many would have preferred not to hear.

Chambers’ voice choked as he told the audience the board wished it had another alternative, but removed the plaques rather than spend taxpayer money for costly legal fees that would be incurred fighting to keep them.

But there was more than a bit of the usual idiocy:

Freddie Gauntt of Fort Gibson said he attended “to help stand up for our beliefs in God.”

He asked why one or two persons can change things in a Democratic society.

“It should have gone to a vote of the community. It upsets me that the federal government has a set of guidelines that are not godly in nature,” Gauntt said.

You should move to Iran. They’re all about keeping the government “godly.”

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19 comments on this post.
  1. John Pieret:

    Even a local minister had to face the facts … more or less:

    Pastor Shawn Money, who spoke at the meeting on behalf of the Muldrow Ministerial Alliance told 5NEWS he would love to see the plaques put back up, but also understands the school district’s position.

    “We’re glad that they were here for 20 years, but now they had to come down,” Money said. :We felt like that first, we needed to tell them that we do support them and understand that they had a hard job and that we’d been praying for them. But secondly, we wanted to go on record saying that we believe in the Ten Commandments. We believe they are important.”

    http://5newsonline.com/2013/05/13/muldrow-school-board-ready-to-address-ten-commandments-issue/

  2. Taz:

    It upsets me that the federal government has a set of guidelines that are not godly in nature

    The Constitution?

  3. doublereed:

    Hm… you know, this has the effect of teaching kids and students about the establishment clause. I guess that’s a good thing, but maybe the discussion would veer toward persecution complex. On the other hand, it might give people a better understanding of freedom of religion.

  4. GDad:

    “It’s Christianity under attack within our own country,” said Josh Moore, pastor of the First Baptist Church of Muldrow, Okla. “The irony can’t be missed by anyone who’s lived in this country or grown up in this country.”

    I’m pretty sure he either doesn’t understand the concept of irony, or he is admitting something about Xianity that he didn’t mean to say.

  5. Modusoperandi:

    ‘It should have gone to a vote of the community…’

    Ahhh. The mating call of the Comfortable Majority (♫ Mobmob mobmob! Mob rule! Mob rule! ♫). It must be Spring.

  6. DaveL:

    “We know that in 1980 the Supreme Court ruled it was unconstitutional to have the Ten Commandments in public schools for religious purposes. … We disagree.”

    Guess who wins?

  7. gshelley:

    Pastor Moore told Fox News that the local interfaith ministerial associated printed 1,000 t-shirts emblazoned with the Ten Commandments – and many students plan on wearing the shirts to class.

    I wonder if any of the t-shirts were worn in school, and if so, if the people who were allowed to wear them realised they weren’t being oppressed.

  8. Doug Little:

    Oh how weak their god is, having to be constantly reminded of its existence with public displays every where they go.

  9. Doug Little:

    GDad @4,

    Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I’m sick and tired of people throwing around terms like irony when they don’t understand what it means. Another one is Ad hominem.

  10. Pierce R. Butler:

    Doug Little @ # 9 – Well, you wouldn’t have any problems with that if you weren’t so – little!

  11. Pierce R. Butler:

    Oops – I guess my # 10 really only counts as an ad nominem

  12. D. C. Sessions:

    I wonder if any of the t-shirts were worn in school

    I’m thinking that there should be shirts with Arabic lettering on it that says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Admittedly it would take a very brave student to wear it.

  13. vhutchison:

    The posting of the Commandments were brought to the attention of FFRFn by a male junior student at ther high school;; he should be commended for his courage, knowing that he will likely undergo lots of harrassment from other students and the community in general. I have nominated him for an award given by a state organization that recognizes constitutional heritage.

  14. mobius:

    Clearly Mr. Gauntt has never encountered the concept of “tyranny of the majority”.

  15. mobius:

    OH…one more thing.

    That this happened on Oklahoma…

    Big surprise. Not.

  16. Doug Little:

    Oops – I guess my # 10 really only counts as an ad nominem…

    I thought ad nominem was reserved for anything the National Organisation for Marriage says.

  17. Johnny Au Gratin:

    Instead of relying on “mob rule” or “tyranny of the majority” in Oklahoma, they should just let David Frizzell and Shelly West decide the issue. It makes about as much sense, they being the reason God made Oklahoma. In fact, I may have to ask her friend Jose Cuervo to help me get these songs out of my head.

  18. billdaniels:

    #16: Their arguments are usually ad nauseum.

    I’ve read comments about this issue on Huffington Post. One of third of the comments in favor of the X-Coms say that they are the foundation of our government and the basis of our Constitution. But whenever I or anyone else asks for clarification, or proof, or examples, there is never a response.* I guess it must be a secret.
    *One man asserted that the proof was all in the appendix of the Constitution. He wouldn’t tell me where to find this appendix. I need to get that decoder ring now.

  19. martinc:

    I know, I know, it’s the poor guy’s name, and it’s not his fault, but … ‘Senior Pastor Shawn Money’? With a name like that, surely he should have his own televangelical show!

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