Fans Attack Victim of Alleged Murder Scheme

Tim Lambesis, the lead singer of Christian metal band As I Lay Dying, has been arrested for allegedly hiring a hit man to kill his estranged wife. So naturally, a disturbingly high number of his fans have decided that his wife deserved it for being a bitch, slut, cunt or whatever other slur they could think of.

“Meggan Lambesis said her estranged husband had become “obsessed with bodybuilding””Sounds like a case of a bitch wife

— Alan Cook (@AlanCookHimself) May 9, 2013

LONG LIVE TIM LAMBESIS.STAY FREE BRUTHA.IM SURE THE BITCH DESERVED IT\,,/, fb.me/24wzYT563

— Black Daddy (@DjBlackDaddy) May 9, 2013

Either way, Meggan Lambesis must’ve been a crazy bitch for Tim to even think about hiring someone to murder her. Still doesn’t make it right

— ⚛Devin⚛ (@StarClimber) May 8, 2013

Still in shock about the Tim Lambesis arrest. His wife must have been one hell of a bitch for him to want try and do that!

— Vincent Adorno (@Vindorno) May 8, 2013

Pretty bummed by the Tim Lambesis thing. Hopin it all works out for him and the band. I guess sometimes you just gotta kill a bitch, right?

— Ben Harclerode (@nuGUYwc) May 8, 2013

In retrospect, I bet that bitch was crazy. Free Tim Lambesis.

— Snackavelli (@hustisDG4L) May 8, 2013

Tim Lambesis ex wife must of been a SUPER bitch

— Doug Vorndran (@RSon4pointO) May 8, 2013

Tim Lambesis can want a bitch dead. I know I want a few dead. Haha.

— Mattie Hood (@MattieDestroys) May 8, 2013

@zeenakoda I think that Tim Lambesis is a cool guy, and if he hired someone to kill his ex wife, she must be a real bitch!

— Envy Letts (@CabAvocadoBrick) May 9, 2013

In retrospect, I bet that bitch was crazy. Free Tim Lambesis.

— Snackavelli (@hustisDG4L) May 8, 2013

Tim Lambesis-grejen visar på sjukt perspektiv. “His wife was probably a cunt anyway. #FREETIM

— David Lindbergson (@lindbergson) May 9, 2013

Photo: Tim Lambesis “Trying to kill his wife” she must be a cunt! :’) could face 9 years :(… tmblr.co/ZaTekwkaf35A

— Sam. (@SaamNewell) May 9, 2013

If this Tim Lambesis incident has taught me anything, it’s that bitches be trippin’

— Scottie L (@ScottieLambchop) May 8, 2013

Tim Lambesis trynna kill his wife. Damn…. Bitches can turn even the most devoted Christian Cray!

— Irv (@Irvdied) May 8, 2013

Gee, I can’t imagine why anyone would think that feminism is important.

50 comments on this post.
  1. Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :):

    …so is this going to get sidetracked by an “academic” discussion about whether murdering one’s ex-wife is ever okay and a lot of misogynistic victim-stomping when anyone protests, too?

  2. doublereed:

    Holy crap, how about the crazy of the person who hired a hitman to kill his wife??? Doesn’t he seem like kind of an murderous, violent, asshole? wtf

  3. Gretchen:

    About 1/3 of female murder victims aged 12 or older are killed by an intimate partner

    In other words, 1/3 of women are crazy bitches.

  4. jnorris:

    I never knew the Christian Rock fan base was so Christian like.

  5. justawriter:

    Because somebody has to say it …
    We will know them by their love.

  6. erichoug:

    Why is it so hard for these people to just say,:”Jeez, I thought he was an OK guy, but SHIT! Why couldn’t he have just gotten a divorce, what a scumbag!”

    It’s almost as though, if you’re a christian, ordinary rules of society don’t apply to you.

  7. Alverant:

    This is beyond “sad” and venturing into “pathetic”. So is it the fact that he can play a guitar and sing is what shifted the blame to his wife or his religious beliefs?

  8. John Hinkle:

    Tim Lambesis, the lead singer of Christian metal band …

    Um, Christian metal? Man, I need to get out more.

    On second thought, I think I’ll stay home.

  9. bmiller:

    There actually IS good Christian metal (As I lay Dying is boring, insipid “hardcore”, but the boring nature of the music is actually more because of their chosen genre than Christianity, per se).

    For over the top, symphonic, almost histrionic gothic metal, VIRGIN BLACK was amazing.

    My Silent Wake is very high quality doom metal from the UK.

    But….they are a rarity. As my theology leans more towards nihilistic existentialism, the “Satan Worship” pretty endemic in fringe metal is as ludicrous, but. I still love me some MAYHEM or BEHEMOTH. lol

  10. slc1:

    Equally as bad is when the lamestream media treats attempts to hire contract killers as something humorous. There was a case in Montgomery Co., Md. several decades ago in which a woman, who, as I recall, was on the county council at one time, tried to hire a hitman to give her husband the bump. This was considered funny by many commentators in the lamestream media. Somehow I don’t think the husband thought it was humorous.

  11. busterggi:

    According to the bible Yahweh/Jesus/the nameless holy spook had the Hebrews commit genocide for him, according to history the later followers tried real hard to commit genocide on the Jews by that same god’s orders. See, they are made in his image – always get someone else to do the dirty work.

  12. dingojack:

    Ah, how christian. I’m sure Jesus would be so proud of his followers…
    Dingo

  13. Rip Steakface:

    @8 and 9

    There is indeed good Christian metal, but it’s incredibly rare, and I can only listen to one or two songs before getting sick of the godbothering. The best Christian metal band I can think of it Tourniquet, a very talented thrash metal band – but the lyrical topics still make it impossible to listen to for more than 15 minutes (maybe 2 or 3 songs) before banging your head against the wall (in a bad way).

    As I Lay Dying isn’t really metal anyway. If you search on metal-archives.com, they only just recently added this particular As I Lay Dying (there’s another As I Lay Dying that’s actually a good, non-Christian doom metal) due to their loosening of submission requirements (for years, they didn’t allow metalcore bands, rightfully so, and Slipknot is still not on there for similarly good reasons).

    There are also plenty of metal bands with Christian members: even Slayer, infamous for their Satan-loving lyrics and general antireligious tone, has a Christian vocalist (Tom Araya is Roman Catholic). Most of the antireligious/pro-Satan songs are written by the atheist guitarist Kerry King, while Araya prefers writing about more down-to-Earth morbidity – serial killers, gang wars, genocide, so on. For example, the album Seasons in the Abyss is roughly half and half written by King and Araya respectively. Araya wrote Expendable Youth (gang wars), Dead Skin Mask (about Jeffrey Dahmer, though unnamed), and Hallowed Point (either suicide or homocide… can’t tell). Meanwhile, King wrote Spirit in Black (Satan), Born of Fire (Satan), and Temptation (possession by internal urges, represented by the idea of a demon).
    Interestingly, the better lyrics tend to be Araya’s, while musical ideas tend to be best in King’s songs.

    Likewise, if you’re a longtime reader, you know about Dave Mustaine, a former atheist (“whaddya mean I don’t believe in God? talk to him every day…”) heroine addict turned teetotaler conservative Christian (going so far as endorsing Rick Santorum for president) who is the guitarist, vocalist, main songwriter, and basically the only consistent force in Megadeth (often called Megadave, for a good reason).

    Contrast this with the numerous explicitly atheist and/or anti-Christian bands throughout metal: Heathen, 90% of black metal (Mayhem!), and even the band named Atheist… though funny enough, their lyrics are mostly about abstract philosophy and environmentalism. People don’t listen to them for the lyrics, anyway, they’re technical death metal with the craziest, most awesome rhythm section in all of metal.

    …Sorry, I start talking about metal and I won’t stop for a good while.

  14. democommie:

    “Doesn’t he seem like kind of an murderous, violent, asshole? wtf”

    A coward, more like. Won’t do his own “wet work”.

    Y’all can have your KKKristian Metal, I’ll take Klezmer.

  15. iknklast:

    So, a man hires a hit man to kill a woman, and we’re discussing whether there is good Christian metal? Uh, did someone miss the point here? This wasn’t really an article about music.

    Nice derail.

  16. Ibis3, Let's burn some bridges:

    John Hinkle, bmiller, Rip Steakface

    You do realise this post is about people condoning a woman’s murder, right?

  17. kylawyer:

    Hey, these folks are just following the Bible. It goes to great lengths to say that a wife must submit to her husband. He probably just found out that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night. I’m assuming he instructed the hitman to kill her by stoning her to death just like the Buybull directs.

  18. D. C. Sessions:

    It’s almost as though, if you’re a christian, ordinary rules of society don’t apply to you.

    Almost?

  19. Ibis3, Let's burn some bridges:

    democommie

    Sure, this guy’s worst fault is that he outsources, not the fact that he tried to murder a woman. You are a fucking asshole.

  20. D. C. Sessions:

    Sure, this guy’s worst fault is that he outsources, not the fact that he tried to murder a woman.

    Real Men™ murder their own wives.

  21. Rip Steakface:

    @Ibis3

    I had already heard about his arrest before reading this, so the shock has worn off already. He’s an asshole and needs to be put away and/or rehabilitated. There would be the possibility of this being a publicity stunt (similar to rappers having clean criminal records before getting big, then suddenly performing some criminal act or another [i.e., drug dealing, theft] to boost record sales), though it appears to have the side effect of a long prison sentence for conspiracy to commit murder.

    The fact that they’re a Christian metalcore band has no bearing on whether this would affect record sales: people who are exclusively fans of Christian metal and especially Christian metalcore are usually the most absurdly tough-guy and annoying fans you can find. They’re the sort of people who ask “do you even lift, bro?” without any irony.

    I’m talking about this in the context of music because that’s what makes the story interesting (for a given value of interesting). If it were just some random Christian dude who tried to hire a hitman to murder his wife, it wouldn’t matter to anyone else, but since it’s the vocalist of a band, it does. For me, it just gives ammunition to hate metalcore with :P.

  22. Raging Bee:

    So…if Timmy Lamebesis were to put out a contract on, say, @DjBlackDaddy’s mom, would @DjBlackDaddy suddenly start believing his mom deserved it?

  23. Gretchen:

    “Ibis3, Let’s burn some bridges”–

    Talking in this thread about anything other than how Tim Lambesis tried to murder a woman does not make a person an asshole.

    Thanks.

  24. SallyStrange:

    Now, I have often been told, while conversing with anti-choicers, that although doctors who perform abortions should go to prison, the poor deluded ladies who hire the doctors should not. At the most, they need counseling or something, because the poor dears just don’t know what they’re doing.

    According to this logic, the hit man that was hired goes to prison for a long time, whereas Mr. Lambesis should have some sessions with a psychiatrist.

    But then, I guess, for Christians, killing a woman is whatever, but killing an embryo? That’s beyond the pale.

  25. raven:

    John Hinkle, bmiller, Rip Steakface

    You do realise this post is about people condoning a woman’s murder, right?

    Sure they/we do.

    It’s so appalling and plain that there isn’t much to say.

    Everyone can see that. Except for his fans and some xians.

    One wonders why he didn’t just do the normal person thing and get divorced. As it stands now, most likely he well end up divorced anyway and do some time in prison as well.

  26. raven:

    Kids these days. Death metal, thrash metal, xian metal.

    What is wrong with classical music, written by the old master composers. You know, acid rock and electric blues.

  27. Ulysses:

    Don’t any of those people realize who the intended victim was? Hint for Christians, it wasn’t the guy hiring the hitman.

  28. bmiller:

    mea culpa. sorry guys, got sidetracked. :(

  29. dugglebogey:

    All I know is, the jews must have done something pretty awful to get Hitler that upset at them.

  30. Abby Normal:

    If the idea of Christian Metal blows your mind, look into the fascinating world of Christian Gangsta Rap. Here are some artists that’ll have you praying for a savior in no time:
    T-Bone
    Gospel Gangsters
    KJ 52
    Preachaz In Tha Hood
    Str8 Young Gangstaz

  31. Nentuaby:

    The @lindbergson tweet, by the way, is a commentary on somebody else’s posting of the English part. The Swedish is something like “This Tim Landberg thingy shows a sick lack of perspective.”

  32. leni:

    mea culpa. sorry guys, got sidetracked. :(

    I thought it was interesting context. Just as long as it doesn’t devolve into an epic battle about how to best classify their music on metalarchives. I don’t think it was derailing. Not that I’m the arbiter of such things, but for some of us that don’t know much about it and are curious, it adds perfectly reasonable context. Those of us that aren’t are free to skip over the comments.

  33. Marcus Ranum:

    Str8 Young Gangstaz

    The 0xymorons.

  34. dan4:

    @21: “…needs to be put away and/or rehabilitated.”

    (*Shakes head at the “or” part of that statement, considering we’re talking about a FRIGGIN’ MURDER PLOT here.*).

  35. dmcclean:

    @Gretchen #3
    I completely agree with your substantive point, but I have to point out the staggering innumeracy of the way you phrased it.

  36. dingojack:

    Dan – nice to see you view jail not just as ‘penitentiary’ but ‘a house of correction’.
    :) Dingo
    ———
    OBTW – murderers have a low rate of recidivism

  37. dan4:

    #32: “I thought it was interesting context.”

    No, you thoughtlessly thought it was interesting context.

    “I don’t think it was derailing.”

    You’re right, in a way. By coming to the conclusion that it wasn’t derailing, you weren’t thinking.

    “…it adds perfectly reasonable context.”

    Yes, if by “reasonable,” you mean “irrelevant” and “unnecessary.”

    “Those of who aren’t are free to skip over the comments.”

    “Aren’t” what? I think you have a word missing in that sentence.

  38. dingojack:

    Dan – circle the verb in the following sentence: ‘I like swimming’.
    (That should keep him busy for quite a while).
    Dingo
    ——–
    (Dan here’s a hint: sometimes in English the verb and/or the object are implied).

  39. lofgren:

    I never understand why people complain about thread derailment on the internet. These comment sections can handle hundreds of comments. We’re not even in the triple digits. If you think there is some interesting aspect of the post that hasn’t been mentioned or isn’t being talked about, just comment on it. There is no need to berate others for talking about what they find interesting.

  40. democommie:

    @19:

    Do I need to put one of these, “/s” on every comment that is not intended to be a statement of absolute fact.

    s/

    He should go to jail. He should, while in jail, have a reverse “Road to Damascus” moment and realize that belief in any god–nevermind THE GOD–has as much utility as belief in the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny or Santa Claus. He should also, while in jail, start a “Dead Again” atheist movement and work to make prison a truly GODLESS place; it and he will be better for it.

    /s

    The guy is an asshole.

  41. fifthdentist:

    As a Faulkner fan, I think he’s an asshole for being in a Christian band that has taken the name of a great novel.

  42. Thorne:

    You do realise this post is about people condoning a woman’s murder, right?

    Well, yeah, but he was doing her a favor! She’ll be much better off in heaven, don’t you know.

    At least compared to being married to him! Or having to listen to his music.

  43. Raging Bee:

    lofgren, Designated Excuser of Insulting Sophistry and JAQing, with another gem of win:

    I never understand why people complain about thread derailment on the internet…

    Lemme guess…you don’t understand why people complain about derailment in face-to-face conversation either. After all, most people can argue for HOURS before having to stop and eat, so why should anyone have a problem with a conversation about violence against women being sidetracked into endless trivial irrelevant BS?

  44. leni:

    No, you thoughtlessly thought it was interesting context.

    So discussing the subculture this man was a part of is irrelevant to you. Maybe I think that’s thoughtless and we should just agree to disagree.

    Yes, if by “reasonable,” you mean “irrelevant” and “unnecessary.”

    You’re free to have that opinion. I don’t share it because I think it matters, and even if it doesn’t that it’s worth thinking about. At this point maybe it’s you who’s derailing, so this is the last reply you are going to get from me on the topic.

    “Those of who aren’t are free to skip over the comments.”

    “Aren’t” what? I think you have a word missing in that sentence.

    Aren’t interested in or curious about that aspect of the discussion. This isn’t an MRA derail about teh menz, it’s discussion about the subculture he was a part of. I don’t understand why that bothers you so much since domestic violence doesn’t occur in a vacuum. But I don’t particular care because at this point it’s more about you’re indignant rage than it is about anything actually related to the topic, so yeah. That’ll be all, thanks.

  45. lofgren:

    Real life conversations are constrained by time and space, and discussions must compete for my limited attention. This is exactly the opposite of internet comment threads. There is more room for comments than we will probably use here, and I can skip over any discussion threads that don’t interest me. There is absolutely no competition between a discussion of Christian metal and… whatever the rest of you want to talk about, which as far as I can tell is just that other people shouldn’t be talking about Christian metal because… I don’t really know why. If you have something interesting to contribute to the discussion, by all means have at it. The only thing stopping you from talking about whatever it is you want to talk about is the time and effort you put into complaining about other people talking about what they want to talk about.

  46. Gretchen:

    dmcclean said:

    @Gretchen #3
    I completely agree with your substantive point, but I have to point out the staggering innumeracy of the way you phrased it.

    I was sarcastically suggesting that the 1/3 of female murder victims killed by an intimate partner were killed for being crazy bitches, which means that the other 2/3 were killed for other reasons. That doesn’t require that every crazy bitch gets murdered– only that the portion of women murdered for being crazy bitches as compared to those murdered for other reasons should correlate to the general population of women.

    But yeah, it could’ve been phrased better. Sorry!

  47. bmiller:

    “The only thing stopping you from talking about whatever it is you want to talk about is the time and effort you put into complaining about other people talking about what they want to talk about.”

    LOL!

    I mena, jeezou, folks. There were what four semi-off topic posts about Christian metal and probably three times that many complaining about said posts. And some of the complaining posts were a bit petty and vitriolic and self-righteous. chill!

  48. dan4:

    @44″…because I think it matters…”

    Why in the world, in a post about “Fans Attack Victim of Alleged Murder Scheme,” does an off-topic discussion about the profession of the alleged murderer “matter”?

  49. democommie:

    “Why in the world, in a post about “Fans Attack Victim of Alleged Murder Scheme,” does an off-topic discussion about the profession of the alleged murderer “matter”?”

    “Tim Lambesis, the lead singer of Christian metal band As I Lay Dying”

    Ed’s words.

  50. leni:

    Why in the world, in a post about “Fans Attack Victim of Alleged Murder Scheme,” does an off-topic discussion about the profession of the alleged murderer “matter”?

    I guess we’ll never know, since it apparently shouldn’t be discussed.

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