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May 08 2013

Atheist Literature Apparently Messed With

The passive distribution of atheist and secular pamphlets at a number of schools in Orange County, Florida took place last week but there was some apparent tampering. The table included an invitation to an event, as the Bibles that were distributed earlier, but those invitations were apparently taken out. The local Fox station had a report on the situation, including an interview with one female student who said she poured her water on the pamphlets. I’m going to try to embed the video below the fold. If it doesn’t show up, you can view it here.

FOX 35 News Orlando

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  1. 1
    Modusoperandi

    “…one female student who said she poured her water on the pamphlets.”

    Shorter her: “I poured my water on them. I understand it’s fair, like, Christians can hand out there bibles, but…we all have our own opinions….”
    Weird. I have a bunch of opinions, oodles, really, and none of them destroy literature I disagree with.

  2. 2
    sleepingwytch(inactive)

    She should be fined for this, this is not right! =(

  3. 3
    glodson

    Maybe she’s not a theist, but an insane homopath who wants to dilute the atheist message to make it stronger.

  4. 4
    Trebuchet

    Wotta surprise!

  5. 5
    Pieter B, FCD

    “We all have our own opinions and mine wins because Jesus.”

    What do you suppose would have happened to a student who poured water on the bibles that were being handed out? I’m guessing it’d be worth another chapter in Ed’s book.

  6. 6
    Gregory in Seattle

    Gee, who could have predicted this?

  7. 7
    sleepingwytch(inactive)

    Maybe she’s not a theist, but an insane homopath who wants to dilute the atheist message to make it stronger.

    xD

  8. 8
    fifthdentist

    Christian zealots understand the Constitution exactly as well as they understand their Bibles, example 5,253,078.

    Or is the Constitution like the Bible in that it takes the right “interpreting” (see torturing) to get it to say what you want it to say. And then 10 minutes later claim that it says the opposite of what you had just said that it said.

  9. 9
    Larry

    Those pamphlets were infringing on her rights, donchaknow. And by pointing out that she’s a dipshit for pouring water on them, you are basically oppressing her only because she lubs her some jebus.

  10. 10
    Alverant

    I can’t watch the video. How was the girl punished for destroying someone else’s property?

  11. 11
    abb3w

    This looks to be the underlying MP4 video, BTW.

    @5, Pieter B, FCD:

    What do you suppose would have happened to a student who poured water on the bibles that were being handed out?

    It would not surprise me if some student decides to find out at the next Bible distribution.

    (Not that I consider it a good idea, but merely expect some outspoken young student atheist might be likely to consider it a good idea when they’re in an area surrounded by religious loons.)

  12. 12
    D. C. Sessions

    What else do you expect people to do when they are subjected to such horrible persecution just for being Christians?

  13. 13
    Reginald Selkirk

    This was not a vandalous act of censorship. She wanted to see if the pamphlets would float, which would indicate they contain witchcraft…

  14. 14
    abb3w

    @10, Alverant:

    How was the girl punished for destroying someone else’s property?

    Apparently, not. On the other hand, I can see an argument for it simply being counter-expression.

    Destroying them doesn’t seem a problem per se. The atheist groups were giving the pamphlets and such away, and it would have been perfectly legitimate for twenty students to each collect one of everything, then publicly burn the pamphlets they collected (provided done safely). Similarly, that the student reduced the supply by more than one copy doesn’t seem a problem; a student who wanted more than one copy would be allowed to take extras. It shouldn’t have significantly interfered with the distribution. Volunteers were stationed to replenish the tables with literature as needed; presumably, they could remove the piles of ruined pamphlets, wipe up the water, and replenished the supply. (All this would also seem to apply in the case of Bibles instead of pamphlets.)

    I’d say the best response for the secularists would be to contact the school (in writing), describe the incident, and inquire whether such student reactions are or are not considered grounds for disciplining students — plus ask on what principles that this decision is made, “for future precedent“.

  15. 15
    robb

    @Reginald Selkirk

    a better test would be to see if the pamphlets weighed the same as a duck.

  16. 16
    Moggie

    Was it holy water?

  17. 17
    some bastard on the net

    Alverant #10

    How was the girl punished for destroying someone else’s property?

    Punished? A sweet, Christian girl punished for vandalizing the evil Atheist literature?

    Oh, you’re funny!

  18. 18
    jnorris

    The female student showed a level of maturity rarely seen outside an elementary school or bible school. I hope she puts that on all her college applications. She’s a shoo in at Liberty.

  19. 19
    Modusoperandi

    Alverant “How was the girl punished for destroying someone else’s property?”
    Pregnant at eighteen, marriage at nineteen, mobile home, sixty extra pounds, no college, part time job at Walmart, and four kids who are as small and dumb as she is.

  20. 20
    rowanvt

    @Modusoperandi:

    I don’t even have words for how appalling your idea of a proper ‘punishment’ is, and the vast amounts shaming directed at women that exists in it.

  21. 21
    sceptinurse

    @Modusopeandi,

    It seems quite a fitting outcome for someone obviously proud of destroying something just because she disagreed with it.

  22. 22
    rowanvt

    @septicnurse:

    Is it really? Wouldn’t it be better if she went to college and became better educated and thus, typically, more open to beliefs other than her own? Wouldn’t it be better that any children she has not be born into crippling poverty?

  23. 23
    thebookofdave

    @Pieter B, FCB #5

    What do you suppose would have happened to a student who poured water on the bibles that were being handed out?

    That would be a clearly illegal infringement of speech. I can haz baptizm?

  24. 24
    fifthdentist

    But if Modusoperandi’s prediction comes true, it’s just what Gob has planned for her life. You can’t argue with Gob’s will.

  25. 25
    ArtK

    @ Gregory

    Who would predict it? I did in the original post and several people poo-poohed the idea. There are days when I hate being wrong. (yes, I know you were being sarcastic. )

  26. 26
    ArtK

    Urgh. Hate being right.

  27. 27
    democommie

    ArtK:

    I hate being “wrong”, too, and “right”, as well, also.

    I wonder, what would happen if some Qurans were left on that table?

  28. 28
    gmacs

    The girl said that she didn’t like atheist literature.. I mean… she understands it’s fair, but… I mean, we all have our opinions, [but fuck yours].

    In those pauses, you can almost see a little part of her brain battling and telling her she’s a hypocritical shit.

    Maybe she’ll grow up. I doubt it.

  29. 29
    gmacs

    Also, might I say, that as a person who was once a devout member of the ELCA and who still has family in the ELCA, this is the kind of shit that my mother would have scolded me severely for doing.

    But then again the ELCA are the folks who look at the red letters, and even then mostly only the nicest passages.

  30. 30
    Rip Steakface

    @rowanvt

    Modus always either exaggerates for effect or does a fantastic Poe. It was a bit meanspirited for him, but that’s his… well, his M.O.

  31. 31
    Modusoperandi

    rowanvt “Is it really? Wouldn’t it be better if she went to college and became better educated and thus, typically, more open to beliefs other than her own? Wouldn’t it be better that any children she has not be born into crippling poverty?”
    Yes, it would be better, but that’s an answer to a different question than the one that was asked.
     
    Rip Steakface “Modus always either exaggerates for effect or does a fantastic Poe.”
    Actually, I tone it down. I’m pretty outrageous.
     
    “It was a bit meanspirited for him, but that’s his… well, his M.O.”
    It’s not meanspirited. It’s what happens. Few douchy morons fall upward (and those are either really good at sports, really nice to look at). Most stay where they are. “Petty person peaks in high school, getting mentioned on news, continues on to crushing mediocrity” the newspaper headline would read. Go to your high school reunion, sometime. Heck, go to mine. All night we were all talking about that dickhead with only one nam…hey! We were talking about me!

  32. 32
    democommie

    “It’s not meanspirited. It’s what happens. Few douchy morons fall upward (and those are either really good at sports, really nice to look at).

    Modus, cut the shit, no, really. This post is NOT about Tim Tebow (REALLY good at sports) OR me!

  33. 33
    carlie

    Pregnant at eighteen, marriage at nineteen, mobile home, sixty extra pounds, no college, part time job at Walmart, and four kids who are as small and dumb as she is.

    Huh. Everything you’ve just said there pretty well describes my mother except for the mobile home (they got a cheap house in the poor part of town) and the WalMart job (she didn’t have a job at all). Oh, and the part about us all being dumb. And an awful lot of my friends’ moms did have the mobile home and Walmart job.

    So was that supposed to be an insult? Because it sounded like it was, but wasn’t describing anything I’d think of as a punishment. It does, however, expose you as a conceited, classist, sexist jerk.

  34. 34
    Modusoperandi

    carlie, obviously.

  35. 35
    Thumper: Who Presents Boxes Which Are Not Opened

    I poured my water on it. I know it’s fair but… we all have our own opinions.

    I’m not real happy about it, I’m a Christian myself so I don’t really want my kids exposed to that but you know…

    These quotes are both incredibly revealing of Christian attitudes to dissenting opinions.

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