Dumbass Quote of the Day

The Mormon Church has apparently given its approval to a proposed change in Boy Scouts rules that would allow gay teens to join and the wingnuts are losing their mind over it. Unsurprisingly, Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality had one of the more amusing responses:

The AFTAH president says there have been cases over the years of boys being molested by homosexual predators in the Boy Scouts.

“Look, this is a church which is outside of Christendom,” he explains. “Mormons can change their core beliefs and call it a divine transformation. They did it with polygamy; they did it with racism – and now I’m afraid, I’m very afraid, that they’re going to do it with homosexuality.”

It’s a good thing no churches inside of Christendom have ever done that. Like the Southern Baptist Convention, which was formed to defend slavery. I mean, they haven’t changed their “core beliefs” or anything and claimed divine sanction for it. Oh wait, they did. And all those churches that preached and fought against rescinding laws against interracial marriage. And the Catholic Church didn’t used to torture Jews and others to force them to convert to Christianity. Oh wait, they did. “Christendom” has changed massively over the centuries, despite the pretenses of ignorant assholes like LaBarbera.

15 comments on this post.
  1. Randomfactor:

    Now that the BSA’s owners have approved the change, it’s as good as done.

  2. cptdoom:

    The AFTAH president says there have been cases over the years of boys being molested by homosexual predators in the Boy Scouts.

    So the ban is working our really well, it seems. It doesn’t even occur to LaBarbera that perhaps there could be heterosexual men, maybe even with sons or stepsons in the Scouts, who were responsible for those molestations.

  3. Synfandel:

    cptdoom. you lost me there. Are you suggesting that a heterosexual man might be interested in molesting boys? Sounds like a contradiction.

  4. dingojack:

    “The AFTAH president says there have been cases over the years of boys being molested by homosexual predators in the Boy Scouts”.

    Really Peter? You’ll have a whole file of cases to cite, right?

    Dingo

  5. MikeMa:

    They keep redrawing that box around ‘Christendom’ to meet whatever needs are at hand. Catholics are devils or not. Mormons are heathens or not. Jews are part of that Judeo-Christian axis as long as they pray in jebus’ name. Where your cult sits depends on the political or social need.

    Hypocrisy and stupidity blended for the perfect koolaid.

  6. steve oberski:

    @Synfandel

    The distinction between a victim’s gender and a perpetrator’s sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don’t really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

    … many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women.

    From http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

  7. hunter:

    Synfandel: the overwhelming majority of sexual predators on boys are self-identified heterosexual males.* As in, over 98%.

    * Not counting those who have no adult sexual orientation.

  8. hunter:

    Steve Oberski: Thanks for the clarification, which I missed before I commented. To clarify further, those with no adult orientation make up, as I recall, about 40% of the total of known child molesters.

    Jim Burroway at Box Turtle Bulletin pulled together a lot of the research in this area in a series of articles.

  9. gopiballava:

    Sure, other churches changed, but they didn’t call the change a divine transformation. See? Big difference!

  10. Who Knows?:

    Are you suggesting that a heterosexual man might be interested in molesting boys? Sounds like a contradiction.

    This seems to confuse quite a few people. Well, at least those who suffer from a lack of critical thinking skills.

  11. raven:

    “Christendom” has changed massively over the centuries, despite the pretenses of ignorant assholes like LaBarbera.

    Despite some religionists hatred of the word “evolution”, religions evolve and sometimes quite rapidly.

    All those sacred core beliefs can and are tossed under a bus whenever they have to.

    The Southern Baptists have an official, plainly stated position on Mormonism. They are Fake xians and they are all going to hell. They even send missionaries to Utah to save them. None of that prevented them from supporting Romney for president. Against a xian incumbent, Obama.

  12. RickR:

    That “big tent” the christian majority huddles under maybe isn’t so big.

    Delicious.

  13. lofgren:

    I don’t know if Synfandel has an agenda, but I completely understand why this confuses people. Most of us have a very difficult time comprehending the way that a pedophile’s mind works, somewhat to our credit. At best we can observe and understand it intellectually, but for me at least it’s almost impossible to really viscerally grok the way that they view children. It makes sense to me that there would be confusion on this matter.

  14. jnorris:

    Raven, name five True Bible Christians (TM) who acknowledge Pres Obama being a True Bible Christian (TM). :)

  15. Trickster Goddess:

    They did it with polygamy; they did it with racism – and now I’m afraid, I’m very afraid, that they’re going to do it with homosexuality.

    The way he phrases that makes it sound like he thinks it was also wrong for them to change their core beliefs on polygamy and racism.

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