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Apr 29 2013

Paul and Rockwell, Together Again

Remember when the controversy over all the racist and crazy stuff in Ron Paul’s old newsletters hit a few years ago? Paul said he didn’t write any of that stuff, that it was really Lew Rockwell and that he disavowed those things. Guess what? They’re back together again. Now out of public office, it seems Paul is just fine with Rockwell’s insane views after all.

As difficult as it was then to believe that Paul had no role in the production of newsletters written in his own name and which netted his family over $1 million per year, or that he did not even know who was writing them, it is now impossible to extricate Paul from the extremist views of his hangers-on. That is because Paul, who retired from Congress in January, has decisively thrown in his lot with a bevy of conspiracy theorists, cranks, and apologists for some of the worst regimes on the planet.

On April 17, Paul announced the creation of a new think tank, the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity, which, according to its website, “continues and expands Dr. Paul’s lifetime of public advocacy for a peaceful foreign policy and the protection of civil liberties at home.” Sitting on the advisory board is none other than Rockwell.

The board of that institute includes a bevy of nuts and cranks, including the usual neo-confederate types and a couple 9/11 truthers. Much more on all of them at the link above.

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  1. 1
    Reginald Selkirk

    There’s one real oddity in the list of names for the Ron Paul Foundation – Dennis Kucinich.

  2. 2
    raven

    On April 17, Paul announced the creation of a new think tank, the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity,…

    This is an oxymoron.

    They don’t have think tanks, they have dumb tanks.

    Gary North was also a Ron Paul staffer. North is a xian Dominionist extremist who wants to overthrow the US government and set up a fundie xian theocracy.

  3. 3
    doublereed

    Huh. I totally believed Ron Paul about all that stuff (not that I looked into it that much). Now I feel like a silly person.

  4. 4
    StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    @1. Reginald Selkirk : “There’s one real oddity in the list of names for the Ron Paul Foundation – Dennis Kucinich.”

    Okay, if that’s the Kucinich I think it is (ex-POTUS contender democratic party for 2008?) I am officially bloody surprised by that. I knew Kucinich was a believer in flying crockery, had no idea and never thought he’d have any truck with Libertatian style wingnuttiness.

    Not that I’m all that familiar with him as an Aussie whose kept a bit of a curious eye on the States but still. Surprised and baffled by that. (& much else too natch)

  5. 5
    StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    @3. doublereed : Now I feel like a silly person.

    Why? What would you do with a silly person? ;-)

  6. 6
    dingojack

    Raven – “… the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity… ”

    Or, as it is known in PaulSat*, ‘MiniPax‘.

    Dingo
    ——–
    * derived from the language described in the libertarian ‘how to’ manual, Nineteen Eighty-Four

  7. 7
    dingojack

    Stevo – ” I knew Kucinich was a believer in flying crockery…”
    He likes throwing plates?
    :) Dingo

  8. 8
    Raging Bee

    It’s more pathetic than surprising to see Kucinich’s name on this nonsense. Kucinich is the guy whose crowning “achievement” is his advocacy of a “US Department of Peace” — utterly oblivious to the fact that we already have something like that, called the “State Department.” He probably just saw the word “peace” in the organization’s name, and just jumped on board sight-unseen.

    So basically Ron Paul is fading into happy irrelevance, and taking at least one clueless liberal with him.

  9. 9
    raven

    So basically Ron Paul is fading into happy irrelevance, and taking at least one clueless liberal with him.

    Unfortunately, while he is fading into irrelevancy, he managed to spawn first.

    Rand Paul is just as kooky and a whole lot younger.

  10. 10
    slc1

    Re Raglng Bee @ #8

    Kucinich, earlier in his career, was mayor of Cleveland and he was considered a little loopy way back then.

  11. 11
    Gretchen

    Aren’t Kucinich and Paul both a) staunchly anti-invasion and b) staunchly anti drug war?

    That covers a lot of ground. Of course it’s ground I’d much rather cover with someone else who is neither of them, but….

  12. 12
    Raging Bee

    Unfortunately, while he is fading into irrelevancy, he managed to spawn first.

    Yeah, and Randy Paul is doing his daddy proud, by telling victims of gun violence to shut up.

    Aren’t Kucinich and Paul both a) staunchly anti-invasion and b) staunchly anti drug war?

    No, Paul was “staunchly” loyal to the party that gave us both, and never once tried to mount an effective protest against either.

  13. 13
    Marcus Ranum

    “the protection of civil liberties at home.”

    Apparently that means “protection of civil liberties for the privileged class” – i.e.: an honest libertarian.

  14. 14
    Modusoperandi

    “Paul and Rockwell, Together Again”

    “Say, say, say, what you want, but somebody’s watching meeee…”

  15. 15
    democommie

    Paul started a “Think Tank”. No doubt that’s where a substantial chunk of his “campaign” war chest disappeared to.

    While he was busy conning his followers and feathering his own nest he managed to make a number of people think that he was NOT a lying, racist, woman hating fuckbag. I suppose that he no longer has to pretend.

  16. 16
    democommie

    @14:

    Modusoperndi:

    I do NOT want to see your record collection.

  17. 17
    Gretchen

    No, Paul was “staunchly” loyal to the party that gave us both, and never once tried to mount an effective protest against either.

    Yeah, I suppose practically making those two things his presidential platform doesn’t count.

    Honestly, Bee. If Gandhi was a Republican you’d deny that he did anything good in his life.

  18. 18
    Raging Bee

    Yeah, I suppose practically making those two things his presidential platform doesn’t count.

    No, it doesn’t, because a) his campaign was never expected to go anywhere; and b) his half-assed campaigns don’t even begin to make up for all the decades he spent demonizing the liberals who also opposed both of those things. Did Ron Paul ever step up and say, “Hey, everybody, the liberals are right about the drug war and the Iraq invasion, so let’s stop calling them Stalinists and work with them against the Republican establishment instead!”?

    And besides, why should we even bother with the official platform of someone who’s already shown himself to be a friend of racists, a delusional moron, and a pathological liar?

    Honestly, Bee. If Gandhi was a Republican you’d deny that he did anything good in his life.

    You’re really that desperate to fend off criticism of libertarianism, aren’t you?

  19. 19
    Modusoperandi

    democommie “@14: Modusoperndi: I do NOT want to see your record collection.”
    What, is there something wrong with the 80s?
     
    Raging Bee “…his campaign was never expected to go anywhere…”
    Luckily, the GOP clown car was so full of people dumb enough to appeal to the Republican base and become popular but too dumb to stay popular with anybody but them that eventually Ron Paul became the “frontrunner” and enough people started looking in to his past that this stuff came out, or he’d still be known entirely as “that libertarian who ran for president a few times”.
     
    “And besides, why should we even bother with the official platform of someone who’s already shown himself to be a friend of racists, a delusional moron, and a pathological liar?”
    BUT OBAMA PALS AROUND WITH TOURISTS!!!

  20. 20
    D. C. Sessions

    Of course it’s ground I’d much rather cover with someone else who is neither of them, but….

    I’d be totally fine if it were everyone but them.

    And by the way: Ron Paul is often referred to as a “libertarian.” Which is only true if “libertarian” refers to an intrusive-government authoritarian who wants the Federal government out of the way so that the States can be as repressive as they like.

  21. 21
    Raging Bee

    Well, yeah, that’s exactly what the word means to a significant number of the people who claim it.

  22. 22
    D. C. Sessions

    What, is there something wrong with the 80s?

    Rather more things than I like to think about. However, I’m inclined to be forgiving because of four redeeming things that the 80s did for the world:

    1) The 80s saw the end of mass disco, and
    2-4) My kids.

  23. 23
    Rip Steakface

    The 80s brought us death metal and cell phones. I can think of worse things.

  24. 24
    Raging Bee

    Don’t forget Al Haig, Maggie Thatcher, and James “a black, a woman, two Jews, and a cripple” Watt. Oh, and Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggert, Oral Roberts, Jack Kemp, and Ron Paul.

  25. 25
    Modusoperandi

    Raging Bee, those people were never in a band! The first three tried, but ‘Haig, Thatcher and Watt’ sounded like some hippie shit.
    In any event, James Watt invented the steam engine, which was awesome.

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