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Apr 25 2013

Nugent’s Inane Screed

Ted Nugent has reacted to the arrest of one of the Boston Marathon bombers in exactly the manner one would expect, with an inane explosion of ignorant rage that boils down to “let’s kill him as quickly as possible.” And for some reason, he thinks this has something to do with voodoo.

f the bombing, killings and maiming of Bostonians by the two voodoo whack-job jihadists in Boston isn’t maddening enough, the next tsunami of insults should drive any American addicted to common sense crazy.

The jihadist punk in custody is obviously guilty of committing murder, terrorist acts and a whole book of other crimes, but he won’t be brought to justice.

Justice is supposed to be swift. At least that’s how our Founding Fathers thought it should be.

I love it when idiots try to enlist the Founding Fathers in defense of their simpleton views. They did believe that a trial should be relatively swift, of course, guaranteeing a speedy trial in the Bill of Rights. Nugent weirdly thinks that it’s the defense that will want to delay things:

Imagine if this jihadist punk had basically committed the same crimes 150 years ago. He would have been swinging from an oak tree in Boston Common no longer than 60 days from the date of his arrest. That would be justice.

But that won’t happen to this guilty voodoo vermin. If he’s ever executed, it will be many years from now after our so-called justice system goes through its strange eternal, time-wasting, court-and-lawyer maneuvers from hell. The ugly truth is that by the time this voodoo punk is executed, America will probably have had to deal with any number of other bombings and killings by other voodoo nuts.

He probably won’t go to trial for more than a year due to court-sanctioned delays.

Yeah, who needs courts and lawyers? Oh wait, those Founding Fathers he just invoked guaranteed those things. And the trial will take a long time not because of defense lawyers but because of the prosecution. Defense attorneys don’t want their clients sitting in jail for a long time. When speedy trials don’t happen, it’s almost always because of the government, not the accused, and it sure as hell isn’t because they’re so intent on lavishing the defendant with undeserved due process rights.

And there’s that word “voodoo” again. I have no idea what he thinks it means, but he uses it 16 times in this column. Maybe it popped up on his Build Your Vocabulary in a Year desk calendar or something.

A perfect example of justice delayed is terminal voodoo mass murderer Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 13 soldiers and wounded 32 others at Fort Hood in 2009. Allahu Akbar, my ass.

This voodoo punk’s trial is finally set to begin on May 29 of this year – almost four long years after he shouted “Allahu Akbar” and began his voodoo-inspired rampage in yet another gun-free zone.

This four-year dastardly delay to bring this guilty punk to justice is damnable.

Dastardly? Have you ever heard that word outside of a cartoon? That’s appropriate, of course, because Nugent’s ideas are always cartoonish. What he doesn’t realize, apparently, is that Hasan’s trial is taking place in a military court, not a civilian one. You know, the ones that the wingnuts are demanding for Tsarnaev because, they argue, they won’t have to worry about all that pesky due process stuff.

Isn’t it funny how the people who most ostentatiously declare themselves to be Real Americans who adore the founding fathers are the very first ones to throw that whole Bill of Rights thing that they wrote right out the window and who seem to think that our justice system can’t handle cases like this?

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  1. 1
    Raging Bee

    Voodoo from Dagestan? I see no reason to read any further. So are the Russians part of the plot, or is Voodoo the reason they’re having so much trouble keeping that region in line?

  2. 2
    Marcus Ranum

    Nugent? I thought he was dead or in prison.

  3. 3
    Larry

    I thought he was dead or in prison.

    Don’t rush things, Marcus. He said by the end of April. Today is the 25th.

    Let’s tune back in next week and see which it was.

  4. 4
    flybywire

    Strange, wouldn’t Nugent want that protection of a speedy trial because the evil government is going to get him, right? And he wouldn’t want to sit in Jail for many years without due process.

    Wait, that’s not what he means by Swift justice? Oh, never mind then.

  5. 5
    Doug Little

    I thought Ted was either dead or in jail, maybe someone needs to ask him about that.

    should drive any American addicted to common sense crazy

    I don’t think he knows what common sense is. Common sense would dictate a cooling off period when one gets emotional about things. Good thing we have due process an idea built on common sense.

  6. 6
    sunsangnim

    Voodoo = not Christian.

    I didn’t know military bases were gun-free zones.

  7. 7
    Gregory in Seattle

    “Nugent’s Inane Screed”

    Does he have any other kind?

  8. 8
    Kevin, 友好火猫 (Friendly Fire Cat)

    Voodoo is a religion founded from a combination of Christianity and the spiritual religions of the Haitian slaves. They’ve interpreted their primary gods (the loa) to be spirits of the saints, and the head god (whose name I can’t recall ATM) is a reimagining of the Christian God.

    Islam is not voodoo, Mr. Nugent.

  9. 9
    Nick Gotts

    Nugent? I thought he was dead or in prison. – Marcus Ranum

    No, all this pesky time-wasting in the so-called justice system mean that probably won’t happen for years, if ever.

  10. 10
    greg1466

    First time I’ve heard a military base referred to as a “gun-free” zone.

  11. 11
    Doug Little

    Isn’t it funny how the people who most ostentatiously declare themselves to be Real Americans who adore the founding fathers are the very first ones to throw that whole Bill of Rights thing that they wrote right out the window and who seem to think that our justice system can’t handle cases like this?

    The same real Americans think the government is incompetent but are willing to trust them implicitly when it comes to handing out the death penalty.

  12. 12
    Abby Normal

    Voodoo? Perhaps Nugent thinks the bombers support Republican economic policies.

  13. 13
    Gretchen

    Voodoo = Nugent’s generational slang for heathen religions, AKA other people’s religion. It doesn’t matter what it is; it’s just weird. And not yours. And weird because not yours. Muslims might as well be witches who might as well be Yoruba.

    I was going to say it sounds strange to us because it’s no longer acceptable to just group all religions together that way, but Nugent’s grouping all other religions together. When secularists group all religions together, they really mean all of them, and they have other words.

  14. 14
    abb3w

    Judging from context, he seems to think “voodoo” is a synonym for “furrin’”.

  15. 15
    No One

    Wango Tango indeed.

  16. 16
    Doug Little

    Voodoo, the failure of the Roman Catholic Church to fully convert African slaves to Christianity with the slaves instead integrating elements of Catholicism into their traditional tribal religions, which actually makes for a really interesting religion. I’ll bet they never saw that coming.

  17. 17
    blf

    This Islam-voodoo thing seems to be some part of wingnuttia. For instance:

    This article probes into the traditions, customs, practices, and rites of Islam, which are largely based on Arab Bedouins’ society of Mohammed’s time.

    In a modern world, these Islamic customs and traditions are no more than superstitious beliefs and irrational acts — better known as voodoo practices. These Islamic Voodoos encompass practically every aspect of a Muslim’s life — from birth to death.

    There are Islamic voodoos for angels, animals, biology, sorcery, resurrection, soul, Satan, hygiene, women, medicine, toilet practices and so on.

    Souring [sic] from the founts of Islam, such as the Qur’an and ahadith, we learn that much of what the Muslims believe to be divine, pure, salubrious, and supernatural actually have no scientific or rational basis.

    (From The Mumbo Jumbo of Islamic Black Magic Voodoo, which I picked only because the post is quite recent (late-2012).)

    And I doubt the author of the above realizes that, with a few simple subsitutions, the above also applies to xianity and other Magic Great Sky Faeries cults. For instance (my changes are emphasized):

    This article probes into the traditions, customs, practices, and rites of xianity, which are largely based on oral stories originally told by stone-age shepherds.

    In a modern world, these xian customs and traditions are no more than superstitious beliefs and irrational acts — better known as voodoo practices. These xian Voodoos encompass practically every aspect of a xian’s life — from birth to death.

    There are xian voodoos for angels, animals, biology, sorcery, resurrection, soul, Satan, hygiene, women, medicine, toilet practices and so on.

    Souring [snicker] from the founts of xianity, such as the babble and writings of its “great” thinkers and leaders, we learn that much of what xians believe to be divine, pure, salubrious, and supernatural actually have no scientific or rational basis.

    And of course, you don’t have to “sour from the founts” (giggles some more); rational evidence and experiment suffices, with a helping of Occam’s Razor.

  18. 18
    Artor

    Wow. So Ted Nugent is an ignorant, blathering fucktard. Who knew?

  19. 19
    Moggie

    the next tsunami of insults should drive any American addicted to common sense crazy

    He has a really strange way with language. Addicted to common sense? Addiction is normally regarded as a bad thing.

  20. 20
    janiceintoronto

    Why is this man walking the streets?

    He very obviously needs help.

    Clearly delusional.

    Hmmm, probably can’t afford the health care.

  21. 21
    democommie

    Maybe the (pant)Nug(g)e(t) is coming out with a new cd and he has a song on it called, “Voodoo Hoodoo” as a sort of ouvre “bookend” with his other masterwork, “Wango Tango”. It’s just a marketing hook.

    “Voodoo = Nugent’s generational slang for heathen religions, AKA other people’s religion.”

    Gretchen, I doubt very much that the Tedbagger has spent any time contemplating the nature of his immortal soul in many, many years.

  22. 22
    iknklast

    Ted Nugent, again. I thought the right were the ones who always told entertainers involved in politics to shut up and sing? Wait – that’s only when they are involved in left-wing politics. Right-wing entertainers are good citizens just exercising their civic rights and civic duty. They don’t need to shut up and sing.

    Time Magazine selected Ted Nugent to write the essay on Wayne LaPierre for their 100 most influential people issue. It’s pretty much what you would expect, but perhaps a slight bit toned down for the medium of a venerable (meaning old fart) magazine like Time.

  23. 23
    Synfandel

    …began his voodoo-inspired rampage in yet another gun-free zone.

    Gun-free? Fort Hood, Texas? Texas has a population of about 24 million men, women, and children and about 51 million personal firearms. It has more firearms than have the 300 million people in the European Union. Maybe he meant “free gun zone”.

  24. 24
    Moggie

    iknklast, I don’t want Ted Nugent to shut up and sing. I want him to shut up and shut up.

  25. 25
    Raging Bee

    Ted Nugent, again. I thought the right were the ones who always told entertainers involved in politics to shut up and sing?

    I remember when Nugent was obsesively and incessantly bashing Ozzy Osborne for being a druggie and setting a bad example for the kids, or something. Which makes it all the more amusing — in a make-fun-of-homeless-drunks sort of way — when Nugent turns out to be this much more ridiculous than Ozzy.

  26. 26
    Raging Bee

    Time Magazine selected Ted Nugent to write the essay on Wayne LaPierre for their 100 most influential people issue.

    Just one more reason never to spend one more penny, or one more second, on Time Magazine.

  27. 27
    reverendrodney

    Ted Nugent, brave hunter, who machine guns wild animals from a helicopter; true patriot, who dodged the draft; an example for kids, who gave up a child for adoption; a rock star for Republicans (washed up has-been).
    Why does anybody listen to him? Because he’s the best they have.

  28. 28
    timgueguen

    To be fair to the Motor City Misanthrope military bases are no doubt gun free zones when it comes to your own guns. You’re not supposed to be running around with a gun unless your current duty or training exercise requires it. Private Smith isn’t allowed to be packing his personal Glock, unlike a private citizen walking down a Texas street.

  29. 29
    ArtK

    And the trial will take a long time not because of defense lawyers but because of the prosecution. Defense attorneys don’t want their clients sitting in jail for a long time. When speedy trials don’t happen, it’s almost always because of the government, not the accused, and it sure as hell isn’t because they’re so intent on lavishing the defendant with undeserved due process rights.

    Sorry Ed, but you’re wrong. It is the defendant who causes all of the delay by not pleading guilty immediately. Or, even better, committing suicide-by-cop when caught. After all, they must be guilty or they wouldn’t have been arrested, amirite?* Let’s skip those long boring trials and get right to the exciting punishment phase. I’m sure that if executions were public, old Ted would be buying a front row seat.

    (* The exception being good God-fearing white Republican males who are never guilty, because it’s always a liberal plot to discredit them.)

  30. 30
    raven

    From #17

    This article probes into the traditions, customs, practices, and rites of Islam, which are largely based on Arab Bedouins’ society of Mohammed’s time.

    In a modern world, these Islamic customs and traditions are no more than superstitious beliefs and irrational acts — better known as voodoo practices. These Islamic Voodoos encompass practically every aspect of a Muslim’s life — from birth to death.

    There are Islamic voodoos for angels, animals, biology, sorcery, resurrection, soul, Satan, hygiene, women, medicine, toilet practices and so on.

    Souring [sic] from the founts of Islam, such as the Qur’an and ahadith, we learn that much of what the Muslims believe to be divine, pure, salubrious, and supernatural actually have no scientific or rational basis.

    It was obvious Nugent was insulting Islam by lumping it in with Voodoo.

    They do have a point. Islam is derived from ancient middle eastern tribal cultures.

    Of course, so is xianity and Judaism. In fact, from more or less the exact same middle eastern tribal cultures.

    Some forms of xianity and Judaism have evolved a bit, except for the fundies and ultra-orthodox. And we’ve put them in boxes to keep them from slaughtering each other and the rest of us

  31. 31
    william boyd

    There are photographs of Dhokar setting his bomb RIGHT NEXT TO AN 8-YEAR-OLD BOY. I don’t know what the wingnut issue is with civilian v military trial, but this guy will not do well in a jury trial.

  32. 32
    DaveL

    Don’t be so hard on The Nuge, the strain of being either dead or in jail takes its toll on the psyche of a free man.

  33. 33
    Michael Heath

    Is Ted Nugent getting more idiotic or is he just writing to the level of the audience that respects WND content?

  34. 34
    John Pieret

    What he doesn’t realize, apparently, is that Hasan’s trial is taking place in a military court, not a civilian one. You know, the ones that the wingnuts are demanding for Tsarnaev because, they argue, they won’t have to worry about all that pesky due process stuff.

    A correction, Ed. Hasan is not facing a military commission but a regular courts martial. The Uniform Code of Military Justice (at least when I was in the Army in the 1970s … I haven’t kept up with it since then) has pretty much all the due process protections as civilian courts and some extra ones (examples: Miranda rights mandated for all suspects, not just those in custody, and the right to 2 free military attorneys). There is no Grand Jury but there is an hearing where, unlike most grand juries, the defendant has the right to present evidence to refute his/her guilt. There also is a rather stringent speedy trial provision. On the other hand, the conviction rate in military courts is quite high but at least part of that is due to the fact that, if the military doesn’t want to bother with trying someone where there is a close question of guilt, they can just administratively discharge the offender and send him back to the civian world to worry about.

  35. 35
    ambulocetacean

    Chechen/Dagestani voodoo? I’m picturing a little old woman in the ruins of Grozny furiously knitting-needling a doll labelled “Putin”.

  36. 36
    stubby

    “Beck could learn something from Ted Nugent. Ted is not afraid of speaking his mind and backing up what he has to say. He’s the kind of guy we need in the White House, not the sorry excuse we have there now, Joe Bidens puppet.”

    I can’t believe I didn’t recognize Biden for the evil mastermind he is.

  37. 37
    lofgren

    Mama always said, racist is as racist does.

  38. 38
    greenspine

    Some selections from the comments section:

    Dip ‘em in PIGS Blood…. No Virgins for them… even if the “Virgins” are GAY.

    Nope! Them puppys are formed in the womb and Dna! I mean, they are multiple centuries of inbred, murdering, suicidal, religious, self imposed martyrs, that in their mind, go to heaven and kick back with 49 virgins and an open wine bar with no end.

    Who needs stupid things like courts and trials. If I know he’s guilty, then he is guilty and should be punished as quick as possible.

    while we are at it stand the muslum traitor obama or what ever his damn muslum name is up next to the other ba-t–d is and make sure all rifles are loaded with bullits dipped in pigs blood

    The Nuge is just playing directly to his audience. He knows what the people he’s writing for want to hear, and how deranged, racist and stupid they are.

  39. 39
    dan4

    “…ba-t-d”

    There’s something amusingly contradictory about someone bleeping out their own friggin’ choice of words.

  40. 40
    dingojack

    Dan – Crosswordsolver.org suggests the verbs ‘baited’, ‘basted’ and ‘batted’ as solutions to ‘ba_t_d’,
    OneArcoss adds: banted [(v without object) (med.) to lose weight by Bantingism, or (n) a string, a measure of the springiness or strength of a material (dia. var. of 'band'?)]
    Crossword-solver.org (no not the same as the above) adds ‘Bactad’ [(n.) a local administrative area in the Philippines], ‘baetid’ [(n.) a member of, or similar in structure to, the Baetidae (Mayflies)], ‘Baltid’ [(n.) Having the supposed characteristics of the 'East Baltic Race' (used by eugenicists and other 'scientific' racists}], Båstad [(n.) name of county seat and municipality within Skåne County, Sweden] and ‘Bastid’ [see Murphy, Paul aka "Skratch Bastid"].
    Perhaps one of these was the intended meaning. (Or ignorant racists can’t spell, you decide).
    8D Dingo

  41. 41
    slc1

    Re John Pieret @ #34

    Relative to comparing courts martial trials with civilian trials, famed criminal defense attorney F. Lee Bailey, who had plenty of experience in both venues, once opined that if he were innocent of a crime, he would prefer to be tried by a court martial trial whereas if he were guilty of a crime, he would prefer to be tried by a civilian trial.

  42. 42
    John Pieret

    slc1:

    Thanks. I knew about the statement but couldn’t dredge who said it out of my aging, swiss cheese memory.

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