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Apr 18 2013

Extremist Jews Open Segregated Public Park

An ultra-orthodox Jewish sect that runs their own town in New York has opened what is reportedly the first sex-segregated public park in the United States, which is almost certainly unconstitutional and illegal under federal statute even if it were a private park.

This new sex segregated children’s playground was built in the city of Kiryas Joel in Monroe, New York on an area of ​​283 acres, which will fully separate little boys and girls.

The park, built on the outskirts of the city received special financing by Kiryas Joel Mayor Rabbi Abraham Wieder. The mayor received the blessing from all Satmar factions living in the city, according to reports.

City Treasurer, Rabbi Gedaliah Segedin, described the park as under the strict supervision of the Committee of Modesty of Kiryas Joel and under the watchful guidance of the Grand Rebbe, Rabbi Aharon Teitelbaum. The park is divided into four sections.

Section one is designed for fathers who come with their boys. The second section is designed for mothers who come with their girls. The third is for boys and the fourth is for girls.

They also say that non-Jews and even non-Haredi Jews won’t be allowed in the park at all. I can’t imagine how this could possibly be legal. Kiryas Joel is incorporated as a city and is thus bound by the 14th Amendment and by state and federal anti-discrimination law. And I’m sure Pam Geller will be screeching about this at any moment, right?

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  1. 1
    criticaldragon1177

    Ed Brayton

    Pamela Geller of course will say nothing about this. Even if someone bring it up in front of her on live TV she’ll probably make excuses since they’re not Muslims, and her hypocrisy and bigotry will show itself once again.

  2. 2
    Randomfactor

    Welfare town. Public support for private religious studies. Israel has the same problem.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryas_Joel,_New_York

  3. 3
    TGAP Dad

    Oh do I ever want to see video of people deliberately violating the segregation rules, and their encounters with the shomrim. Please, somebody do this and upload it to youtube!

  4. 4
    John Pieret

    There is some question whether the park was publicly or privately financed:

    http://gestetnerupdates.com/2013/04/14/kiryas-joel-ny-no-gov-funds-used-for-gender-segregated-playgrounds/

    One way they might get around the obvious problems would be to treat it like a private club (Augusta National comes to mind) and not a place of public accommodation, make all the homeowners and their children “members” and have club “rules” that require sex segregation.

  5. 5
    Doug Little

    Well shit the Catholics will be up in arms about this as there is no section for priests and alter boys.

  6. 6
    Quixotic James

    Sounds like a great location for a road trip.

  7. 7
    brianwestley

    Wouldn’t a completely private park be able to admit or exclude anyone? Sounds like it would just be a plot of land owned by someone. Is there some legal aspect of being a “park” that comes into play?

  8. 8
    theschwa

    Ed might have a point, but only if the mayor did not get the blessing from all Satmar factions living in the city.

    The mayor received the blessing from all Satmar factions living in the city, according to reports.

    Oh well, looks like this is legit!

  9. 9
    Abby Normal

    Creeping Halakha?

  10. 10
    Trebuchet

    Scary place, Kyrias Joel. Right up there with Ave Maria, FL; and Colorado City, AZ. And formerly, Antelope, OR.

  11. 11
    doublereed

    “Committee of Modesty”???

    I need a table to flip…

  12. 12
    gridlore

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

    There you go, doublereed. :)

  13. 13
    Doug Little

    gridlore,

    freakin sweet!

  14. 14
    SallyStrange

    Oh, but feminism and atheism are 100% totally completely separate concerns! Or so I’ve heard.

  15. 15
    SallyStrange

    Wouldn’t a completely private park be able to admit or exclude anyone? Sounds like it would just be a plot of land owned by someone. Is there some legal aspect of being a “park” that comes into play?

    IANAL. What I do know is that private businesses, which nevertheless exist to make money by serving the public, are not allowed to discriminate regardless of their private ownership. They can either serve anyone who walks in the door (with shoes and shirt of course) or they can serve nobody.

    I am guessing that parks fall under the same category. Do they charge admission? Does the admission do towards profiting the business?

    Private clubs are allowed to discriminate, but they are not operating under the expectation that any member of the public is going to come walking in the door anytime during business hours.

    I dunno. Interesting question though.

  16. 16
    madgastronomer

    Oh, but feminism and atheism are 100% totally completely separate concerns! Or so I’ve heard.

    They are. Atheism and secularism are not actually synonymous. People can be religious and still support a complete separation of church and state. And the proof of this is that many people do. People can also be feminist and religious, and again, the proof of this is that many people are. There are religions and denominations that specifically preach and support equality. You don’t have to like them any better, but they do exist. Insisting otherwise is to ignore reality.

  17. 17
    d.c.wilson

    Scary place, Kyrias Joel. Right up there with Ave Maria, FL; and Colorado City, AZ. And formerly, Antelope, OR.

    Clearwater, FL.

  18. 18
    amyjane

    Kiryas Joel again? They once convinced the NYS legislature to pay for an exclusive Special Ed school so their children wouldn’t be taught by outsiders, orbe expected to learn English. The Satmar community is small and for generations they have only married with in the group and had huge families so they have way more than their share of handicapped kids..Many of the families are on welfare because they have huge families and men have to study Torah.Men and women walk on separate sides of the street in their town. I grew up in the same county and have no use for them.

  19. 19
    Thumper: Who Presents Boxes Which Are Not Opened

    @madgeastronomer

    In any logical world:

    Atheism => Secularism => Feminism

  20. 20
    Infophile

    @19: Er, be careful about your use of symbols here. At my first read, I saw that as “greater than or equal to,” rather than “implies.” Others might not figure it out.

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