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Perkins: ‘Revolution’ if Court Backs Marriage Equality

The dire predictions from the wingnuts should the Supreme Court allow gay people to get married continue to pour in, though I suspect Tony Perkins thinks it would be a good thing if the revolution he says will occur actually happens. He went on — where else? — the Janet Mefferd show and spouted this:

Perkins: That’s a good example. I’m just finishing my daily update that I’m going to be sending out and I made reference to France, you know support for natural marriage is coming from the most unlikely places, hundreds of thousands of people now have turned out multiple times in France to support natural marriage, young and old alike. It’s very important. We’ve been saying this all along that Americans need to speak out because the court likes to hold itself as being above public opinion, that they live in this ivory tower and don’t pay any attention to what’s going on; they do. I believe the court will push as far as they think they can without creating a social upheaval or a political upheaval in this country. They’re smart people, I think, they understand how organizations and how societies work and if you get your substructure out of kilter with the superstructure, if you get government out of whack with where the people are and it goes too far, you create revolution. I think you could see a social and cultural revolution if the court goes too far on this.

It’s almost cute that they think the rest of the world is as obsessed with punishing gay people and keeping them down as they are. You know what will happen if the Supreme Court were to declare, in highly unlikely fashion, that marriage equality is mandatory nationwide? There would be a huge spasm of outrage over it from the wingnuts; Perkins and the rest of the religious right would raise boatloads of money from it; and then…nothing. The excitement would fade, everyone would return to their regular lives and Perkins and his fellow loonies would be ranting to smaller and smaller audiences as people realize that nothing has changed for them at all as a result. And in 10 or 20 years, nearly everyone will think about them the same way we think about the racist preachers and the KKK of the 50s and 60s.

Comments

  1. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    You think it’ll take as long as 10 or 20 years?

    Reckon a lot of folks *already* think of opponents of equal marriage the same way they do about those old opponents of interracial marriage.

  2. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    He went on — where else? — the Janet Mefferd show

    Never heard of that show before. I take it its bad? Guess having Tony Perkins on kinda proves that.

  3. slc1 says

    I wonder what percentage of the marchers in France were Muslims? I bet it was non-negligible.

  4. says

    “Perkins: That’s a good example. I’m just finishing my daily update that I’m going to be sending out and I made reference to France, you know support for natural marriage is coming from the most unlikely places, hundreds of thousands of people now have turned out multiple times in France to support natural marriage,”

    Yeah, because bigotry, in France, is as rare as Krugerrand shitting unicorns. Hey, don’t take my word for it; ask the Hugenots, the jews, the algerians…

    I like the other Tony Perkins better, the one who only ACTED like a sociopathic asshole.

  5. laurentweppe says

    I wonder what percentage of the marchers in France were Muslims? I bet it was non-negligible

    It was close to zero: traditionalists muslim organizations tried to mobilize their crowds, but the anti-gay marriage march was dominated by the far-right and endorsed by “moderate” right-wing oliticians willing to pander to racists to win elections. Most french Muslims try to avoid these crowds.

  6. unbound says

    About 1/2 of 1% of the French protested at the aforementioned rally. Keep in mind that France is about the size of 2 US midwestern states, so getting a bunch of people together is not nearly the logistics (and cost) issue as it is in the US. So it wasn’t as big of a deal as it is implied…and it is also completely irrelevant that a few people think it is somehow wrong.

    As for revolution, it seems like the tea party has been conducting its war in the US for a number of years now. Just look at all of the government imposed morality bills working their way through the state legislatures. Seems like they are in mid-revolt now…

  7. raven says

    As for revolution, it seems like the tea party has been conducting its war in the US for a number of years now

    Since around 1860.

    The Tea Party is mostly the old south. The confederacy. The place where states still fly the confederate flag over their capitals.

    They really haven’t done well outside of that area. Certainly not on the west coast or the Northeast. Damnyankees, all of them.

    There were a few Tea Party candidates in my area. They got something like 30-35% of the vote. It isn’t much more than the crazifaction factor. 20% of the US population thinks the sun orbits the earth and will believe anything, no matter how wrong it is.

    In my area, Romney signs outnumbered Obama signs about 10 to 1. I didn’t put up an Obama sign because I figured it would be vandalized. Romney didn’t get much more of the vote than the Tea Partiers.

  8. laurentweppe says

    About 1/2 of 1% of the French protested at the aforementioned rally. Keep in mind that France is about the size of 2 US midwestern states, so getting a bunch of people together is not nearly the logistics (and cost) issue as it is in the US. So it wasn’t as big of a deal as it is implied…

    If I may add some precisions:

    When the french Right gets really pissed, yout get 1 million people in the streets

    When the french Left gets moderately pissed you get two to three million people in the streets
    When the french Left gets really pissed, Paris burns and a sizable chunk of the upper class ends up with their heads on spikes.

    The anti gay marriage protests gathered around 350.000 people.

    Which is why the french government reaction so far is to not give a shit about the protests.

  9. Pierce R. Butler says

    unbound @ # 7: … France is about the size of 2 US midwestern states, so getting a bunch of people together is not nearly the logistics (and cost) issue as it is in the US.

    And they have a much more functional railway system than any two US midwestern states. Quel fromage!

  10. Didaktylos says

    Another thing about the French – they invented Tea Party-ism: look up Pierre Poujade.

  11. Phillip IV says

    I believe the court will push as far as they think they can without creating a social upheaval or a political upheaval in this country.

    Yeah, he’s definitely got Scalia’s and Alito’s numbers down. You know, those radical progressives, whose impulse to fundamentally reshape society is only limited by tactical considerations. At least in Tony Perkin’s world.

  12. says

    To be fair, the anti-government revolution would’ve gone much farther than it has by now, but the batteries in the revolutionaries’ government-provided scooters don’t have much range.

  13. Ben P says

    They’re smart people, I think, they understand how organizations and how societies work and if you get your substructure out of kilter with the superstructure, if you get government out of whack with where the people are and it goes too far, you create revolution.

    I wonder if Tony Perkins knows that he’s pushing doctrinaire Marxism?

  14. hunter says

    You notice he doesn’t make any reference to the turn out for NOM’s “March for Marriage” — which they first pegged at 15,000, then 10,000. The official estimate was 3,000.

    Yeah, Perkins has started working the “revolution” mantra. You notice how that affected the last group of Senators to come out in support of SSM. Obviously quaking in their boots.

  15. laurentweppe says

    I wonder if Tony Perkins knows that he’s pushing doctrinaire Marxism?

    Nothing is more marxist than a bourgeois fighting to keep his privilege: they, more than anyone else, believe in class warfare.

  16. dingojack says

    “… I made reference to France, you know support for natural marriage is coming from the most unlikely places, hundreds of thousands of people now have turned out multiple times in France to support natural marriage, young and old alike“.

    Hmmm – smells like protest-envy.
    350,000 French protesters are about 0.53% of the population (hardly numbers to make the Capital quake); 3,000 American protesters are 0.0009474% of the population* (just about enough to raise the interest of two small boys and a stray dog in Mayberry). Guess those ‘evul’, ‘effete’ & ‘socialistic’ French are 559 times more against marriage equality than America’s ‘True Patriots & God’s Anointed’. Go figure!
    @@
    Dingo
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    * the NOM protest would have had to attract about 1.678 million Americans to equal the French protests.
    (approx. 118,000 in Australia, 336,000 in the UK or 183,000 in Canada).

  17. dingojack says

    To put my post above in some perspective: The Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras attracted over 300,000 spectators and 8,500 participants in 2011 (over 1.39% of Australia’s population, or about 2.61 times the French protests and about 1461 times the NOM ‘protest’ [if one can call it that] based on population size).
    Dingo

  18. hunter says

    To add a little more on that, the Chicago Gay Pride Parade has been attracting around 750,000 visitors and participants for the past couple of years. The population of the Chicago metro area (which is big enough to be one of the three “supermetropolitan” areas in the US) is just shy of 9.5 million. That ‘s just under 8%, which for a “local” event is not bad. And just to rub salt into the wingnut wound, people bring their kids — it’s a family outing.

  19. dingojack says

    (308,500 persons is about 6⅔% of Sydney’s population, not as good as Chicago, but give us another 35 yrs…).
    ;) Dingo

  20. says

    I wish all these conservative idiots would threaten to hold their breath and turn blue, if marriage equality happens. Sheesh!

    I used to think biblical times were probably a gigantic clusterfuck of people going around screaming “god’ll burn you if you do that!” “which god!?” “aaaaaaah!” and calling down the (never-appearing) wrath on eachother, etc. I figured that was a thing humanity left behind after the enlightenment, but apparently those guys all just moved to cable.

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