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Jackson: No Sexual Abuse With Mother and Father

Bishop Harry Jackson, one of the most cravenly bigoted people in the anti-equality movement, delivered a fiery sermon to the small crowd at the rally against marriage equality in DC earlier this week, claiming that in regular mommy-daddy homes, sexual abuse of children does not happen.

God has given us a blueprint for how to have success in the earthly realm. He’s given us an architectural plan of how to heal the barren places in urban America. He says that marriage between a man and a woman will heal the desert places in urban America. Ghettos will be revitalized if one man, one woman families are the order of the day. When a man and a woman are in the house, poverty is lessened. When a man and a woman are in the house, kids don’t go to prison. When a man and a woman are in the house, there’s less domestic violence. When a man and a woman are in the house, sexual abuse does not happen.

The mind boggles.

Comments

  1. says

    Too bad his last name is “Jackson” and not “Johnson”; the latter would be more apt.

    Nothing says “KKKristian Love” like a black minister rantin’ on another group of oppressed people. What a fucking tool.

  2. Pierce R. Butler says

    At first I thought this somehow pertained to another Jackson, a fellow named Mike or something like that.

    Had two parents and – therefore – a perfectly normal childhood, that one.

  3. raven says

    Another liar.

    Actually child sexual abuse is higher among fundie xians.

    The second highest predictor of child sexual abuse is membership in conservative xian churches. The first is drug and alcohol abuse by the father.

  4. Jackie, Ms. Paper if ya nasty says

    This ass just denied the abuse of so many children in this country. What a jerk.

  5. raven says

    From “Sexual Abuse in Christian Homes and Churches”, by Carolyn Holderread Heggen, Herald Press, Scotdale, PA, 1993 p. 73:

    “A disturbing fact continues to surface in sex abuse research. The first best predictor of abuse is alcohol or drug addiction in the father.

    But the second best predictor is conservative religiosity, accompanied by parental belief in traditional male-female roles.

    This means that if you want to know which children are most likely to be sexually abused by their father, the second most significant clue is *whether or not the parents belong to a conservative religious group with traditional role beliefs and rigid sexual attitudes*. (Brown and Bohn, 1989; Finkelhor, 1986; Fortune, 1983; Goldstein et al, 1973; Van
    Leeuwen, 1990). (emphasis in original)

    There are the facts.

  6. says

    Stewart’s response to Scalia applies here: anyone who’s claiming that “traditional marriage” is good for kids, obviously hasn’t watched enough cable TV.

  7. Phillip IV says

    God has given us a blueprint for how to have success in the earthly realm.

    There must have been some errors in transmissions with it, though. For back when we went by that blueprint, we had shit running in the streets and a live expectancy in the low forties, no civil rights and constant wars…not exactly signs of success in the earthly realm.

  8. Doug Little says

    When a man and a woman are in the house, there’s less domestic violence.

    Isn’t this pretty much a blue print for domestic violence??

  9. Moggie says

    I’ve got a feeling that he’s conflating a number of things here. As far as the sexual abuse part is concerned, he may be mangling the “Cinderella Effect”, whereby (supposedly) step-parents commit more child abuse (of all kinds) than biological parents. He’s saying that, for a number of reasons, it’s better for parents to stay together, if possible.

    Of course, he should have said “two parents” rather than “a man and a woman”. Best way to reduce sexual abuse of kids? Lesbian parents. As I understand it, men are far more likely than women to sexually abuse kids.

  10. jamessweet says

    From the context, I think it’s pretty clear that he was speaking hyperbolically. Not that this excuses it at all; even if his intended meaning was that sexual abuse is incredibly rare in his preferred family arrangement, he’s still terribly wrong.

  11. zmidponk says

    Well, when you take into account the whole thing about how a husband cannot rape his wife, according to some, it kinda makes sense that it’s equally the case that a parent cannot sexually abuse their child. Of course, to everyone outside that twisted world view (you know, sane people), both ideas are ludicrous and horrifying, but it does make sense within it.

  12. steve oberski says

    Well, if he had been a catholic his claim would have been believable, as that flavour of fundie outsources their child abuse to paid professionals.

  13. iknklast says

    Well, I guess this means my mother was right, after all. I must have just been imagining the abuse, both sexual and otherwise. After all, I had both a mother and a father, and they remained together until my mother’s death. Silly me. I could have just saved all that therapy, and gone to Bishop Jackson. He could have set me straight, and I wouldn’t have cried as a kid from all my wounds. They wouldn’t have hurt, because I’d have realized trhey were imaginary.

    Thanks for denying the reality of not only my life, but the lives of many other children throughout history, Bishop.

  14. hunter says

    Moggie @10: to put the icing on the cake, straight men are much more likely to sexually abuse children than gay men.

    Jackson’s about as wrong as it gets on that one.

  15. jws1 says

    @#14: My deepest sympathies to you for your experiences and respect for your personal strength.

    About your comment: this is another reason to completely disregard the religionists’ claim to being “pro-life.” To be able to ignore real evil committed on precious young life is is as anti-life as I can imagine.

  16. dan4 says

    @4: You make a contemporaneous claim and then try to back it up @6…with a book published in 1993. Yes, because statistics, facts, etc. never ever change over a (nearly) twenty-year period.

  17. says

    When a man and a woman are in the house, there’s less domestic violence. When a man and a woman are in the house, sexual abuse does not happen.

    Bollocks. My abuse all happened with a man (my abuser) and a woman (me) in the house, and my abuser hit the fucking trifecta, man, with mind-fuckery, physical abuse, and sexual abuse.

    I’m feeling some particularly violent urges right now — and feeling totally guilty about it.

  18. raven says

    @4: You make a contemporaneous claim and then try to back it up @6…with a book published in 1993. Yes, because statistics, facts, etc. never ever change over a (nearly) twenty-year period.

    So what?

    Cultural changes are slow. Twenty years for this kind of study is no big deal.

    It’s also about as contemporaneouus as it is going to get. These studies aren’t easy to do and aren’t done often.

    I’ve got an idea dan4. Instead of carping and babbling, why don’t you find a more current study, say from 2012 that has some more up to date statistics on family child sexual abuse by religious affiliation.

    I realize that takes work and thought and might be light years beyond being a mindless troll, but as you say, 20 years is a long time. If you start now, you could be done by 2033.

  19. raven says

    @4: You make a contemporaneous claim and then try to back it up @6…with a book published in 1993. Yes, because statistics, facts, etc. never ever change over a (nearly) twenty-year period.

    Cultural changes are slow.

    The Mormons abolished polygamy in the late 1800’s. Utah and surrounding areas still have 60,000 or so polygamists.

    Creationism predates the invention of xianity. There are still tens of million of creationists in the USA.

    There are still Flat Earthers around and 26% of fundie xians believe the sun orbits the earth, Geocentrism.

    The Germ Theory of Disease is over a century old and has been a wildly successful theory. Lifespans have gone up 30 years in a century in the USA. An unknown but large number of xians still believe that disease is caused by demonic possession and can be cured by faith healing.

  20. raven says

    Children in low socioeconomic status households are 3 times as likely to be identified as a victim of child abuse (Sedlack, et. al., 2010).

    Children who live in rural areas are almost 2 times more likely to be identified as victims of child sexual abuse (Sedlack, et. al., 2010).

    Dan4, here is some corroborating data from 2010.

    According to this study, children from low socioeconomic families and rural families have a notably higher risk of being abused.

    Fundie xians score low in intelligence, education, socioeconomic status, and tend to be found in rural areas.

    OK, dan4, where are your facts? You haven’t yet provided a single one.

  21. baal says

    gah – “claiming that in regular mommy-daddy homes, sexual abuse of children does not happen.” <–lying asshole. Flat wrong. I've never seen any data that remotely suggests a children with two parents are not abused.

    @dan4 wrong as ever. Given the clarity of the studies (which in sociology tend to be murky) and no changes to the overall religious mindset, it's your burden to suggest a likely mechanism for what's changed and not Raven's (great stuff!).

    Also, of all the folks I know who had abusive childhoods, they all had married conservative religious parents at the time of abuse. It's a small sample set but I had a first hand seat in seeing the churches push for not taking matters to the law and for taking an active roll in getting the man remarried to a women with kids – just to show that he was now reformed and a family was just what he needed to set him straight…guess what. Reform is not what happens.

    @WMDkitty, while I get after you from time to time about how you comment, how you feel is how you feel. It's very normal to feel violent towards those who have done you wrong. There are 2 people (not my parents) on the planet I'd not shed a tear for were they rendered to Syria for torture. I don't feel guilty for that. I may even dance on their graves one of these days since both are less healthy and older than me.

  22. dan4 says

    @24. No, it’s raven’s burden to suggest that a study published in 1993 is relevant to a contemporaneous claim s/he is making in 2013.

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