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Mar 22 2013

Farah Compares Portman’s Son to Serial Killer

The wingnuts continue to lose their minds over Sen. Rob Portman changing his position on marriage equality. Andrea Lafferty said his son being gay was like being a drunk driver. Bryan Fischer went for bank robber instead. But Joseph Farah, eager to stake his claim to being the biggest asshole of the three, skips right to serial killer.

I’ve heard some wacky excuses by politicians for changing their minds on some of the most important moral issues facing American, but Ohio Sen. Rob Portman’s rationale for flip-flopping on same-sex marriage takes the proverbial wedding cake.

In case you haven’t heard, his son is a homosexual.

“I have come to believe that if two people are prepared to make a lifetime commitment to love and care for each other in good times and in bad, the government shouldn’t deny them the opportunity to get married,” Portman wrote in a commentary published Friday in the Columbus Dispatch.

I guess we should all be grateful Rob Portman’s son didn’t choose to become a polygamist or a serial killer.

Why? Because he thinks that Portman would be okay with his son being a serial killer? And that being a serial killer is anything remotely like being gay?

Few are willing to say it anymore, but I will: Morality is determined by God, not men.

Actually, billions and billions of people are willing to say it. But none of them has yet shown that there is a god to be the source of morality. Which makes this claim pretty much useless.

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  1. 1
    Bronze Dog

    Divine Command Theory. Might as well make your moral decisions with a pair of dice. That’s what it boils down to. Their god threw the dice and made up an arbitrary set of rules for no reason whatsoever. It’s a denial that there is such a thing as moral reasoning.

  2. 2
    Gretchen

    Few are willing to say it anymore, but I will: Morality is determined by God, not men.

    And God, as it turns out, is gay.

    What now, Mr. Farah?

  3. 3
    fifthdentist

    Comparison of teh ghey to Hitler in 3, 2, 1 …

  4. 4
    iangould

    “Morality is determined by God, not men.”

    Yes, for example, God clears lays out in the Bible the rumors on who it’s permissible ot own as slaves; when it’s permissible to sell your children into slavery and how masters should treat their slaves.

  5. 5
    democommie

    GOD’s Triune according to these folks, why can’t he be both hetero and teh GAY? Oh, because that wouldn’t be right? Okay, I get it.

  6. 6
    iangould

    Not “rumors’ “rules”

    duh.

  7. 7
    Gregory in Seattle

    “Morality is determined by God, not men.”

    Which god, Mr. Farah, of the dozens in current use? Goodness, not even Christians can agree on which one to worship. And why that one, to the exclusion of all others? The Flying Spaghetti Monster has no problem with gay people; His Noodliness even promises male strippers in Heaven for those whose tastes run in that direction.

  8. 8
    Avo, also nigelTheBold

    Morality is determined by God, not men.

    Again: behavioral rules dictated by authority are not morality, but laws. The Bible can dictate laws, but not morality.

    The only way to turn it into morality is to say: the most important thing of all is to obey God. But then you have to claim that it is more important to avoid offending God than to treat your fellow humans with love, kindness, and respect. Also, you have to claim you have the only correct interpretation of God’s laws (which seems ludicrous, considering the many diverging interpretations of the Bible alone). And then you have to admit to yourself your an authoritarian asshole who just wants to tell everyone else what to do, and you don’t want to think of all the squidgy things people in love might do, and same-sex marriage reminds you people do all kinds of squidgy things, not just the squidgy things you like to do.

    Or, to paraphrase one of those Facebook pictures making the rounds, isn’t it funny how a country founded in part on freedom of religion is now using religion to curtail freedom?

  9. 9
    watry

    His Noodliness even promises male strippers in Heaven for those whose tastes run in that direction.

    As an asexual who cannot drink, I’ve often wondered what His Noodly Appendages have in store for us. It’s been a few years since I looked over the Book, though, I may have just forgotten.

  10. 10
    sumdum

    I’m glad he included the quote about loving and caring for each other, cause the more often his own audience reads it, the greater the chance they’ll see the logic of it.

  11. 11
    oranje

    Comparing homosexuality to serial killers and, wait, polygamists? Has he read the bible?

  12. 12
    Gregory in Seattle

    @watry #9 – There are the beer volcanoes, and I’m pretty sure She (what gender does a bowl of pasta have, anyway?) has non-alcoholic stuff that tastes… well, heavenly. If nothing else, I bet the conversations will be amazing.

  13. 13
    Phillip IV

    I guess we should all be grateful Rob Portman’s son didn’t choose to become a polygamist or a serial killer.

    Actually, if Portman’s son had chosen to be a serial killer, and Portman would have reacted by saying he thinks his son shouldn’t have easy access to assault rifles after his release, the reaction from the right wing would have been exactly the same.

  14. 14
    oranje

    @watry: I’m kind of hoping for unlimited ski-ball and a crane game filled with good stuffed animals, myself.

  15. 15
    Doug Little

    Morality is determined by God, not men.

    And since god was conceived by men it’s safe to say that the objective morality of such a god is just the objective morality of the men that created it.

  16. 16
    pacal

    Sen. Rob Portman don’t you just fee the love from your fellow so-called “Conservatives”! UGH!

  17. 17
    tommykey

    Few are willing to say it anymore, but I will: Morality is determined by God, not men.

    Actually, based on my observations, a lot of people are still willing to say it. Still doesn’t make it true. It’s just an attempt to wrap one’s own subjective preferences in the guise of divine command.

  18. 18
    birgerjohansson

    The Greek gods were probably bisexual, at least the male ones.
    And I think one of the Egyptian ones was gay, too.
    — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
    The pre-contact consensus morality of several tribes in Papua was that killing and eating people from rival tribes was OK. And their spirits and gods were OK with it.

  19. 19
    zippythepinhead

    “… he thinks that Portman would be okay with his son being a serial killer?”

    Hey! Don’t knock serial killers. Think of all the great dramas and movies inspired by serial killers like Criminal Minds and Silence of the Lambs.

  20. 20
    lldayo

    Oh no, the infamous, conservative, triple dog dare!

  21. 21
    Scientismist

    Actually, billions and billions of people are willing to say it. But none of them has yet shown that there is a god to be the source of morality. Which makes this claim pretty much useless.

    Rather depends on your definition of “useless”. When the task at hand is to do harm to other people’s lives in the name of “morality”, while refusing to take any responsibility for your own prejudices and hatreds ..then Divine Command Theory can become quite useful. A hateful God means never having to say you’re sorry.

  22. 22
    Spanish Inquisitor

    And God, as it turns out, is gay.

    What now, Mr. Farah?

    So true. I mean, we never hear about Mrs. God, now do we? And then there are all those archangels, and not a woman among them…

  23. 23
    lofgren

    And then there are all those archangels, and not a woman among them…

    Everybody knows angels have eight vaginas and a bouquet of phalli.

  24. 24
    kermit.

    The morality of the samurai. The lord says “kill”, and the samurai unsheathes his sword and a peasant’s head rolls on the ground. God cannot be held to any moral standards but his own (he is by some theological standards, but very rarely by a fundamentalist), so his commands are by definition “moral”. And since he is unfathomable, and therefore unpredictable, his commands are arbitrary and unpredictable.
    .
    Worse, since his commands are whatever some human somewhere says they are, Christians are generally ungrounded, moral nihilists. To the degree that they are “Good” by authoritarian, fundamentalist standards, they are unpredictable and evil. To the degree that they are good by liberal standards they are secularized
    .
    I do not take moral instruction from somebody who attempts to follow the commands of an imaginary being who is OK with genocide, rape, and slavery. This would be wrong on many levels.

  25. 25
    marcus

    I’m with kermit.

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