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Why Republicans Can’t Reach Out to Black Voters

One of the panel discussions at CPAC last week focused on how the Republican Party could more effectively reach out to minority voters. It featured K. Carl Smith of the Frederick Douglass Republicans, but one of the audience members, who claims to be a descendant of Jefferson Davis, showed exactly why the GOP has such a problem reaching black voters. Watch this video:

ThinkProgress interviewed the guy afterward:

After the exchange, Terry muttered under his breath, “why can’t we just have segregation?” noting the Constitution’s protections for freedom of association…

ThinkProgress spoke with Terry, who sported a Rick Santorum sticker and attended CPAC with a friend who wore a Confederate Flag-emblazoned t-shirt, about his views after the panel. Terry maintained that white people have been “systematically disenfranchised” by federal legislation.

When asked by ThinkProgress if he’d accept a society where African-Americans were permanently subservient to whites, he said “I’d be fine with that.” He also claimed that African-Americans “should be allowed to vote in Africa,” and that “all the Tea Parties” were concerned with the same racial problems that he was.

At one point, a woman challenged him on the Republican Party’s roots, to which Terry responded, “I didn’t know the legacy of the Republican Party included women correcting men in public.”

Gosh, I can’t imagine why black and women voters wouldn’t want to associate with that guy, can you?

Comments

  1. Doug Little says

    Holy fucking fuck. How does anyone take these people seriously?

    47% do if the last election is anything to go by.

  2. iknklast says

    I would love to hear Robert Ingersoll give these folks a little history lesson on the Republican Party.

  3. schism says

    Terry maintained that white people have been “systematically disenfranchised” by federal legislation.

    I assume this started after the 2012 election, ’cause I sure didn’t have any trouble voting then.

  4. says

    Finally saw the movie Lincoln. It made me daydream about what life would be like today of we didn’t have the ball-and-chain of the reality-denying, science-spurning, racist ex-confederate states tying us down.

  5. abb3w says

    By enfranchising women and minorities, it dilutes the votes of and thus in effect disenfranchises white males? Either that, or he’s just using “disenfranchise” as a phatic signal with meaning on the lines of “I don’t get what I vote for — WAAHHHH”.

  6. Thorne says

    I liked the part where the white guy in the audience, when told that Frederick Douglass forgave his former owners, asked: “For what? Given him shelter and food all those years?”

    It’s obvious that this man would be quite happy to be forcibly taken from his home in chains, sold to people who speak a different language and forced to perform hard labor. He’d be delighted to have whatever family he might have managed to make taken away from him and sold. Just make sure you feed him, even if it’s the slops that your own family won’t eat, and shelter, even if it is only a broken down old shack with no floors and a leaky roof. Must sound like red-neck heaven to that yahoo!

  7. ragingapathy says

    Reginald —

    You didn’t know? Tom Metzger is now in the English Lit canon. Coz he wrote in English, after all.

  8. says

    The thing that bothers me the most is that I’m only finding out about this by reading Dispatches. This is exactly the kind of stuff the lame-stream media should be putting on the nightly news, so that voters truly can be informed. To be fair, the media should also air any similar Democrat faux pas… even if the ratio of R to D outlandish statements is 1000 to 1.

  9. DaveL says

    . It made me daydream about what life would be like today of we didn’t have the ball-and-chain of the reality-denying, science-spurning, racist exwannabe-confederate states people tying us down.

    After 150 years of migration, you’ll find them pretty much everywhere.

  10. chrislrob says

    Ed, I beg to differ. The man that black people really don’t want to be associated with is K. Carl Smith. Black conservatives are just a sorry bunch of human beings. And no self-respecting black person has any business in the Republican Party. Join up and it won’t be long before you’ll be like K. Carl Smith, pleading with a racist segregationist to please listen to your side–which apparently doesn’t involve standing against racial segregation–and throwing Frederick Douglass under the bus in the bargain.

    Eating shit is simply a job requirement for black Republicans. I always laugh when they say, “The only racism I encounter comes from Democrats and black people!” Yeah. Okay. Whatever.

    Later, Smith sat down with a conservative site and said after a few minutes of a good talking to, the segregationist was converted to Frederick Douglass Republicanism–he even bought Smith’s book!–and they departed as friends.

    Oh! And he said that the black woman that asked why he equated today’s Democratic Party to the KKK was the disruptive force in the room–not the racist. He said that.

    Bah! Too irritated to type more. The GOP sending black Republicans to recruit black people is like a butcher sending lamb chops to recruit sheep.

  11. says

    If this article is reporting the same thing as the OP, then these people are from my alma mater, Towson University. They are an unrecognized group calling itself the White Student Union (to be “similar” to the Black Student Union and the Queer Student Union). They started out as a branch of the Youth for Western Civilization, but they lost their faculty advisor last year and had to disband. They’ve been causing quite a bit of PR trouble for the university.

  12. Ben P says

    He claimed to be a direct descendent of Confederate President Jefferson Davis.

    A particular branch of my family (Paternal grandmother’s family) also had a story that they were relatives of Jefferson Davis. I did research on it when I traced my family history in college.

    Jefferson Davis had six children. Four of those children died childless before the age of 21. The fifth died childless at age 34. The only child to have children was Margaret Howell. She and her husband moved to Colorado after the civil war and what I found suggested her family stayed there, rather eager to forget that their grandfather was the president of the confederate republic.

    So anyone who lives in the deep south and claims to be a direct descendant of Jefferson Davis is either lying or bullshitting and repeating a family story without knowing whether it’s true.

  13. says

    Ben P, oh, come on! Have you no pride in your imagined history? Who wouldn’t rush to be on the family tree of a person on the losing end of a bad idea?

  14. thebookofdave says

    Looks like their outreach initiative is off to a good start. Conservatives are reaching out to the people in their place.

  15. davidworthington says

    I live–for a few weeks more–about 5 blocks from the house where Jeff Davis died. I walk by there a lot with my 3 dogs, there are 2 big markers there–I encourage my dogs to piss on the markers whenever possible.

  16. Michael Heath says

    eoraptor writes:

    The thing that bothers me the most is that I’m only finding out about this by reading Dispatches. This is exactly the kind of stuff the lame-stream media should be putting on the nightly news, so that voters truly can be informed. To be fair, the media should also air any similar Democrat faux pas… even if the ratio of R to D outlandish statements is 1000 to 1.

    I suggest skimming/reading the news aggregators Huffington Post (leftist) and The Drudge Report (conservative), along with Andrew Sullivan’s “Daily Dish” blog. I get your point goes beyond yourself, but this will provide you with a broad selection of articles which provides prospective to the ongoing partisan narrative.

  17. Rob says

    Thorne (7) – I know you were speaking with sarcasm/snark. The sad thing is that that guy would be horrified if that happened to him, but I suspect would be quite relaxed at the prospect of owning a slave or two and downright delighted at having a properly respectful and quiet woman at his beck and call.

    Excuse me while I wander off and find something to wash the taste of bile from my mouth.

  18. Tsu Dho Nimh says

    @7 ..,. ““For what? Given him shelter and food all those years?””

    Douglass “letter of forgiveness” points out that his owner rented him out for $7 to $8 dollars a week (presumably skilled labor) and took all the money. Not just what he owed for room and board, which in the 1830s was way less than that, but took it ALL

    http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/02/i-am-your-fellow-man-but-not-your-slave.html is the letter. Too bad that Terry didn’t have to study the vocabulary in that. Douglass had a way with words.

  19. atheist says

    I don’t really understand this hypocritical new phase of US conservatism. They won’t be able to reach out to many black voters and they don’t even really want to reach out to black voters. I wonder if this is some kind of evil, perverted ritual?

  20. Trebuchet says

    Jefferson Davis had six children. Four of those children died childless before the age of 21. The fifth died childless at age 34. The only child to have children was Margaret Howell. She and her husband moved to Colorado after the civil war and what I found suggested her family stayed there, rather eager to forget that their grandfather was the president of the confederate republic.

    So anyone who lives in the deep south and claims to be a direct descendant of Jefferson Davis is either lying or bullshitting and repeating a family story without knowing whether it’s true.

    That’s only WHITE children. I’d guess there’s a good possibility he fathered a black child or six. Perhaps the CPAC clown comes from one of them….

  21. says

    They won’t be able to reach out to many black voters and they don’t even really want to reach out to black voters. I wonder if this is some kind of evil, perverted ritual?

    They managed to fool the poor whites into supporting the plutocracy against their self-interest. I’m guessing that they figure if they can sell absurd ideas like “hey, fiscal responsibility means shovelling money to the wealthy and not cutting military expenditures – but you should thank us for cutting your social programs!” I mean, seriously, if they can sell that idea, they ought to be able to sell anyone on anything, including the idea that piss is better than beer and giving the wealthy a handout means there’s more money for the poor.

    Sometimes I wonder if there’s a committee that meets in a small dark room and looks at the numbers and says “holy shit! they swallowed that, too! let’s tell ‘em liberals are going to make the moon crash into Texas!” And a month later, “holy shit! what next? can we convince them that tar sands are a diet supplement? Let’s try that one and see if it fits through the overton window…”

  22. says

    Tsu Dho Nimh@#25
    Thank you for introducing me to “letters of note” – what a delightful site. I have work assignments due tomorrow and now I know I won’t begin working on them until after I’m done reading and savoring 885 more letters!

  23. Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :) says

    I don’t really understand this hypocritical new phase of US conservatism. They won’t be able to reach out to many black voters and they don’t even really want to reach out to black voters. I wonder if this is some kind of evil, perverted ritual?

    Well, they’d like to rope a few at least.

  24. F [nucular nyandrothol] says

    I can imagine why a two-by-four might want to associate itself with this guy.

  25. aluchko says

    I actually wasn’t that concerned with the video, nutjobs will show up at political gatherings and every once in a while a real yahoo will pop up in the audience.

    The concerning part was this

    “K. Carl Smith [the black speaker in the video] released a statement following the media storm related to the racist outburst in his panel. Astonishingly, he reserves the brunt of his criticism for the female reporter who raised objections to the comments being made in the room:
    […]
    In addition, a young man who wasn’t a Tea Party Patriot, made some racially insensitive comments, […]
    At the conclusion of the breakout session, I further explained to him the Frederick Douglass Republican Message which he embraced, bought a book, and we left as friends. ”

    A random yahoo in the audience is one thing, but K. Carl Smith had to have some base support to have a role on the panel. For the CPAC environment to be so toxic that a black presenter ends up defending as unabashed a racist as you’re going to get in the 21st century is horrifying.

  26. dingojack says

    $6 pw in 1835 is worth $3,160 pw in 2010 (in terms of economic status*). or $164,884.29 p.a. Not a bad little earner that, too bad the person actually doing the work wasn’t getting a cent.
    GOP: the party of the free market!
    :/ Dingo
    ——–
    * economic status is defined as: the relative ‘prestige value’ of an amount of income or wealth using the income index of the per-capita GDP. SOURCE.

  27. says

    dingojack “GOP: the party of the free market!”
    To be fair, being the South, at that time it would’ve been the Democrats.*
     
    * Because Obama!

  28. dingojack says

    MO –
    yes, but these are the kind of ”markets” the Geriatric Overbearing Parasites will support in a few election cycles*, once they expel those not quite pure enough!
    Jeff Davis’ zombie-corpse for Prez: GoP 2024‘ (ish).
    Dingo
    ——–
    * give ‘em a couple of years and this’ll be the GOP mainstream position, you betcha! [winks]

  29. Lithified Detritus says

    On the more hopeful side, the look on the face of the young woman in the front row at 2:01is priceless. Maybe some young people raised in the Republican party will figure out what a snakepit it is.

  30. w00dview says

    Clicked on the video and these were the top two youtube comments:

    I really hate it when black people bring up slavery like it’s their trump card that beats everything. It happened 150 years ago. Blacks were not the only people in history to be enslaved. If you hate living in white countries so much then move to Liberia and see how you like it.

    think he said, ‘forgive them for all the food and shelter he gave them all these years’. That was obviously outragious morally and he knows it but he said it rhetorically to counter the way history is being used NOW by people who were never slaves to gain advangtage and disempower the white race. It’s a propoaganda weapon used in the present time. He’s saying, ‘I don’t feel personnaly guilty, your propaganda doesn’t work on me.’

    These were the TOP RATED comments on this video. Post racist society my ass. This shit is depressing.

  31. sc_72717b0d8dc4053e632b6512091cef73 says

    Seriously…this redneck cracker who studied, “literature and stuff” is proud of his people? The greatest tragedy of the American Civil War is that intelligent, passionate, young people died in order to keep trash like this in the Union. I’m all for putting up a wall to keep the lower orders from corrupting our country…I just think that it should start at the Mason-Dixon line.

  32. Ichthyic says

    It’s obvious that this man would be quite happy to be forcibly taken from his home in chains, sold to people who speak a different language and forced to perform hard labor. He’d be delighted to have whatever family he might have managed to make taken away from him and sold. Just make sure you feed him, even if it’s the slops that your own family won’t eat, and shelter, even if it is only a broken down old shack with no floors and a leaky roof. Must sound like red-neck heaven to that yahoo!

    this isn’t the first time I’ve said this, but it does seem to be the case that a significant portion of Americans would prefer to live in a feudal society, so long as they still had their cars and TV.

  33. Ichthyic says

    These were the TOP RATED comments on this video. Post racist society my ass. This shit is depressing.

    I’m surprised one of those comments wasn’t from Anty Scalia.

  34. Ichthyic says

    I wonder if this is some kind of evil, perverted ritual?

    no, it is the simple result of empowering authoritarian personalities for multiple generations.

  35. Nick Gotts (formerly KG) says

    Finally saw the movie Lincoln. It made me daydream about what life would be like today of we didn’t have the ball-and-chain of the reality-denying, science-spurning, racist ex-confederate states tying us down. – KathyO

    The South winning the Civil War is a common them in alternative histories. Usually, it doesn’t turn out too well.

  36. Thorne says

    it does seem to be the case that a significant portion of Americans would prefer to live in a feudal society, so long as they still had their cars and TV.

    They seem to forget that the feudal system worked wonderfully for the lords and priests. Not so good for the serfs, though. Those pushing for a return to the past always seem to assume that they, of course, will be among the 1% living in the castle, and not the 99% grubbing in the fields.

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