Oklahoma GOP Tries to Overrule Federal Contraception Mandate

Republicans in Oklahoma, who apparently think the interstate commerce clause doesn’t exist, are trying to pass a bill that overrules the contraception mandate for insurance companies in that state. And you’re going to love the argument for this being made by the sponsor of the bill:

Jolley said the measure is the result of a request from a constituent, Dr. Dominic Pedulla, an Oklahoma City cardiologist who describes himself as a natural family planning medical consultant and women’s health researcher.

Pedulla says he is morally against contraception and abortion. He said he had to give up his small group health plan because the only plans available in the state required coverage for contraception and sterilization. He and his family were on the plan and had to find more expensive insurance elsewhere.

“Every small group plan forces you to choose those options,” Pedulla said.

Women are worse off with contraception because it suppresses and disables who they are, Pedulla said.

“Part of their identity is the potential to be a mother,” Pedulla said. “They are being asked to suppress and radically contradict part of their own identity, and if that wasn’t bad enough, they are being asked to poison their bodies.”

Studies show that women using contraceptives consider pregnancy more unwanted than wanted, he said.

Well yes, women using contraceptives obviously consider a pregnancy to be unwanted at that time. There’s a clue in the fact that they’re actively trying to prevent pregnancy. Why you think you should have the power to control whether they do so rather than them controlling it is beyond rational comprehension.

By the way, this bill passed out of committee by a 9-0 vote, with no debate at all. It will certainly pass the whole legislature.

Comments

  1. raven says

    1. Do they have women in Oklahoma?

    2. Do they vote?

    Doesn’t look like it from here.

    According to the US CDC, contraceptive use among US women in relevant cohorts is 99% It is 98% for Catholics.

    Pedulla says he is morally against contraception and abortion.

    So what and who cares. Pedulla can believe any stupid thing he wants. Lots of people are morally against driving cars, i.e the Amish. He has no legal, moral, or ethical right to impose his kooky religious views on anyone else.

    Women are worse off with contraception because it suppresses and disables who they are, Pedulla said.

    You could say the same thing about cardiology or any other type of modern medicine. They are all attempts to overcome nature’s way, short lives and ugly deaths.

    Cthulhu, I am so glad not to live in Oklahoma and/or need a cardiologist.

  2. says

    Look, Ed Brayton. If insurance companies are forced to cover contraception women will be forced to engage in coitus, and because of the mandatory contraception that they’re forced to take, they’ll be forced to not have the unwanted babies that should come, naturally, as a consequence of the sinful sex they don’t want to be having, and that’s against the Natural Identity of sluts, tramps and whores. That’s just common sense.

  3. otrame says

    Why did he leave his group plan? The contraception is AVAILABLE, not mandatory.

    Also, the request of 1 male constituent overrides the needs and/or wishes of all those other constituents? Silly me, of course it does. Those are just a bunch of slutty, unnatural women and their unmanly boyfriends/husbands.

    Okay, I’ve got that part sorted. But why did he leave his group plan? The contraception is AVAILABLE, not mandatory.

  4. Draken says

    So insurance not covering contraception and abortion is more expensive? There goes the “I don’t want to pay for these sluts” argument.

  5. says

    Women are worse off with contraception because it suppresses and disables who they are …

    i.e. baby machines controlled by their husbands.

  6. says

    Sweet donkey-raping Jesus, I wouldn’t ask that conservtaives join us in the 21st Century, but it would be nice if they could at least advance into the latter part of the 19th.

  7. Didaktylos says

    @#7 – Have a heart: being dragged from BC to AD was more than they could cope with …

  8. DaveL says

    Women are worse off with contraception because it suppresses and disables who they are,

    Because who they are is baby factories, right? Having your career or your education derailed by an unwanted pregnancy doesn’t count as suppressing or disabling who you are, apparently.

  9. says

    Natural moral law: Using a dime to tighten a screw is a grave sin. It alters the identity of the dime and enlists the screw in perversion.

  10. says

    Women are worse off with contraception because it suppresses and disables who they are, Pedulla said.

    “Part of their identity is the potential to be a mother,” Pedulla said. “They are being asked to suppress and radically contradict part of their own identity, and if that wasn’t bad enough, they are being asked to poison their bodies.”

    Jesus fucking Christ. What is it with conservatives and incredibly stupid, insulting arguments like this? I once read an argument in favour of abolishing the minimum wage because paying workers more than what the writer considers their work to be worth is an affront to their dignity.

  11. naturalcynic says

    Women are worse off with contraception because it suppresses and disables who they are

    Because they naturally will want to have the baby when they’re pregnant. And they won’t want to become pregnant because they’re on the pill. Cause and effect, right???

  12. Blondin says

    So, if my benefits package covers chiropractic, does that mean that I HAVE TO visit a chiropractor even though I think they’re quacks?

  13. tfkreference says

    Of course, blondin, and because sterilization is covered, everyone will have to have a vasectomy AND a tubal ligation.

  14. raven says

    Pedulla said. “They are being asked to suppress and radically contradict part of their own identity,

    Cthulhu, this a a stupid lie.

    Women aren’t being asked to do anything.

    They are choosing and demanding contraception and the human right to control their own destiny and lives.

    Pedulla’s cartoon version of women apparently have no minds, ideas, or plans of their own. It’s incredibly misogynistic and insulting.

  15. says

    raven “Pedulla’s cartoon version of women apparently have no minds, ideas, or plans of their own. It’s incredibly misogynistic and insulting.”
    Don’t worry your pretty little head about it, Toots.

  16. karmacat says

    I have had this dream of suggesting that only women get to decide on laws related to abortion and birth control just to see the reaction. Will this bring to the fore what these men really believe about women, that they can’t be trusted to make decisions about their own bodies

  17. Eristae says

    I wish these that ninnies would stop acting like women can’t say no to contraception if we are offered it. We’re not idiots. Just as condom dispensers in gas station bathrooms don’t come installed with quarter eating black holes, neither do health insurance plans come with birth control roofies. It is entirely possible for a woman to have a healthcare plan that offers contraception and not actually use the contraception. Amazingly enough, not only does she not have to use it, but no one is even going to make her take possession of it! Yes, that’s right, she doesn’t need to covertly stuff the birth control pill down the toilet; she can just choose not to get it from a pharmacy! Shocking, I know.

    This man personifies the whole anti-contraception mandate argument: he is willing to go out of his way to find a health insurance plan that didn’t offer contraceptives not because he himself would have had to use contraceptives (he would not, and neither would his wife), but because it is incredibly important to him that other people not be allowed to use contraceptives. He’s spending extra money in an attempt to make others act in accordance with his morals. If he wants do that, I’m not going to shed any tears over how he chooses to spend his money.

  18. iknklast says

    Raven @2: There are women in Oklahoma. Women like my sister and my mother, both of whom spent a lot of their life slut-shaming and taking it upon themselves to determine how other people should live. Women like Sally Kern. Women in Oklahoma think very similar to men in Oklahoma; it’s the church, not the state, that should set laws and rules governing everyone, and those who don’t like it should go back to Russia (even if they’ve never been there). And yes, these women vote. The rest of us? Some of us, like me, left Oklahoma. The rest are still hiding under the bed, afraid to come out in the light because that’s where the boogiemen really are. Under the bed, there are no monsters.

  19. says

    iknklast, I read your comment in the voice of a John Kerry speech during his presidential run. And now that I’ve mentioned that, everybody else will, too.*
     
    * Moo ha-ha!

  20. Nemo says

    @otrame #4:

    Why did he leave his group plan? The contraception is AVAILABLE, not mandatory.

    This was my thought as well. But then I figured (although the article doesn’t say this) that he must have employees on the same plan, and he was afraid that some of them might want contraception, and it was very important to him to deny that to them. Or, you know, at least make them pay for it out of their salaries, which he also pays. Until he can figure out a way to control how they spend that.

    Still, though — “had to”? Really?

  21. Randomfactor says

    The contraception is AVAILABLE, not mandatory.

    Free of charge, so it’s included in the premiums. So they’re FORCING him not to pay for something he doesn’t want.

    (Personally, I suspect that if I had a husband like that, I’d be VERY careful not to conceive any of its spawn. But it’s not my choice to make.)

  22. Ichthyic says

    By the way, this bill passed out of committee by a 9-0 vote

    that of course, is the really troubling part.

    the empowerment of stupid has reached crisis proportions worldwide, with the US far and away leading the charge.

    when will this endless cycle finally stop?

    how many tens of millions will die this time?

  23. Childermass says

    raven @ 2: 1. Do they have women in Oklahoma?

    Oddly enough, yes.

    2. Do they vote?

    Mostly for what preacher man says to.

    Heck folks, the other year half the Democrats and every single Republican in the House voted for a birther bill. Luckily some one somewhat sane in the Senate pigeonholed it.

    Meanwhile Oklahoma has more creationist bills in the last dozen years than any other state. Oklahomans might want to contact their elected officials listed at to express their displeasure with HB 1674:
    http://www.oklascience.org/

  24. Brain Hertz says

    I have had this dream of suggesting that only women get to decide on laws related to abortion and birth control just to see the reaction.

    How about proposing that only women get to decide on laws regulating vasectomies and prostate cancer? Oh, and, of course, laws controlling access to erectile dysfunction medication. That would be entertaining…

  25. Scr... Archivist says

    Tabby Lavalamp @ 12 asked:

    What is it with conservatives and incredibly stupid, insulting arguments like this?

    Not to defend conservatism (because after all, no one else is doing so anymore), but I’d argue that a lot of these people are well beyond conservatism. The Pedullas of the world are full-throated authoritarians (and maybe worse than that).

  26. frog says

    Has anyone tested the drinking water in Oklahoma lately? I’m thinking it must have massive quantities of lead and mercury. I don’t understand how someone who can manage to get a medical degree can be such a strong candidate for Stupidest Person on Earth.

    And then that 9-0 committee vote. This is obviously a widespread problem, thus my suspicion of the water.

    I’m fairly certain that a large percentage of Republican legislators aren’t, strictly speaking, human anymore.

  27. frog says

    Brain Hertz: Women are already sick of being responsible for men’s erections and the men’s inability to control them. Also, women apparently suck at it, since even when they wear burqas, sometimes they still entice men to rape them.

    It’s probably best if everyone takes responsibility for their own gender.

  28. dingojack says

    Frog – “Women are already sick of being responsible for men’s erections …. Also, women apparently suck at it… ”

    Perhaps not the most felicitous choice of words there. :)
    But otherwise QFT.

    Dingo

  29. abb3w says

    For those of curious bent, let me commend to your attention Public Catholic, the Patheos blog of a Catholic in the Oklahoma state legislature.

    Please be aware before wasting your time attempting to comment, she moderates her comments section with what I subjectively consider an amazingly heavy hand, even for Patheos. I try to limit my own to matters purely empirical, without any derrogatory terms and as little snark as I can muster, and something around a third to half of my comments end up deleted or in indefinite moderation purgatory (possibly because my facts are inconvenient or annoying).

    Still, glancing at it now and again seems illuminating into the conservative mindset. Despite this, she’s merely an Oklahoma Democrat; I can only wonder what the GOP is like there these days.

  30. cry4turtles says

    I wonder if this guy has any daughters? Even high and mighty Bush II couldn’t keep young Lauren on the dark side. Religion seems determined to continue to do what what it does best–leave a trail of bodies.

  31. Yellow Thursday says

    Draken @5

    So insurance not covering contraception and abortion is more expensive?

    Since this doesn’t appear to have been answered yet, in this thread:
    Yes, because insurance companies recognize that paying for pregnancy and birth is more expensive than paying for birth control.

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