Phillips Goes Full Godwin


When most people go Godwin, they try to at least leave themselves some sort of rhetorical out — “hey, I was just comparing some small thing, not calling my opponents Nazis.” Judson Phillips, leader of Tea Party Nation, jumps right into the deep end of the pool:

Unfortunately with the left having achieved its goal of political dominance, liberals are looking more and more like Nazis every day.

How could those “tolerant” liberals be so Nazi like?

Liberals love authoritarian governments. And with authoritarians and liberals, there is one thing in common. There can be no dissent.

Disagree with the liberal orthodoxy and liberals will destroy you. In fact, it is the goal of liberals to destroy anyone who disagrees with them.

At the national level, Barack Obama is trying to destroy the Republican Party. In Obama’s world, a one party state is a desirable goal. If he destroys the GOP, he gets his Stalinist wish.

It is not just Obama that wants to destroy all opposition. The examples of components of the great liberal axis of evil going after conservatives are replete…

Tonight Barack Obama will deliver an address to a joint session of Congress. The address is no longer the State of the Union address. Instead it will be a Hitlerian screed attacking Republicans, Conservatives, The Tea Party and anyone who dares to disagree with him.

Hmmm. It seems I’ve heard this before.

Comments

  1. Anthony K says

    and anyone who dares to disagree with him.

    Fucking anti-FtB assho—oh, wait.

    [Checks links.]

    Sorry, my bad. Ohitler is what the wingnuts call Obama. Ophitler is what the True Skeptics™ call Ophelia Benson.

    You can see my confusion—the reasoning and the language used by both groups is nearly identical.

  2. starskeptic says

    “At the national level, Barack Obama is trying to destroy the Republican Party.”
    The Republicans seem to be doing just fine in accomplishing that all on their own…

  3. says

    Anyone who’s been listening to libertarians for as long as I have will know where this moron stole all his rhetoric.

    If I said all Republican sockpuppets look the same, would that sound racist?

  4. Sastra says

    Okay, I’m gonna disagree with Ed here. I don’t think this is an example of going “full Godwin.” He can still touch the bottom of the pool because he says they are Nazi-like and make Hitlerian speeches. A full Godwin would not bother to deal with analogy. At all.

    Screw comparisons. I say that to qualify as full Godwin you have to actually bring in the actual Nazi party. And, if you’re going to go into very deep water indeed — the deepest — a resurrected Hitler.

    I don’t care if you resurrect him from the dead, clone him in Argentina, or decide that Hitler and his cohorts were all a bunch of shape-shifting alien lizard people who have drunk of the immortal waters of Kubla Khan’s Fountain of Youth. Pick what you want, the world is your oyster. But I’m not like Ed here, limited in imagination and too quick and ready with the laurels.

    Nope. When I finally call a “Full Godwin,” no fooling around. “Nazi like.” Tch.

  5. says

    This is projection vomit. Judson et al have made it quite plain they want to eliminate anyone outside of the Republican-conservative coalition as a viable force in American politics. In some cases I daresay they’d be happy with a bit less figurative notion of eliminate.

    Dare one compare to the actual behaviour of Obama and the Democratic party….

  6. hexidecima says

    Republicans don’t need anyone else’s help to destroy themselves. And I don’t think Obama could get excited enough to deliver a “Hitlerian Screed”.

  7. jnorris says

    Someone need to point out to Mr Phillips that the Tea Party and the Citizen United SuperPACs are responsible for the state of the GOP.

  8. sheila says

    Liberals love authoritarian governments. And with authoritarians and liberals, there is one thing in common. There can be no dissent.

    And if anyone says that liberals aren’t like that, they’ll go to hell!
    (After we’ve screamed abuse and organised a boycott of their business, of course)

  9. says

    I wonder how Phillips explains all those right wing folks who mused after the election that the Republican Party had outlived its usefulness and needed to be replaced with a “true” conservative party. Secret Democrats perhaps?

    Funny how he claims Democrats like authoritarian governments, while ignoring all those authoriarian governments Republican administrations supported. Their attitude was, as the line attributed to Jeanne Kilpatrick goes, “They may be bastards, but they’re our bastards.

  10. Synfandel says

    Liberals love authoritarian governments.

    “Liberals” love authoritarian governments?! He keeps using that word. I do not think that it means what he thinks it means.

  11. Pierce R. Butler says

    Oops – I didn’t have multiple FTB tabs open, but I still managed to post # 16 in the wrong thread.

    I repeat: Oops!

  12. Ben P says

    “Liberals” love authoritarian governments?! He keeps using that word. I do not think that it means what he thinks it means.

    You have to remember that every time someone like Judson Phillips hears any liberal politican/social activist say something about wanting to make people’s lives better, he assumes they really mean they want to amass power and oppress people for their own personal benefit. Because, you know. Communists are liberals, and Stalin was a communist….or something.

  13. Gvlgeologist, FCD says

    Is it just me, or do others feel like, whenever a conservative says something like, “Liberals claim to be tolerant”, that what they’re really thinking is something like:

    “Just about everyone feels that tolerance is generally a good thing, and since I and my fellow teabaggers/conservatives are intolerant bigoted assholes, and everyone knows it, my only chance is to claim that Liberals are just as intolerant and bigoted.”?

    This all (and the claims that Liberals like authoritarians) seems like like a big game of, “I’m rubber and you’re glue.”

  14. Ichthyic says

    it’s all the classic psychological defense mechanism of projection, Gvlgeo.

    It implies all the people engaging thusly have a lot of psychological pressure on them.

    now where could that pressure be coming from….

    well, as we all know, reality has a liberal bias.

    my conclusion:

    cognitive dissonance resulting from failure of their preconceptions to match with reality.

    er, not that I’m trying to be overly obvious or anything.

  15. lorn says

    Nonsense. Liberals have a long history of standing against extinction and genocide.

    Should numbers of Republicans fall too low we will, I’m sure, establish a captive breeding program in a remote location. Someplace well away from polite company and reality-based thought processes.

  16. says

    If a wingnut accuses a liberal of something, it’s either because he is guilty of it himself or it’s exactly what he’d do if given the chance.

    I call it Rove’s Law.

  17. dingojack says

    Ben P – “You have to remember that every time someone like Judson Phillips hears any liberal politican/social activist say something about wanting to make people’s lives better, he assumes they really mean they want to amass power and oppress people for their own personal benefit. Because, you know…..” that’s what he’d do, if his team had won the election. But they didn’t. Waaaah!!!

    FIFY, Ben. No need to thank me.

    Dingo

  18. Draken says

    There’s a simple lithmus test to see if your political opponent in power is a fascist. If you’ve published a screed like Phillips here and after 24 hours (a) it’s not been removed and (b) you’ve not been removed, he isn’t.

  19. unemployedphilosopher says

    There exists a movie (whose title I don’t recall) in which a secret agents baboon sidekick (yes, an actual baboon) drives a tiny tank around a Nazi camp in either Brazil or Argentina. Said camp contains the preserved remains of Hitler, and the Nazis are trying to bring him back.

    I’m pretty sure that didn’t work out, but hey, there was that bottle of bourbon right there and what?

  20. laurentweppe says

    Why is it always the same scene from Holy Grail that it’s use: the peasant shouting that he is repressed is pretty much right: Arthur goes in, proclaims that he is the king because he got a magic sword and when the peasant does not react in the obequious way he expected, the dude armed and in armor indulge in battery.

  21. robertfaber says

    So if I use the word fascist to describe some elements of the republican party (or even the democratic party), am I going Godwin? Because it seems to me the marriage of political and corporate power in America is nearly complete. Remember, there is a softer, gentler side to fascism, as was found in Pinochet or Franco.

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