Fischer: Akin Proves Republicans Not the Stupid Party

Bryan Fischer is upset with Bobby Jindal for saying that the Republicans should “stop being the stupid party” because they’re not. And Todd Akin proves that because what he said about illegitimate rape was “completely accurate.”

20 comments on this post.
  1. glodson:

    Wow, a defense of crappy rape apologetics and saying that this proves that the GOP isn’t dumb.

    Fischer really is a remarkable source. I can virtually assume the exact opposite of what he says to be true and often be right.

  2. machintelligence:

    Perhaps they should brand themselves the “Party of Pathetic Losers”.

  3. Sastra:

    Bryan Fischer just did something stupid. Todd Aiken was not criticized because he said or implied that sometimes women claim to have been raped when they have not been raped. The bulk of the criticism was directed at his stupid claim that a woman who is raped can’t get pregnant from that rape because “the body shuts down.” Fischer either didn’t know that or chooses to ignore it, depending on whether he is stupid or he just thinks his listeners are.

    One can correct errors, but there’s a saying that “you can’t fix stupid.”

  4. john sullivan:

    Fischer is the “oscar the Grouch?” of pnuitiotry I love him! Great hair and the most ideologically twisted ideas. Schadenfreude is part of why I like him. It scares me to think that right next door someone could be a Fisher Fan.

  5. naturalcynic:

    Wow. Does Fischer even pay attention to the issue? It’s like he hears every other word and mistakes his pounding blood pressure pulse wave for the key points of why Akin made his foolish statements.
    Or, maybe not. If the lies that he hears upset him as much as they appear to do, blood would be oozing out of his body as if he had the Ebola virus.

  6. MichaelE:

    It’s funny how he uses a related, but in the case of Akin’s remark a totally irrelevant, truth in an attempt to obfuscate his own stupidity.
    Yes, there are accusations of rape that are fabricated, this we know. And so what? It is completely beside the point, because that, from what I remember, was not at all what Todd Akin was talking about.

    This strikes me as a case where Fischer is, apparently, so stupid that he doesn’t realize that his argument is not even wrong, but completely unrelated to the subject matter of Akin’s remark.
    Either that, or he’s just dishonestly trying to revise history to his liking. In fact, come to think of it, it could actually be that he’s BOTH stupid and dishonest. (I’m leaning towards that)

    In any case, it certainly proves that, should we take Fischer as a representative of thinking in the GOP, the republican party really is the stupid party.

    But here I go, talking about what is obvious to us all.

  7. jamessweet:

    Heh. Jindal was specifically talking about Akin-esque moments when he made those comments, that’s the best part.

    Yes, there are accusations of rape that are fabricated, this we know. And so what? It is completely beside the point, because that, from what I remember, was not at all what Todd Akin was talking about.

    Yeah, the “apologies” about the Akin comment have been hilarious in their abject point-missing. It’s sort of like, “Black people are so lazy! Oh sorry, I didn’t mean to be offensive: African-Americans are so lazy!” Facepalm…

  8. redpanda:

    I was born, raised, and still inhabit Seventh-day Adventist-ville, and as we’re somewhat culturally insulated from the rest of the conservative protestant Right I’ve never heard of people like Bryan Fischer and David Barton before reading about them on FTB.

    Do people really take these clowns seriously or are you just picking the low-hanging fruit? I struggle to believe that people who say stuff like this are actually influential leaders on any sort of large scale.

  9. coragyps:

    I really do fear, Redpanda, that Barton, at least, is taken as seriously as a heart attack by quite a few folks here in Texas. And those folks include state legislators, members of the State Board of Education, and very likely the Governor.

  10. Bronze Dog:

    Do people really take these clowns seriously or are you just picking the low-hanging fruit? I struggle to believe that people who say stuff like this are actually influential leaders on any sort of large scale.

    From what I can tell, they’re pretty much the mainstream Republican party, now. They still get support from the party’s higher-ups.

  11. d.c.wilson:

    *Facepalm*

    That’s all I can manage as a reply to that stupidity. The fact that Fischer thinks Akin’s comments are accurate should disqualify him from any adult discussions.

  12. anubisprime:

    Sastra @ 3

    depending on whether he is stupid or he just thinks his listeners are.

    I think we can safely assume both!

  13. cottonnero:

    anubisprime #12: I’d argue that neither Fischer nor his followers are necessarily stupid. I suspect Fischer could, with a careful reading of what Akin and Jindal said, come to the accurate conclusion. He doesn’t appear to have done so, I think, because it’s not relevant to what he’s doing. He’s trying to whip up the anger and the resentment (and the paychecks) of his followers, who, while not necessarily stupid, are clearly ignorant, and have lived within the edifice of ignorance for so long that they now instinctively support and defend the edifice and its perpetuators like Fischer himself.

    (Obligatory: yes, some sizable portion of his followers are stupid. I’m not exactly disagreeing with you. But I think the Fischer/followers relationship works without stupidity. It runs on emotional highs and multigenerational ignorance.)

  14. jnorris:

    I am speechless.

  15. democommie:

    I aspire to being a world class musician, Nobel, Pulitzer, Booker, Oscar, Grammy and cetera award winner.

    Fuckwits like Akin aspire to having a measurable IQ so that they might, indeed, be stupid, instead of mentally insensate.

  16. Area Man:

    I’m glad we have Fischer around to show to future generations what conservatism in the late-20th/early-21st century was really all about. Of course, in 50 years Johna Goldberg III will write a book about how Fischer was really a liberal, so I guess the battle will never end.

  17. Michael Heath:

    redpanda writes:

    I was born, raised, and still inhabit Seventh-day Adventist-ville, and as we’re somewhat culturally insulated from the rest of the conservative protestant Right I’ve never heard of people like Bryan Fischer and David Barton before reading about them on FTB.

    Not hearing of certain influential conservative Christians doesn’t necessarily equate to their not influencing those people who’ve never heard of them. Instead these leaders’ ideas can and do ripple through the targeted demographics.

    Francis Schaffer had an enormous political impact on evangelicalism decades ago where few evangelicals could even name him back them, yet they knew those arguments. Currently N.T. Wright and Albert Mohler serve that role as well where both are valued by many theologically and politically conservative pastors who seek arguments to promote at the pulpit. The message often resonates, without necessarily causing congregants to remember or read further from those advocates who cause them react favorably.

  18. raven:

    Do people really take these clowns seriously or are you just picking the low-hanging fruit? I struggle to believe that people who say stuff like this are actually influential leaders on any sort of large scale.

    They do, sad as it is.

    Fischer isn’t any different from or saying anything different from Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Perry, Satanorum, Romney, Cain, Perkins, Robertson, Dobson or any other leader of the Theothuglican party, which they own.

    The Theothuglicans got 47% of the vote in the last election with a nonXian Reptilian hybrid head candidate.

    The fundie xians own the Dark Side of our society.

  19. jason the cripple:

    For the last couple of months, I’ve been hearing over and over again from the anti-choice crowd this “50 million babies have been killed” number. Has anyone looked into this? Where are they getting this number from?

    Just doing a little math, assuming abortion clinics are open 16 hours a day, they would have to have been 3.57 abortions in this country per minute since Roe v Wade in 1973.

  20. jaranath:

    redpanda @8:

    From the American Family Association’s website:

    “Today, AFA is one of the largest and most effective pro-family organizations in the country with over two million online supporters and approximately 180,000 paid subscribers to the AFA Journal, the ministry’s monthly magazine. In addition, AFA owns and operates nearly 200 radio stations across the country under the American Family Radio (AFR) banner. ”

    Fischer is on those 200 stations. The AFA is treated as a mainstream Christian organization in political circles, is regularly contacted as an advocacy group for media or consulted for opinions on issues. They are actively courted by politicians seeking endorsements; Mike Huckabee went on Fisher’s show during his presidential bid (the same guy who whines about how people drag his religion into the debate…one of the reasons I detest him). And unlike some such as McCain with John Hagee (another influential pastor), I don’t recall Huckabee having to recant associating himself with Fischer, despite the man’s radioactive lunacy.

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