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Jan 16 2013

GOP Congressman Supports Akin, Mourdock

Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) apparently hasn’t learned a thing, either substantively or politically, from the controversy ove the incredibly stupid things said by Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock in their Senate campaigns last year. He says both Akin and Mourdock were mostly right:

Rep. Phil Gingrey, an ob-gyn and chairman of the GOP Doctors Caucus, explained to the audience at the Cobb Chamber of Commerce breakfast Thursday in Smyrna, Ga., that Akin wasn’t far off on the science when he said rape victims rarely get pregnant because their bodies have “ways of shutting that whole thing down.”

“I’ve delivered lots of babies, and I know about these things. It is true,” Gingrey said, according to the Marietta Daily Journal. “We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, ‘Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don’t be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate.’ So he was partially right wasn’t he?”

“But the fact that a woman may have already ovulated 12 hours before she is raped, you’re not going to prevent a pregnancy there by a woman’s body shutting anything down because the horse has already left the barn, so to speak,” Gingrey continued. “And yet the media took that and tore it apart.”

Gingrey also defended Akin’s theory that women who claim to be rape victims are often lying about it.
“‘Look, in a legitimate rape situation’ — and what he meant by legitimate rape was just look, someone can say I was raped: a scared-to-death 15-year-old that becomes impregnated by her boyfriend and then has to tell her parents, that’s pretty tough and might on some occasion say, ‘Hey, I was raped.’ That’s what he meant when he said legitimate rape versus non-legitimate rape,” Gingrey said. “I don’t find anything so horrible about that.”

Gingrey also addressed the campaign season comments by GOP senate nominee Richard Mourdock in Indiana, who said that pregancy from rape “is something that God intended.”

“Mourdock basically said ‘Look, if there is conception in the aftermath of a rape, that’s still a child, and it’s a child of God, essentially,” Gingrey is quoted as saying Thursday.

Despite this clear agreement with what they said, he then put out a statement saying, “I do not defend, nor do I stand by, the remarks made by Rep. Akin and Mr. Mourdock.” Uh, yes you did. Quite plainly. And you’re wrong, as they were too.

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  1. 1
    John Hinkle

    The phrases “gift/child of God” and “rape pregnancy is what God intended” have to be among the most repugnant, and even more so when uttered by one of our “statesmen.” What a total lack of empathy or even just awareness of others.

  2. 2
    iknklast

    And another thing about the “what God wants” comment is that, if that is the case, the rapist was just doing God’s will. How then can he be guilty of a crime, at least to someone who believes that God’s law trumps man’s law?

  3. 3
    John Pieret

    … a scared-to-death 15-year-old that becomes impregnated by her boyfriend and then has to tell her parents, that’s pretty tough and might on some occasion say, ‘Hey, I was raped.’ That’s what he meant when he said legitimate rape versus non-legitimate rape,” Gingrey said. “I don’t find anything so horrible about that.

    Maybe Gingrey can find someone to lend him another neuron to rub against his own.

    Akin was saying that a woman who is raped won’t get pregnant and, therefore, he was also claiming that a woman who got pregnant must (or at least most likely) not have been raped (a claim Gingrey himself just denied). That was the awful part of Akin’s statement (the part about not getting pregnant from a rape was just laughably pig-ignorant).

  4. 4
    Doug Little

    Is this idiot up for re-election in 2014, I hope so.

  5. 5
    Modusoperandi

    Oh come on! This isn’t fair! By continually focusing on the ignorant, small-minded, malevolent majority of the Republican party you’re completely ignoring the moderate, non-offensive minority that doesn’t exist

  6. 6
    Gvlgeologist, FCD

    I always thought the first rule of holes was an individual rule. Maybe the Repubs should consider it in a group sense as well.

  7. 7
    tommykey

    It should be legal to punch any politician who says these things in the face.

  8. 8
    tbp1

    Ah yes, another GOP politician caught saying aloud what they really think.

  9. 9
    zekehoskin

    And everybody knows that ovulation never precedes intercourse. (Hey, it’s true for cats!)

  10. 10
    Bronze Dog

    (the part about not getting pregnant from a rape was just laughably pig-ignorant).

    I think it’s a specific type of pig ignorance, that of juvenile delinquents who rationalize their bad behavior and negligence by citing urban legends. One example I’ve heard is the assertion that for every brain cell killed by alcohol, three grow in to replace it, which probably came about to make them feel safer about binge drinking. There are plenty of urban legends floating out there about preventing pregnancy, like washing with Coca-Cola, taking certain OTC drugs that aren’t contraceptives, and so forth. I suspect those are used to rationalize that if the woman gets pregnant, he gets “plausible” deniability since she presumably went through the preventive measures with him, so it must be someone else who impregnated her. Slut shaming commences at that point. It’s probably not as effective among those who can afford paternity tests, but there are plenty of people who can’t.

    The notion that rape magically prevents pregnancy has been used to culturally excuse rape and even prevent rapists from being charged because it’s achieved urban legend status and believed by people who didn’t get proper sex education. When the Akin quote was fresh, I read someone’s story where police refused to press charges. Why? She got pregnant from it, and they cited the urban legend. This was followed by years of religiously motivated slut shaming where she was made to feel guilty for being a temptress.

  11. 11
    Ichthyic

    …adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate.’

    Citation sorely needed.

    Oddly, I recall that USING adrenaline actually stimulates ovulation, but then that was in fish.

  12. 12
    eric

    “We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, ‘Just relax. Drink a glass of wine…

    Among all the other idiocies, here’s a doctor who doesn’t understand that there might be a physiological difference between chronic low-intensity stress and acute, high-intensity stress. Its like saying excessive tanning can’t cause skin cancer because being shot by a laser beam doesn’t.

  13. 13
    Ellie

    @11

    Perhaps, since he appears to be willfully ignorant of human female physiology, he was mistaking the fact that the adrenal glands may overproduce male hormones like testosterone, and thereby inhibit ovulation? Or maybe he’s just talking out of his nether region.

  14. 14
    Shawn Smith

    And this moron is an ob-gyn?!?!?! What. The. Fuck. Is there some way to revoke this asshole’s license for rampant stupidity?

  15. 15
    d.c.wilson

    Every now and then, you just have to appreciate the irony of living in a country where guns can never be regulated but no vagina can ever be allowed to roam free.

  16. 16
    Modusoperandi

    d.c.wilson, learn something about history before you spout off. Back in olden times, when wild vaginas ran free, Man had to hide in caves, enfeared at being pounced upon by a pack of feral ladyparts, and men had to band together, lest one disguise itself as a bush, waiting for the moment to strike.
    Ladyparts are why castles have walls, why men ride horses, why men took to the sea.

  17. 17
    thebookofdave

    There should be a new rule: any politician making such obviously false and harmful statements in public should suffer immediate revocation of their license to practice medicine. As a time saving measure, states should preemptively begin with the GOP Doctors Caucus.

  18. 18
    anubisprime

    I assume that this paragon of wisdom will be standing soon for the Science and Technology council or on the House Intelligence Committee…and fraternizing with one of them thar ebil wimmins’ …at least I think she is a woman…definitely ebil’ but gender, well who knows about Michele Bachmann’s entomology?…thing is he is guaranteed for the nod on either or both cos he is you know wise and knows stuff!

  19. 19
    fifthdentist

    Doug LIttle: “Is this idiot up for re-election in 2014, I hope so.”
    Yes, he’s a representative.
    The scary thing is that these comments will not harm, and arguably are likely to improve, his chances of winning re-election in that election.

  20. 20
    fifthdentist

    d.c. wilson, I’m so stealing that last comment. With attribution.

  21. 21
    bradleybetts

    Yes, stress can cause a woman not to ovulate. But that only really applies if she hasn’t already ovulated, so unless she’s psychic and is stressed out about her future rape that hardly applies, does it? And the worst thing is he knows that because he straight up said so. So why bother saying it?! He’s trying so hard to defend statements that he knows full well were wrong. Why?! What a moron!

  22. 22
    bradleybetts

    @D.C. Wilson

    That was absolutely bloody hilarious… and then I realised how accurate it was :(

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