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Lively: Gay Wedding Songs Caused Noah’s Flood

Scott Lively continues to be the most ridiculous and extreme of the anti-gay bigots of the religious right, with the possible exception of Fred Phelps. Not only does he think gays were responsible for Adolf Hitler’s regime, he also claimed in an interview with Sandy Rios that Noah’s flood was caused by people writing wedding songs for gay marriages.

Lively: We need to remember that in the time leading up to the Flood what the rabbis teach about the last straw for God before He brought the Flood was when they started writing wedding songs to homosexual marriage and Jesus said that you’ll know the End Times because it will be like the days of Noah. There’s never been a time in the history of the world since before the Flood when homosexual marriage has been open and celebrated, and that’s another sign that I believe that we’re close to the end.

Rios: You know Scott you’re talking to thousands of the people across the country and some of them are probably pastors. What would you say to pastors out there who are facing, you know they’ve come up with these issues, these issues have come across their knowledge, they can’t escape it, whether it’s domestic partnerships or its benefits for homosexuals or whatever and it’s hurdling toward gay marriage in every state, what would you say to them by way of preparing themselves and how they should respond?

Lively: It’s time to adopt an apostolic mentality as Christians and to look to Revelation. How did they prevail? They prevailed by the blood of the lamb, the word of their testimony, and I think is most important, they did not love their lives unto death. We’re entering into a time in which standing for the truth of God is going to cost you more than just a few people walking out of your congregation and the temptation to compromise with the world, especially on this issue. I think this is the issue of the End Times, homosexuality. It’s present, if you do a careful investigation of all the scriptures dealing with this from the beginning and all the way to the end, God is painting a very clear picture that this represents the outer extent of rebellion against Him in a society and the last thing that happens before wrath comes.

I want some of what he’s smoking.

Comments

  1. MikeMa says

    Lively so needs this to be true to validate his life. He and others are so invested in their anti-gay bullshit that even the possibility of walking it back, even a little, is no longer possible. I don’t think it would even cross his mind to do so. He lives in a monochrome world. Everything he sees and thinks is through a single, hateful, bigoted filter. Lively lives such a sad, shallow life. And when he dies, he will be remembered as a bigot on the wrong side of history if not his church.

  2. Mr Ed says

    I guess the Bible is an early example of a Rorschach test. Read a paragraph or two and how an individual interprets is can tell you a lot.

  3. birgerjohansson says

    whheydt
    Exactly! It would be far more effective than the prayers to Yahweh that the Texas governor has offered.
    And the ancient Greeks apparently did not suffer from the kind of super-droughts that we see in australia, so it must be working.
    — — — — — — — — — —
    BTW I thought the reason for the flood (itself a story borrowed from Mesopotamia during the Babylonian captivity) is that the angels had sex with mortal women and created hybrids? God is a Klansman who disapproves of race-mixing!

  4. John Hinkle says

    Homosexuality will definitely cause the End Times, if by “End” he means butt. Think of all the End Sex people will be having during the End TImes.

  5. says

    Coming next season on American Idol a new judge, Yahweh. If he doesn’t like your homoerotic song, you’re fucked along with the rest of mankind.

    Also, David and Jonathan in 1 Samuel seems to be a case of homosexual songs included in the Bible.
    Oh noes!

  6. andrewjohnston says

    Hm. Well, I don’t know what Lively has been hearing from the Rabbis, but according to Genesis (specifically Gen. 6:11-13, where God gives Noah his orders), the last straw was rampant violence. See for yourself.

  7. says

    He is quite ignorant of his alleged holy book, isn’t he.

    The Bible is very clear why the the Flood supposedly happened: Genesis 6:1-7 says that “the sons of God” (Human priest-kings? Angels? Sons in the Mormon sense? Theories abound) found human women attractive and mated with them, giving rise to the Nephilim, a race of giant, heroic demi-gods. God wiped out the human race to eliminate this “taint.”

  8. anubisprime says

    the last straw for God before He brought the Flood was when they started writing wedding songs to homosexual marriage

    Them Rabbits errr!…did what now?

    God is painting a very clear picture that this (Homosexual wedding songs or Homosexuality Scott?) represents the outer extent of rebellion against Him in a society and the last thing that happens before wrath comes.

    So if Yahweh gets the ‘ump he is going to …what?…flood the gaff?…but the farmers might be a tad happier!…but it means presumably eradicating his own fans in his tantrum?…
    What a complete tosser of a dimwad and any one that buys that crap is an even bigger one…as for Lively…I think Scott believes as many as six different things before breakfast!
    What a ridiculous buffoon…

    ‘Gay wedding songs the last straw’….well how about that, actually does anyone know any teh ghey wedding songs…warning….Bieber and Streisand are not humane so do not go there!

  9. dingojack says

    whheydt – Yeah just what the Lockyer Valley needs – more fuckin’ gay wedding songs (as if straight ones aren’t bad enough. I mean James Blunt’s ‘You;re Beautiful (to Me). or ‘Close to You’ by Burt (the Muzak King) Bacharach are not flood-worthy.Really?)

    Dingo
    ——–

    “I love a sunburnt country
    A land of sweeping plains
    Of ragged mountain ranges
    Of droughts and flooding rains”

  10. davidhart says

    Modus @8: “Step, step, step, step, jump, step, step, step, step, jump?”

    In fairness, as a UK English speaker, I can excuse an American making this sort of spelling mistake. I can’t tell the difference between ‘hurdle’ and ‘hurtle’ in an American accent, and I’m still not sure whether they actually sound the same, or whether there’s a difference too subtle for someone who was not brought up speaking it to make out.

  11. Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says

    @davidhart

    They’re different as I pronounce them, but I’ll admit the difference is subtle. And my speech is somewhat more precise than many Americans’.

  12. jeroenmetselaar says

    Someone needs to read the bible he says he loves so much.

    According to the bible Noah’s flood was caused by God’s sons(…) screwing human females all over the place creating a powerful race of semi-gods. (Genesis 6:2 – 6:5)

  13. says

    This is why fundies can never adopt a live and let live philosophy. They truly believe that unless we’re burning gays at the stake, Gawd will smite the entire world again. Or at least, he’ll emit some random part of that had nothing to do with the people they find objectionable.

  14. anubisprime says

    dingojack @ 14

    James Blunt’s ‘You;re Beautiful (to Me)

    If that fucker Blunt is involved in this debacle in any way what so ever…I …I …well I would not be best pleased as it does confirm my worst impression of the twat, and one which I had hoped was just an innate bias reflecting good taste!

    Jesus said that you’ll know the End Times because it will be like the days of Noah.

    So all things being equally barking in the minds of the delusional…if that statement is in any way kosher…as soon as the xtians start with the sawing and hammering in their backyards and start with the collecting of strange and exotic fauna and fora, then we will all be aware that the game is afoot!
    Well maybe not with the exotic fauna and fora…but methinks the menfolk will want a few goats as a minimum insurance policy, in case you know, the new world will frown on getting laid with the women folk, Yahweh is irrational and arbitrary on these matters it seems, just cannot trust the pillock to act rational, mind you I had a boss like that once, easy to solve I got another job!

  15. cactusren says

    davidhart: it’s common in American English to pronounce a t in the middle of a word like a d. So, no, you’re not mishearing anything–they actually do sound the same in many American accents. Same thing goes for “latter” and “ladder”. And in some cases, such as “hunter”, the t is often not pronounced at all.

  16. bradleybetts says

    “We need to remember that in the time leading up to the Flood what the rabbis teach about the last straw for God before He brought the Flood was when they started writing wedding songs to homosexual marriage”

    LOL! Whut? Is this actually a thing or did he completely make that up? I genuinely can’t tell any more :-/

  17. baal says

    I should probably start trying to re-read the damn thing (bible). I know I’ve read Genesis (both) more than once and missed the whole race of giants and God’s rapey angels.

    I went straight through anger on the OP and out the other side. It’s pretty funny just how absurd Lively is. I’m very tempted to be lewd with another man in Lively’s presence. Maybe be could get like a flash mob but spaced out every 5 minutes so that Lively sees men being gay pretty much everywhere. It’d not have to be bent over backwards huge kisses every time but maybe handholding or just sitting with an arm over the shoulder on a park bench or two guys with a stroller given a toddler a walk. I think he’d explode.

    (2 guys humming show tunes in line behind him at the grocery store…)

  18. Sastra says

    Rios: “You know Scott you’re talking to thousands of the people across the country and some of them are probably pastors. What would you say to pastors out there who would like to know where in the Bible it says that God brought on the Flood when they started writing wedding songs to homosexual marriages? Chapter and verse, buddy.

    FIFY

  19. says

    Jesus said that you’ll know the End Times because it will be like the days of Noah.

    Actually, Jesus said the End Times would occur before the generation of his disciples would taste death. But who’s counting?

  20. frog says

    @reasonbe: But Moses supposes erroneously!

    @davidhart: They do sound similar in American accents, but that depends on the particular accent. There are class and regional markers evident in the distinction between “t” and “d” in the middle of a word. Very generally, the more distinction, the higher the presumed socioeconomic and educational status of the speaker. This is part of why so many Americans think all Brit accents, regardless of class, are fancy.

  21. caseloweraz says

    Lively: “We need to remember that in the time leading up to the Flood what the rabbis teach about the last straw for God before He brought the Flood was when they started writing wedding songs to homosexual marriage and Jesus said that you’ll know the End Times because it will be like the days of Noah.”

    This makes it sound like the rabbis were the ones writing the wedding songs. But I’m sure that’s not what Lively means. Imprecise language often goes with imprecise understanding.

    “There’s never been a time in the history of the world since before the Flood when homosexual marriage has been open and celebrated, and that’s another sign that I believe that we’re close to the end.

    And this is just flat-out wrong. Wikipedia:

    In the southern Chinese province of Fujian, through the Ming dynasty period, females would bind themselves in contracts to younger females in elaborate ceremonies.[70] Males also entered similar arrangements. This type of arrangement was also similar in ancient European history.[71]

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    A same-sex marriage between two men (Pedro Díaz and Muño Vandilaz) in the Galician municipality of Rairiz de Veiga in Spain occurred on 16 April 1061. They were married by a priest at a small chapel. The historic documents about the church wedding were found at Monastery of San Salvador de Celanova.[80]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage#History

    (I’ve edited the Wikipedia text slightly.)

  22. jnorris says

    According to the bible Noah’s flood was caused by God’s sons(…) screwing human females all over the place creating a powerful race of semi-gods. (Genesis 6:2 – 6:5)

    And just 2000 years later God Himself goes after a female child who gives birth to a powerful demi-god. Who God is forced to have killed.

  23. birgerjohansson says

    Speaking of the angel-human offspring, have any of you read the graphic novel series by Mike Carey about Lucifer? Very cool protagonist. And the Lilim (offspring of Lilith and angels) feature promi9nently thorough, including Lucifer’s spouse. A tough lady.

  24. Moggie says

    Gregory in Seattle:

    God wiped out the human race to eliminate this “taint.”

    God hates taint.

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