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Jan 08 2013

‘Ex-Gay’: Anal Sex Releases Demons

I’d never heard of Joseph Sciambra until I saw this video, which is absolutely hilarious. Sciambra claims to be an “ex-gay” porn star and he says that anal sex “release[s] into the world these rare demonic entities” and that the “devil could be given birth to anally.” Uh, okay.

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  1. 1
    richardelguru

    Aren’t those farts?

  2. 2
    MikeMa

    I wonder how he shits. It must scare him to death.

  3. 3
    Marcus Ranum

    That’s some sophistimacated theology, for sure!

  4. 4
    fifthdentist

    Of course Satan loves anal sex. That was shown in that movie documentary “South Park.”

  5. 5
    eric

    I’m not sure where he comes up with the “rare” estimate. If that’s how demons are released, I’d have to guess that hell has been empty of demons for quite some time now. At least since the 1970s…and maybe since the 0070′s.

  6. 6
    dingojack

    “Sciambra claims… that anal sex “release[s] into the world these rare demonic entities…”

    Who knew that Rick Santorum was both rare and demonic. Well, that explains a lot.

    ;) Dingo

  7. 7
    dingojack

    richardelguru – my farts, while demonic, are sadly not rare.
    Dingo

  8. 8
    No One

    This would explain why dogs sometimes bark at their own farts.

  9. 9
    imrryr

    Yeah. I think I read that in a slashfic somewhere.

  10. 10
    anubisprime

    It must be assumed the man has had an unfortunate cerebral episode is thus severely mentally ill.
    I hope he recovers, mind you his ensuing embarrassment at his behaviour while deranged might be a challenge to deal with.

    I expect the brain dead will love him though…they relate quite easily to such nonsense!

  11. 11
    reasonbe

    well, you see, the man is *conflicted*.

  12. 12
    Raging Bee

    This guy’s current fixation on all things anal is worse than that of any gay man I’ve ever met or heard of. What the Hell did this guy’s “therapy” do to him?

  13. 13
    raven

    Citation needed here.

    A note from a real demon would work, I guess.

  14. 14
    pacal

    Sometimes it is amazing how real life imitates parody. There is a comic I have that does in fact have demons born out of anal sex. But then it is intended to be a parody and rather silly. This guy is thinking it is for real.

  15. 15
    raven

    Anal sex – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Anal_sex

    “Studies indicate that about 25 percent of heterosexual couples have had anal sex at least once, and 10 percent regularly have anal penetration.” …

    Anal Sex More Popular Than Possibly Expected Among …
    www. huffingtonpost. com/…/anal-sex-heterosexual-couples-report_n…

    6 Jan 2012 – Almost Half Of Heterosexuals Under 45 Have Anal Sex Says CDC … /anal-sex-heterosexual-couples-report_n_1190440_130652458.html

    Just so you know, most anal sex demons are made by heterosexuals. Gay males make up maybe 4% of the population while an astounding 96% are heterosexual.

    Anal sex demons are no more dangerous than any other kind of demon. It you carry a cross or crucifix, a bible, or anything silver, they have no power over you. Cats scare demons.

    In fact, everything scares demons. If you don’t believe in them they have no power over you.

  16. 16
    matty1

    Get thee behind me Satan?

  17. 17
    raven

    My natal church didn’t believe in demons. I never heard them mentioned once.

    So every time I hear some fundie xian babbling on about demons, it is like someone babbling on about fairies, elves, brownies, vampires, or werewolves.

    Primitive superstitions that most educated people left behind a few centuries ago.

  18. 18
    d.c.wilson

    Talk about pulling something out of one’s ass.

  19. 19
    Michael Heath

    No one writes:

    This would explain why dogs sometimes bark at their own farts.

    I’m dying over here.

  20. 20
    Mr Ed

    I have a couple of theological questions. If this releases demons aren’t the better out than in? Is the some sort of christian/Scientology hybrid where you can skip years of auditing and release the thatans with a simple act?

  21. 21
    jonathangray

    Hmmm. Well there is certainly a long and inglorious association between sodomy and occultism/black magic, from the medieval sect known as the Buggers to the XI° ritual of the Ordo Templi Orientis. Anal sex, as the deposition of human seed in anal filth, is seen as figuratively anti-life and thus anti-God.

  22. 22
    raven

    Jonathangray is a wacko banned troll. A Catholic supremacist who wants to bring back the middle ages.

    Have fun if demented trolls amuse you but don’t expect anything coherent.

  23. 23
    tbp1

    Sigh. It’s not like I thought that the 21st Century would usher in an age of perfect rationality, but it’s really distressing to see how many people actually still believe in literal demons and demon possession.

  24. 24
    steve oberski

    I haven’t watched the porn but I’ve researched into what’s popular and what’s going on …

    I’ve heard about this type of “research” before. Usually conducted by Republican politicians espousing a “family values” platform from a stall in a public washroom.

  25. 25
    bbgunn

    Exor-shit-ims?

  26. 26
    Abby Normal

    That poor man. You can see, in all those pauses, his mind struggling to filter his thoughts into “acceptable” patterns. Every idea and feeling gets stopped, examined, and modified before he lets it out. He strikes me as a man at war with himself.

  27. 27
    dingojack

    So the Catholic Church is ‘demonic’, ‘anti-life’ and ‘anti god’, eh?
    Who knew?
    :) Dingo

  28. 28
    DaveL
    This would explain why dogs sometimes bark at their own farts.

    I’m dying over here.

    Might I suggest cracking a window?

    So the Catholic Church is ‘demonic’, ‘anti-life’ and ‘anti god’, eh?
    Who knew?

    Protestants!

  29. 29
    raven

    The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir.” ― Carl Sagan,

    Some people still live in demon haunted darkness. Of their own creation.

    I never worry about demons. I’m too busy fighting off the brownies, leprechauns, Zombies, Republicans, and internet trolls.

  30. 30
    pacal

    Jonathangray said:

    “Hmmm. Well there is certainly a long and inglorious association between sodomy and occultism/black magic, from the medieval sect known as the Buggers to the XI° ritual of the Ordo Templi Orientis. Anal sex, as the deposition of human seed in anal filth, is seen as figuratively anti-life and thus anti-God.”

    You do realize that it was the enemies of Cathar heresy who called them “Buggers”. The Cathars called themselves “True Christians”. It was the enemies of the Cathars including Catholic clergy men who dwelt long and hard on alleged Cathar sexual sins, which were of course their sexualized fantasies.

    On of the most fascinating aspects of the history of Christianity is the continual out pouring of sexual fantasies concerning so-called “heretics” by the “orthodox”. These people never tired of thinking about “heretics” engaging in all sorts of sexual activity. No doubt this produced among the “orthodox” many a boner.

    The “orthodox” obsession with anal sex, which it obviously gave and still gives them much pleasure to think about because they did and still do obsess over it. Is fascinating. Thank you Jonathangray for giving an outstanding example.

  31. 31
    jonathangray

    So the Catholic Church is ‘demonic’, ‘anti-life’ and ‘anti god’, eh?
    Who knew?

    A low blow, dingojack.

    But taking your question as seriously as it was doubtless intended, I would say no — because the Catholic Church teaches that anal sex (homo or hetero) is sinful — nay, it’s one of the Four Sins That Cry To Heaven For Vengeance (the others being murder, oppressing the poor and defrauding labourers of their just wages). If the Church approved of it, why not say so openly? That would be a surefire way of making friends and influencing people.

  32. 32
    jonathangray

    pacal @30

    Well we all have our biases, don’t we? If the Catholic Church were driven back into the catacombs (and I’m sure will be), how trustworthy would the subsequent historical accounts of its triumphant enemies be?

    But the demonstrable fact that modern occultists have an affinity with ritual sodomy leads me to give the Church the benefit of the doubt in respect of medieval occultists.

  33. 33
    baal

    From the video, he mentions that he did gay hardcore bdsm and needed anal reconstructive surgery. I, of course, have never seen any of that, ooh no, and have no idea how those two ideas are connected but suspect he was doing it wrong (or was done to or was too high (or related) to know the difference). Not everyone on that road has trouble in the nether regions.

    Also, the vid points up why you should take the time to screen your therapists for religiosity. You might wind up where this guy is at.

  34. 34
    slc1

    Re raven @ #22

    I take it that Mr. Gray is not the Un. of Texas running back.

    http://www.mvptexas.com/ncaa/2383-jonathan-gray-is-the-future-for-the-texas-longhorns.html

  35. 35
    billdaniels

    I read on a gay site that the porn he did was not commercial. A friend taped him having sex and then shared the video with some of his friends
    I couldn’t watch the video. Did he mention fisting. That can have disastrous effects.

  36. 36
    dingojack

    Speaking of which (and apros of nothing).
    Dingo

  37. 37
    kermit.

    jonathongray -

    The church clearly values children less than they do their own power, prestige, and dignity. Fuck ‘em and their child rapist facilitators.
    .
    As for modern occultists, yes, they do exist, and they are as superstitious and ignorant as you, but they generally make much nicer neighbors. There are no magical powers for them to acquire, and there is no sociopathic god to torture you eternally for having the wrong desires. There are no wrong desires, only wrong behavior. And adults loving each other is not wrong, no matter what their gender.
    .
    Morality is not how well you follow a list of arbitrary rules given to you by an imaginary magical king. Morality is how you treat other people.
    .
    The only demons are in your head.

  38. 38
    jonathangray

    baal:

    From the video, he mentions that he did gay hardcore bdsm and needed anal reconstructive surgery. I, of course, have never seen any of that, ooh no, and have no idea how those two ideas are connected but suspect he was doing it wrong (or was done to or was too high (or related) to know the difference). Not everyone on that road has trouble in the nether regions.

    Perhaps revered modern artist/transgressive gay icon Robert Mapplethorpe could shed some light on the matter…

    (Here’s an amusing self-portrait by the late photographer.)

  39. 39
    dingojack

    oops: ‘à propos de rien’
    Dingo

  40. 40
    Nick Gotts

    How is it that jonathangray has such an obsessive interest in, and extensive knowledge of, magical rites and anal sex? Is he perchance a Catholic priest?

  41. 41
    DaveL

    But the demonstrable fact that modern occultists have an affinity with ritual sodomy

    Oh really?

  42. 42
    dingojack

    Johnny split-seed – ‘by their fruits thou shall know them’…

    sur ce sujet

    Dingo

  43. 43
    jonathangray

    DaveL:

    Oh really?

    Prominent names that spring immediately to mind are: Crowley, Bataille, Bertiaux, Spare (possibly), Anger, Paisnel, Mapplethorpe, Jarman, Burroughs.

    (Speaking of Kenneth Anger, he can be seen standing on the right in this photograph conducting a guided tour of the notorious “Abbey of Thelema” in Sicily, where Crowley used to practise various depraved rituals with his followers until Mussolini sent the Great Beast and his crew packing. Anger’s 1969 underground psychedelic flick ‘Invocation of My Demon Brother’ would star Church of Satan founder Anton LaVey in the role of ‘Satan’ alongside Anger’s homosexual lover and subsequent Manson associate Robert K Beausoleil in the role of ‘Lucifer’. And who is the portly, bow tie-wearing gentleman standing on the left in the photograph? Why, none other than the esteemed Dr Alfred C Kinsey! Small world isn’t it?)

    dingojack:

    ‘by their fruits thou shall know them’…

    Homophobe.

    sur ce sujet

    Not exactly Tom Lehrer is he?

  44. 44
    jonathangray

    PS -

    sur ce sujet

    Tim Minchin: this is language one employs/When one is fucking cross about fuckers fucking boys

    Clearly Timbo’s failed to keep abreast of the latest liberal thinking on the subject. Is he perchance a bigot?

  45. 45
    d.c.wilson

    If the Church approved of it, why not say so openly?

    They do. Every time they move a child-raping priest from one parish to another so that he can rape again, rather than turning him over to the police, they proclaim it loud and clear.

  46. 46
    DaveL

    Prominent names that spring immediately to mind are: Crowley, Bataille, Bertiaux, Spare (possibly), Anger, Paisnel, Mapplethorpe, Jarman, Burroughs.

    First, you have failed to even allege any of the above incorporating anal sex into occult ritual, let alone provided any support for such a claim.

    Second, even if you had it wouldn’t be too hard for me to name a few Roman Catholic priests convicted for molesting little boys. It would hardly support the general assertion that “Roman Catholic priests have a penchant for buggering little boys.”

    Third, Crowley died in 1947, “Dr. Bataille” (actually Leo Taxil) died in 1907,Spare died in 1956, Paisnel went to prison in 1971 and died in 1994, Mapplethorpe died in 1989, Jarman in 1994, Burroughs in 1997. In fact, of your list of “modern occultists” of which you speak in the present tense, precisely two are still alive. Those two are, respectively, 77 and 85 years old at the moment, so my hat is off to them if they manage enough ritual sodomy between the two of them to merit such a broad statement about modern occultists in general.

  47. 47
    pacal

    Jonathan Gray says:

    “Well we all have our biases, don’t we? If the Catholic Church were driven back into the catacombs (and I’m sure will be), how trustworthy would the subsequent historical accounts of its triumphant enemies be?

    But the demonstrable fact that modern occultists have an affinity with ritual sodomy leads me to give the Church the benefit of the doubt in respect of medieval occultists.”

    I see you have a glimmering of understanding of the point. You do realize that it was the triumphant church that wrote the accounts of the “heresies” that lost. The Roman’s while persecuting Christians also accused them of numerous sexual sins including orgies and incest. Regarding the Cathars in particular they routinely accused Catholic priests and the hierarchy of sexual sins in contrast to the alleged puritan purity of their Perfects.

    The church of course got lots of sordid details from the victims it arrested, imprisoned and in many cases tortured and burned alive. So I have my doubts about the validity of what was said concerning “heretic” practice. In fact some church officials gloated triumphantly over the burning alive of heretics all too often. All that roasted flesh gave them much joy.

    You are aware that in Rennaissance Italy Monks were routinely associated with sodomy. The association of modern day occultists with ritual sodomy is another fantasy on your part. I know a fair number of Wiccans and Neo-Pagans and your comment is just silly.

    Oh and by the way one “cult” viciously persecuted by the Catholic Church that managed to survive until Protestant times is the Waldesian “heresy”, a proto-Protestant “heresy” that was accussed of orgies, incest, sodomy worshiping the devil and all the other usual crap that church officials routinely accused “heretics” of doing. The actual Waldesians were rather puritanical and accused the Church of being corrupt, full of sexual; sin and perversion.

    Oh and I would not in the slightest characterize either the Cathars or Waldesians as “occultists”.

  48. 48
    elpayaso

    don’t y’all know that anal sex is what produces LAWYERS?

  49. 49
    jonathangray

    DaveL:

    it wouldn’t be too hard for me to name a few Roman Catholic priests convicted for molesting little boys. It would hardly support the general assertion that “Roman Catholic priests have a penchant for buggering little boys.”

    Sure, but it’s not about personal penchants. As I pointed out to dingo, the Roman Catholic Church does not say buggering boys is good. It says it’s bad. If a priest buggers boys he could be any number of things: he might be an honest Catholic sinner who’s fallen into something he knows is sinful; he might be a misguided progressive who thinks buggering boys is fine and wishes the Church would change its teaching on the matter; he might be a cynical hypocrite who doesn’t give a shit about Catholic teaching; or he could be a psychopathic predator who has insinuated himself into the priesthood. Whatever he is, buggering boys remains alien to Catholic ethical teaching and Catholic ritual.

    My earlier statement (“modern occultists have an affinity with ritual sodomy”) was a sloppy and unjust generalisation and I retract it. Not all occultists are sodomites; and I don’t imagine all who are attribute esoteric significance to it. But some (not all) occult systems do incorporate sodomy into their rites. Is that a fair statement?

    (BTW, I was referring to Georges Bataille rather than the agent provocateur who may have been ‘Dr Bataille’ and I would class the period covering 1947-97 as modern.)

  50. 50
    ArtK

    This was very, very funny. Especially since in our family, we refer to those extremely noxious farts as “mouth of Hell.” Perhaps our family joke was the truth all along.

  51. 51
    Kamaka

    @ jonathangray

    buggering boys remains alien to Catholic ethical teaching and Catholic ritual.

    Yet permeates the Catholic hierarchy from the pope down to the lowliest friar.

  52. 52
    jonathangray

    Kamaka, what do you mean by “permeates”? That the vast majority of Catholic clergy buggers boys? A small majority? A large minority? What percentage of the clergy would you say?

    And by “from the pope down” do you mean the current pope buggers boys? How do you know?

  53. 53
    jonathangray

    pacal:

    You do realize that it was the triumphant church that wrote the accounts of the “heresies” that lost. The Roman’s while persecuting Christians also accused them of numerous sexual sins including orgies and incest. Regarding the Cathars in particular they routinely accused Catholic priests and the hierarchy of sexual sins in contrast to the alleged puritan purity of their Perfects.

    The church of course got lots of sordid details from the victims it arrested, imprisoned and in many cases tortured and burned alive. So I have my doubts about the validity of what was said concerning “heretic” practice.

    On the other hand, the mere fact of being on the winning side doesn’t necessarily mean one is in the wrong. The original German National Socialists accused the Allied powers of all manner of wickedness, while for their part the Allies arrested, imprisoned and in many cases tortured and burned alive citizens of National Socialist Germany. Are we automatically to assume then that the Nazis were the good guys? (About time this thread was Godwined.)

    The association of modern day occultists with ritual sodomy is another fantasy on your part. I know a fair number of Wiccans and Neo-Pagans and your comment is just silly.

    Not all neopagans are occultists though.

    Oh and I would not in the slightest characterize either the Cathars or Waldesians as “occultists”.

    Well the Cathars were gnostics and while gnosticism and occultism are certainly not synonymous, they arguably share the same spiritual root, just as Stalinism and Trotskyism are both species of communism.

  54. 54
    sceptinurse

    This reminded me of a surgical resident that referred to anal sex as “inappropriate”. Not sure why that memory came up. Mostly this guy reminded of the patients I had in the long term pysch facility I worked in. On the other hand some of the aides there could have given him a run for his money on his demon fixation.

  55. 55
    dingojack

    Johnny – what part of ‘being an accessory before, during and after the fact’ are you having particular difficulty?

    If you placed perpetrators in positions where they have access to victims, indeed in positions where crimes are very likely to occur, then cover up the crime (often by blaming the victim) whilst claiming, as an organisation, some kind of moral superiority over others and that such actions are intrinsically morally wrong*, what else could one call that organisation but immoral and hypocritical?

    Oh, and that whole one bad apple excuse (and let us not dignify it by calling it anything but what it is) is nonsense and you know it. This is a problem that has been going on for at least half a century with the full knowledge of the Catholic hierarchy, indeed the current pope instituted a cover up designed to minimise the damage to the Church (not compensate the victims as claimed).
    The rot, as the saying goes, starts at the head.

    Dingo
    ——–
    * even between consenting adults, let alone between a powerful adult priest and his young charges, one would (clearly wrongly) assume.

  56. 56
    jonathangray

    dingojack:

    If you placed perpetrators in positions where they have access to victims, indeed in positions where crimes are very likely to occur, then cover up the crime (often by blaming the victim) whilst claiming, as an organisation, some kind of moral superiority over others and that such actions are intrinsically morally wrong*, what else could one call that organisation but immoral and hypocritical?

    I don’t believe it has been shown beyond reasonable doubt that the pope knowingly placed kiddy fiddlers in positions where they could abuse children with impunity, or that he was personally implicated in covering up these crimes. But suppose you’re right and he did. Very well, we have a pope who has been guilty of grave moral dereliction, maybe even a criminal act. What then?

    You say the Church claims “as an organisation, some kind of moral superiority over others”. Yes, but that claim to moral authority has never rested on the personal virtues of the Church’s members, whether clerical or lay. The Church’s moral authority rests on the claim that it’s teachings on faith and morals have been divinely revealed. That claim is either true or false, regardless of how popes, bishops or priests act. If it’s true, it would remain true even if Benedict XVI turned out to be a serial killer who stored his victims’ severed heads under the tiles of St Peter’s Basilica and took them out from time to time to reminisce. As Jesus said of the Jewish authorities of His time: “The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses. All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not.”

    Obviously, scandalous or criminal acts by members of the Catholic hierarchy have damaged the Church’s claims to moral authority in the eyes of many people. No duh. That is a natural human emotional response, but it has no bearing on whether those claims are objectively true or not.

    You may be aware that paedophile rings have recently been alleged to have operated within two venerable hierarchical organisations with claims to a certain degree of moral authority — the British Broadcasting Corporation and the British political establishment (in conjunction with social services). If true, would it follow that both public service broadcasting and the democratic political system in the UK were evil institutions which should be abolished in favour of, say, a state-controlled or wholly commercial broadcasting system and a dictatorship respectively? I don’t think it would.

  57. 57
    dingojack

    You don’t get out much do you Johnny? The pope was instrumental (before he was elected) in the cover up of pedophiles in the Boston Diocese.
    The concept of being an accessory is pretty tricky for a bear of so little brains it seems, so here is a quick overview.
    If the pope, or anyone within the catholic church, is guilty of a crime (and there are more and more witnesses and victims coming forward) they should be tried in a court of law. If convicted they should be punished to the full extent of the law. That wasn’t too difficult now, was it?
    The moral authority of the church rests in it’s members, collectively with the pope as the person with the ultimate responsibility, morally and legally, for those under his control. And it’s quite clear that a large number of individuals were involved in crimes either before, during or after the fact, during his tenure in the top job and in senior positions with the organisation. A general cleaning of house is required to remove the corruption, top to bottom.

    ‘He did it too’. What are you six?
    That is totally irrelevant in respect to the culpability of the church in these horrendous crimes.

    Dingo

  58. 58
    jonathangray

    dingojack:

    The pope was instrumental (before he was elected) in the cover up of pedophiles in the Boston Diocese.

    Source?

    If the pope, or anyone within the catholic church, is guilty of a crime (and there are more and more witnesses and victims coming forward) they should be tried in a court of law. If convicted they should be punished to the full extent of the law. That wasn’t too difficult now, was it?

    Where did I ever say otherwise?

    The moral authority of the church rests in it’s members, collectively with the pope as the person with the ultimate responsibility, morally and legally, for those under his control.

    No, moral responsibility for particular acts committed by members of the Church rests with them and, corporately, with any superiors with responsibility for them — up to and including the pope. That is not at all the same thing as the moral authority claimed by the Church for its teaching on faith and morals. Do you honestly not understand the distinction?

    A general cleaning of house is required to remove the corruption, top to bottom.

    I couldn’t agree more.

    ‘He did it too’. What are you six?
    That is totally irrelevant in respect to the culpability of the church in these horrendous crimes.

    It is relevant to distinction I was making between individual/corporate moral responsibility and moral authority.

  59. 59
    birgerjohansson

    “Anal…[snip] Releases Demons”

    Stephen King wrote a book about it.
    Except they were alien parasites. Joseph Sciambra needs to get decontaminated, pronto.

  60. 60
    DaveL

    Sure, but it’s not about personal penchants.

    What? You’ve cited nothing but personal penchants, and that only by insinuation. That an artist has some works that combine homoerotic imagery with occult imagery is not the same thing as that same artist engaging in “ritual sodomy”, any more than George Lucas has a penchant for jetting across the galaxy in a starfighter. That a person might be both a homosexual and an occultist does not imply he engages in “ritual sodomy”, any more than straight married Catholics engage in “ritual intercourse”, all jokes about old marrieds aside.

    But some (not all) occult systems do incorporate sodomy into their rites. Is that a fair statement?

    “Occultism” encompassing such a broad spectrum of belief, I certainly couldn’t say that none do, but any particular system you could bring up would be the first I had ever heard of.

  61. 61
    dingojack

    Johnny – what part of accessory is it that you are having difficulty? I have asked before, but the concept seems to have eluded you.
    Dingo

  62. 62
    jonathangray

    DaveL:

    http://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib415.html

    dingo:

    I think my previous comment made it abundantly clear that a pope would be morally culpable if he were involved in a criminal act.

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