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Jan 07 2013

AFA Raises Money Using Paranoid Delusions

The American Family Association is selling its usual dystopic vision of a future America where Christians are terribly persecuted. ThinkProgress has the text of an email they recently sent out with some of the dumbest and most paranoid predictions you’ll ever see:

What will religion look like in the year 2060?

Conservative Christians will be treated as second class citizens, much like African Americans were prior to civil rights legislation in the 1960s.

Family as we know it will be drastically changed with the state taking charge of the children beginning at birth.
Marriage will include two, three, four or any number of participants. Marriage will not be important, with individuals moving in and out of a “family” group at will.

Churchbuildings will be little used, with many sold to secular buyers and the money received going to the government.
Churches will not be allowed to discuss any political issues, even if it affects the church directly.

Tax credit given to churches and non-profit organizations will cease.

Christian broadcasting will be declared illegal based on the separation of church and state. The airwaves belong to the government, therefore they cannot be used for any religious purpose.

We will have, or have had, a Muslim president.

Cities with a name from the Bible such as St. Petersburg, Bethlehem, etc. will be forced to change their name due to separation of church and state.

Groups connected to any religious affiliation will be forced out of health care. Health centers get tax money from the state, making it a violation of church and state.

Get involved! Sign THE STATEMENT.

Sincerely,
Donald E. Wildmon

What, no FEMA concentration camps?

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  1. 1
    Michael Heath

    Mr. Wildmon and his ilk appear to behave in a way they seem to hope such persecution comes as a self-fulfilling prophecy. However their commitment to authoritarianism is not shared by their opponents; so I remain confident the predominant population which seeks to suppress the liberties of others in the U.S. will continue to come from the tribe for which Wildmon speaks, along with the federal executive branch regardless of party affiliation though far more so from the GOP.

  2. 2
    MikeMa

    Many of the things Wildmon fears are illegal in the US although most would make me happy.

    His line:

    Conservative Christians will be treated as second class citizens, much like African Americans were prior to civil rights legislation in the 1960s.

    is a great source of irony he cannot see or appreciate.

  3. 3
    dingojack

    Dear Mr Mildmon –
    Can you point out the biblical verse that mentions St. Persburg? I can’t seem to find it anywhere.
    Thanks
    Dingo

  4. 4
    eric

    I think it really says something about their psychology that they include “have or had a muslim president” in their list of dystopian evils.

  5. 5
    dingojack

    Whoops – ‘St. Petersburg’. (Named in honour, of course, of Tsar Peter the Great).
    (Remarkably, the city itself wasn’t founded until 16 May 1703 and yet the writers of the bible had a vision of this unknown city in an unknown country, some 14 centuries in the future).
    Did they know how many would die building this city I wonder?

    Dingo

  6. 6
    TX_secular

    I was going to type a clever counterpoint but I am just speechless. Too many people in the US do not seem to understand the importance of a secular state for their religious freedom. ARGH!!! Does anyone have any suggestions for making this point? I never seem to have any luck with this or making sure people are distinguishing government speech from private speech.

  7. 7
    dingojack

    Has the AFA gone all pinko, commie on us? Are they aware that the city was called LENNINGRAD??
    Won’t ANYONE think of the CHILDREN!!!
    [Clutches pearls, falls toward awaiting fainting couch. -
    Crashes to floor (some thieving little toe-rag stole the fainting couch!)]

    Dingo

  8. 8
    Moggie

    What will be St Petersburg’s new name? I’ve always though “Leningrad” has a nice ring to it.

  9. 9
    Marcus Ranum

    What will be St Petersburg’s new name?

    Putinopolis?
    Putingrad?

  10. 10
    jnorris

    I could not help but notice that amid all this horrible Christian Persecution, the poor suffering Christians still have their guns.

  11. 11
    d.c.wilson

    Dingojack:

    In fairness, he was probably referring to St. Petersburg, Florida, which was named by one of its founders after his hometown of, St. Petersburg, Russia. So, you can clearly see the biblical reference.

    Um, maybe he should have used Corpus Christi, TX as his second example.

  12. 12
    Kaintukee Bob

    Roughly half of this sounds like a bad thing.

    The rest is neutral or good.

    The bad parts are ridiculous, and largely could never happen.

    It isn’t just fearmongering, it’s half-assed fearmongering.

  13. 13
    anubisprime

    And his point?

  14. 14
    Raging Bee

    Here’s a Salon article about how the entire “conservative” movement is nothing but a scam:

    http://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/the_conservative_movement_is_still_an_elaborate_moneymaking_venture/

  15. 15
    hunter

    AFA has always raised money using paranoid delusions.

  16. 16
    Didaktylos

    Even in the case Corpus Christi, TX, the religious significance is only indirect. It is named to commemorate that a party of Spanish Conquistadors reached the coast there in time to celebrate the Feast of Corpus Christi.

    Another bit of trivia: when the US Navy wanted to name one of the “Los Angeles” class nuclear submarines, the vessel was formally named “City of Corpus Christi” in order to make it clear that it was being named in hoinourof the city.

  17. 17
    Modusoperandi

    hunter “AFA has always raised money using paranoid delusions.”
    AND if you don’t SEND THEM MONEY, right NOW, they will RUN OUT of paranoid delusions. Barack HUSSEIN Obama is coming to TAKE THEM AWAY and will JUST GIVE them to LAZY people, FORCING the AFA to get real jobs! WAKE up, AMERICA!

  18. 18
    raven

    Here’s a Salon article about how the entire “conservative” movement is nothing but a scam:

    That is OK.

    Much of the money collected by fundie leaders is spent of themselves. Mansions, fast cars, jewelry, fine wines, fine drugs, RV’s, private jets, big boats, cute boys and girls, lawyers.

    Money spent on high living is money not spent trying to overthrow the US government.

    It can also be amazingly profitable. Glenn Beck, an idiot too weird for even Fox news, is now worth something like 60 million and going up rapidly. Pat Robertson is a billionaire.

  19. 19
    Bronze Dog

    Marriage will include two, three, four or any number of participants. Marriage will not be important, with individuals moving in and out of a “family” group at will.

    Isn’t that the status quo for conservative leaders?

  20. 20
    slc1

    Rather interesting that St. Petersburg, Russia, is not named after the disciple Peter but after its founder, Czar Peter the Great.

  21. 21
    mudpuddles

    It still amazes me just how astonishingly stupid some people are. Complete weirdos.

  22. 22
    dugglebogey

    Church buildings, especially sanctuaries, are little used already, aren’t they? They get used many one or two times a week, for an hour or two at most, and the majority of the people in them at those times can’t wait for it to be over so they can get out of them.

    Sounds like a tremendous waste of resources to me.

  23. 23
    cptdoom

    Conservative Christians will be treated as second class citizens, much like African Americans were prior to civil rights legislation in the 1960s.

    Because requiring “Christians” to treat gays and lesbians as equal human beings is exactly like refusing service to African Americans, amiright?

  24. 24
    eric

    @17 – excellent. A satirical meme worthy of going viral. The GOP does not cater to the 47% of Americans who believe they are entitled to government-provided delusions. They want to help the delusion-makers. The delusion entrepreneurs who go out and fabricate facts without government support.

  25. 25
    Kevin, 友好火猫 (Friendly Fire Cat)

    The one line of that which bothered me most was this:

    We will have, or have had, a Muslim president

    So what? I hope that by 2060 we’ll also have had an atheist president, an LGBT president, a woman president. We need to kill this cycle of only Christian males can be the PotUS.

  26. 26
    Draken

    @14: Makes sense. Conservatives get milked by political organisations for their life on earth, and by their churches for the afterlife. So when they die almost bankrupt, they can go straight to Jesus.

  27. 27
    didgen

    Apparently this war on religion will completely ignore the Muslim religion. Apparently it’s all about you, poor poor Christian.

  28. 28
    baal

    Marriage will include two, three, four or any number of participants. Marriage will not be important, with individuals moving in and out of a “family” group at will.

    @Bronze Dog. Neither cheating nor serial monogamy is the same as poly marriage.

    I don’t see what a problem would be with a family group organized in a plural model if the parties agree to that ahead of time. They kids don’t wind up confused and messed up anymore than they do with step families or gay parents. U.S. family law would need changes.

    The fund raising letter is, of course, looney.

  29. 29
    frog

    “Cities with a name from the Bible such as St. Petersburg, Bethlehem, etc. will be forced to change their name due to separation of church and state.”

    However, the towns of Blue Ball and Intercourse, both in goddist regions of Pennsylvania, will have their names elevated on Google Maps so they always show up in larger, boldface type.

  30. 30
    timgueguen

    Churchs probably will be empty of worshippers and used for other purposes, by 2060. \We already see that in much of Europe and we’re startiung tto see it over here too. Am example here in Saskatoon is the 3rd Avenue United Church. It’s currently up for sale because it doesn’t have enough congregants to pay for the upkeep on the large building.. The two current contenders to buy it are willing to let servinces continue in the building. (The Unired Church of Canada is the biggest Protestant denomination in Canada, and very liberal, which has cost it members over isssues like homosexuality.)

  31. 31
    iangould

    As usual, you have to ask: does he actually believe this shit or is he just conning the rubes?

  32. 32
    dan4

    I like how the second and third things mentioned (“Family…” and “Marriage…”) don’t actually have anything to do with Wildmon’s “What will religion look like…” topic.

  33. 33
    Nibi

    Marriage will include two, three, four or any number of participants.

    With many families struggling on two incomes, this might just make good economic sense.

  34. 34
    Nick Gotts
    We will have, or have had, a Muslim president

    So what? I hope that by 2060 we’ll also have had an atheist president, an LGBT president, a woman president. – Katherine Lorraine

    I thought according to the wingnuts, you already have a Muslim, atheist, gay President. AFAIK, Obama has not yet been rumoured to be a woman, but I feel that’s simply an oversight.

  35. 35
    pamsmigh

    Would it be a good idea to get on as many of these lists as possible in order to increase mailing costs, increase revs. to the post office, and decrease revenues/mailing stats?

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