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The Latest in Gay Reversion Therapy

We’ve seen some pretty funny versions of “pray away the gay” reversion therapy, but this one may take the cake. Pastor Raymond Bell of the Cowboy Church of Virginia says he can make gay people straight by having them ride and stroke horses. And no, I’m not making this up.

But Bell says the horses in his church, a cowboy ranch in the south, are part of teaching men to stop being gay and encourage them to be more masculine.

‘EAP can help any person who is living the homosexual lifestyle or involved in it in anyway,’ he told Gay Star News.

‘The first common misconception is that homosexuality is genetic, or hereditary, or as some say “born this way”.

‘Homosexuality is actually a type of addiction. It is not “curable” as a disease because it is a “choice driven” by the person.’

Bell said he uses EAP to identify how a person got ‘involved’ in homosexuality to begin with. For example, because of rape, abandonment, lacking a male role model, abuse, and having low self-esteem.

He said: ‘Homosexuality is a secondary effect from a single, or multiple, primary events in a person’s life.’

When asked if the therapy ever worked, or if it was even valid, the pastor said ‘it is not now, nor has it ever been, in question’.

Gives a whole new meaning to the term “barebacking.”

Comments

  1. steve oberski says

    it is not now, nor has it ever been, in question

    Pretty much sums up the fundi world view.

  2. cottonnero says

    Which direction does the causality arrow run? Does fundamentalism cause you to be unable to detect irony, or is it that fundamentalism is more appealing to people who already don’t have a sense of irony?

  3. says

    “Stroke your pony. Gently, but firmly. Just like that, yeah. Feels good, don’t it, all man. All man…. mmmmm…..”

    Why is it that anti-gay “therapy” always ends up sounding so homoerotic?

  4. ArtK says

    Many years ago, I worked at the Los Angeles Equestrian Center. I wonder what this guy would have said when we hosted the Gay Rodeo? Somehow I think that the riders in the rodeo have more contact with horses and do more “manly” cowboy things than any of this pastor’s “patients.”

    Perhaps he can send his patients to the Atlantic States Gay Rodeo Association since it’s right next door to him in DC.

  5. Peter the Mediocre says

    Is there any actual data to support his claims? Is Equine Assisted Psychotherapy accepted in psychology?
    I think horses are great, but I’d want to see actual evidence before believing that they could change a person’s sexual orientation.

  6. says

    Reminds me of an episode of the Simpsons where Homer suspected Bart was gay, and sought to cure him by making him shoot a deer because, as Moe described it, “that’s like shooting a beautiful man!”

    Because we all know, manliness is inherently opposite of gayness, and a Real Man(TM) is a killer.

  7. Sastra says

    Bell said he uses EAP to identify how a person got ‘involved’ in homosexuality to begin with. For example, because of rape, abandonment, lacking a male role model, abuse, and having low self-esteem.
    He said: ‘Homosexuality is a secondary effect from a single, or multiple, primary events in a person’s life.’

    Like a lot of bogus “therapies,” the causal criteria look like they’re very easy to retro-fit into a diagnosis. What human being — gay or straight — could look back on their entire life and see no possible “abuse” or “low self-esteem?”

    This reminds me a bit of that evangelist who wrote a book on the “cause” of atheism: atheists either had no father, or bad relationships with their father. Every case he looked at, he found it. And every Christian was the opposite. If their father died early, there was a father figure in their life; if they fought with their father, there were also times when they got along. Mitigating circumstances, in other words. You just had to look harder — and the clear pattern emerged.

  8. matty1 says

    When asked if the therapy ever worked, or if it was even valid, the pastor said ‘it is not now, nor has it ever been, in question’.

    I agree there is no question at all as to whether this works, it doesn’t.

  9. says

    An American church is promising gay men they will be cured of their homosexuality if they stroke horses.

    Aw, c’mon … Raymond Bell can’t be that stupid … can he?

  10. cry4turtles says

    Yeah but I’ll bet seeing my pony’s mottled tool would cure any man’s heterosexuality! That’s him in my avatar. Handsome!

  11. Nick Gotts (formerly KG) says

    Isn’t he worried that teh ghey will get transferred to the horses? I’m sure two stallions or two mares getting it on would make the Baby Jesus cry.

  12. markdowd says

    “…teaching men to stop being gay and encourage them to be more masculine.”

    Because all gay men are pretty boy flaming camp SPARKLES!!! None of them are buff, macho gym rats with some blood in their testosterone stream. It’s just not possible.

  13. says

    Former Georgia goobernatorial candidate Neal Horsely* fucked a mule, and he’s completely heterosexual, so maybe this guy is onto something.
    Wait, no, Neil Patrick Harris disproves his hypothesis.

    * From a classic interview with Alan Colmes:
    NH: “Absolutely. I was a fool. When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule.”

    AC: “I’m not so sure that that is so.”

    NH: “You didn’t grow up on a farm in Georgia, did you?”

    AC: “Are you suggesting that everybody who grows up on a farm in Georgia has a mule as a girlfriend?”

    NH: It has historically been the case. You people are so far removed from the reality… Welcome to domestic life on the farm…”

  14. kermit. says

    Cottonnero: Does fundamentalism cause you to be unable to detect irony[…]?

    Yes. The Fundmentalist mind is unable to see themselves as others see them; they seem incapable of really trying to. This means that they are incapable of perceiving inherent irony in a situation. This is largely why they have no sense of humor – how can one say something funny if they do not see themselves and their own behavior?

    It is related to their inability to do proper science except withing certain very proscribed safe subjects (i.e. physical chemistry, but not astronomy, psychology, or evo-devo).

    And of course they cannot therefore question their own religion.
    “What if there were no gods, how would the world be different?”
    “If I were born in Calcutta, would I still be Southern Baptist?”
    “Is it reasonable to think that all climatologists in the world are conspiring together? Is it reasonable to think that they become scientists in order to get rich?”
    “Is God really infallible – isn’t it my opinion that the bible is inerrant?”
    Etc.

    They do not do “What if” nor “How do others see this?”.

  15. says

    @democommie #15 I wonder how far they get into the animal husbandry.

    I suspect that Pastor Bell went to college and majored in animal husbandry, until he was caught at it. Then he went into the ministry.

  16. thascius says

    Well it couldn’t possibly be any less effective than other forms of reparative therapy. And probably more fun.

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