Help Stop the Assholes


Someone in the slymepit community has decided that it would be absolutely hilarious to start up fake Twitter accounts that look like they belong to Ophelia Benson. She is working to get a verified account with Twitter and have them shut down, but we all can help by going to these accounts and blocking them as spam.

https://twitter.com/OpheIiaBenson

https://twitter.com/OPHELlABENSON

https://twitter.com/FakeOphiBenson

Let’s also make sure everyone knows that this is not really Ophelia so that the impact of their fuckingassholery is muted as much as possible. These people are serious sociopaths and we need to take whatever steps are necessary to stop them from succeeding.

Comments

  1. reneehendricks says

    I loathe parody accounts on Twitter. They serve no purpose. I do, however, have a quick question: how do you *know* it’s a Slymepit member? Do you have evidence?

  2. says

    I’m using “slymepit member” as a shorthand for the whole anti-FTB, anti-Ophelia crew. It’s obviously one of them. I don’t really care which one; they’re all to blame.

  3. Anthony K says

    I do, however, have a quick question: how do you *know* it’s a Slymepit member? Do you have evidence?

    How does the Slymepit *know* I’m a virgin posting from my mom’s basement? Do they have evidence?

  4. says

    He didn’t say “member” – he said someone in the slymepit community. It’s someone in the slymepit community pretty much by definition.

    And the accounts are not just “parody” accounts, they use my real name and thus tweet under my name. They are impersonations.

    And it’s bullshit to say you “loathe” such things, Renee, when all you’re saying on Twitter is that Ed is a liar. You don’t give a flying fuck about “parody” accounts or anything else if they’re directed against the Chosen Enemy.

  5. reneehendricks says

    It is a lie. Clearly “Someone in the slymepit community” indicates someone who frequents/posts on the Slymepit forum. And, Ophelia, how is it bullshit that I don’t like parody accounts (which is what they are) simply because I state what Ed has put out is a lie?

    In any case, my question was answered. Thank you :)

  6. eucliwood says

    Oh, hm. Are the accounts really made to fool people into thinking they’re Ophelia, or do they have a sarcastic tone, like A++? I’ll check it out later.

    And thanks for clarifying that Slyme pit community doesn’t necessarily mean someone that’s a member of the forum, I guess.

  7. Anthony K says

    Are the accounts really made to fool people into thinking they’re Ophelia, or do they have a sarcastic tone, like A++?

    Is that how the Slymepit justifies itself? It’s all good in the name of sarcasm?

  8. eucliwood says

    Whoa there, by “these people” do they mean the ones impersonating Ophelia, or everyone in the community? Either way it’s not cool to abuse the words psychopath or sociopath like that, it doesn’t make you look good, and I’m tired of people doing it. It’s like, a real condition, that we can’t slap on as an insult to just about ANYTHING.

  9. eucliwood says

    Anthony, it’s not about justification, clearly a difference was made between impersonation vs parodying, someone on here said it’s NOT parodying because it’s made to look like her. I was just asking for clarification. As for parodying, no I don’t really take it seriously sorry…especially if people from here have parodied or mocked people from there. Is anyone from here responsible for the Vacula (that one dude…I’ve no idea if I approve of him or not, but that’s not the point) parodying? Has anyone here parodied or mocked anyone of “slymepit”?

  10. Anthony K says

    It’s like, a real condition, that we can’t slap on as an insult to just about ANYTHING.

    That’s true, Ed. Not everyone who’s malicious and integrity-impaired is a sociopath.

  11. eucliwood says

    Anthony, you look at the twitter’s actual content, don’t you? If I click on a twitter that says “Tom Cruise”, bt it’s clearly not him, I’m not going to think it’s him. Instead of replying with a bunch of sarcastic snark, you could yknow, just answer my question. The fact all you posted was the twitter account’s URL is enough to make me suspicious that that’s the only thing on there that resembles her.

  12. Anthony K says

    Anthony, it’s not about justification, clearly a difference was made between impersonation vs parodying, someone on here said it’s NOT parodying because it’s made to look like her.

    What part of https://twitter.com/OpheIiaBenson looks to you like parody, rather than impersonation?

    Has anyone here parodied or mocked anyone of “slymepit”?

    Do you have those goalposts on a flatbed or something? How’d you get them to move so fast?

    Mock? Yes, certainly.

    Impersonate? Not to my knowledge, but it’s not outside the real of possibility.

  13. says

    eucliwood – THE TWEETS LOOK AS IF THEY COME FROM ME. Nobody checks the profile on every tweet. If a tweet looks as if it comes from a friend, there’s no reason to check it. That’s the problem.

  14. Anthony K says

    bt it’s clearly not him

    CLEARLY you’ve never stopped to consider why companies sue other companies for brand infringement.

  15. eucliwood says

    Ed? Why are you calling me Ed? OH… short for my name. Yeah, there are actually shitloads of “malicious” (I’m guessing you’re not malicious if it’s just towards slymepit people, eh?) people who aren’t sociopaths. Looks like you need to do a little research on what a sociopath actually is.

    Starting with the difference between sociopath and psychopath, just for some fodder. Not implying you used the word psychopath here. (Socio – basically created from external environment… some professionals believe psychopaths are born and not made and that “sociopaths” do not really exist).. Psychopath – totally born, and from the looks of it, with the neurological differences between them and a normal person (low activity in the prefrontal, impaired fear ability, etc), I’d go along with the professionals who say they are born rather than made from abuse like movies like to paint.

    Now, let’s move on. Psychopaths also have no ability to empathize whatsoever. They do not know what “morals” are like either, nor what it’s like to have a sense of “right and wrong.” They see many who do as drawing arbitrary lines. and even make up theories about those who do have them (called “empaths”..not the paranormal kind). One theory is that we are simply indoctrinated with morals (the hell?) another theory is that we only have them to survive and protect ourselves.

    Plenty make a huge mockery of Empathy, something they don’t even understand.
    Some also like to lump those with victimless morals together with those who don’t have them, as a consequence (ex: Seeing those who think being gay is wrong, incest is wrong, etc, as just as nonsensical as people who think assault or theft is wrong).

    There’s also impaired fear. Fear is a very important emotion. I didn’t really realize this until I missed it myself once. You might be thinking “Hmm, even if you don’t feel fear, intellectually you’d understand you should be afraid and be motivated to avoid X consequence, right?” Wrong…you will not have the motivation, and you’ll also weigh the chances of the consequences happening incorrectly.

    Some of them also seem to have a deficit in detecting some facial expressions in people, as well as certain tones, sort of like autism, but psychopathy is NOT autism. The similarities end there.

  16. eucliwood says

    Anthony, that was only for you. I love how you hate me right off the bat. I didn’t move any goalposts. For someone that only thinks parodying or mocking while appearing to look like the person is malicious, then no, it wouldn’t matter if it was just mocking. For someone that thinks parodying, made to look like it’s the person (impersonation) or not, is malicious, then no, it shouldn’t matter to you.

    When appearing like the person doesn’t matter, pray tell, what’s the real difference between parodying and mocking? (AGAIN… this is only to those who think it doesn’t matter if you try to look like the person or not).

  17. eucliwood says

    For brand infringement… excuse me for interrupting, but I think it’s pretty dumb to try to put a claim on a company name. If you support that, fine, but I don’t. And it’s an Appeal to Law to say I should just because law backs it. Law also backs homophobia.

  18. eucliwood says

    Onto the point of the whole post… I report Facebook profiles that make it difficult for me to tell the difference between a real person and an impersonator. They are very annoying. Even if it’s obvious it’s not them. I will go as far as to report all of them and have a celebrity bitch on their page about how they were reported and had to be put back up. I will then apologize and explain. xD

    Does twitter have something like that? If so, then report all accounts besides yours with your name.

  19. Anthony K says

    Ed? Why are you calling me Ed? OH… short for my name.

    No, that comment was for Ed. I agree with you that tossing around the term ‘sociopath’ is wrong and harmful.

  20. says

    Am I supposed to know who the fuck Renee Hendricks is? Other than a stupid git accusing me of lying? Seriously, you people can just fuck off and die.

  21. Anthony K says

    When appearing like the person doesn’t matter, pray tell, what’s the real difference between parodying and mocking?

    Actually, the topic for discussion is impersonation.

  22. eucliwood says

    Eh, I just don’t promote using labels of any group that are inherently what they are by clinical definition regardless of what they do for something that’s not even close to resembling psychopathy. I go light on people calling some serious shit, like torture, psychopathy.

  23. eucliwood says

    Hmm, slymefuckers? As long as you do not claim the names they’ve got over there are malicious. I have a thing against hypocrisy. I remind people not to do it before they even do it, so don’t take this as an implication that I saw anyone here claiming name-making is malicious while doing it themselves. Hypocrisy really makes my blood boil.

  24. Anthony K says

    Hmm, slymefuckers? As long as you do not claim the names they’ve got over there are malicious. I have a thing against hypocrisy. I remind people not to do it before they even do it, so don’t take this as an implication that I saw anyone here claiming name-making is malicious while doing it themselves. Hypocrisy really makes my blood boil.

    Read more carefully, and you’ll notice that I did not claim that calling them Slymefuckers is not malicious.

    Of course, there are different levels of malice, and different levels of harm, and the topic of discussion, which you’ve again elided, is about impersonation.

    You know what makes my blood boil? Idiocy, especially when it’s masked with your kind of sniffling equivocation.

    So here’s what you can do: you can unpack all the assumptions inherent in ‘clearly’ in your analogy to Tom Cruise: “bt it’s clearly not him”

  25. eucliwood says

    Anthony, you totally avoided what I said. I was talking about people who ARE hypocritical about it. If you are someone complaining that names from the other side is malicious, then likely you are meaning to express that one shouldnt be malicious in that way, and therefore you’d be a hypocrite for doing the same.

    I purposely fucking emphasized the fact that I wasn’t calling anyone here a hypocrite or assuming anything about them, and you go and say “I never said it wasnt malicious” to friggin nitpick at everything I failed to say. You get the general idea, don’t you?

    And I know it’s about impersonation. Like I fucking SAID, I’m not the one that brought up the difference between parodying and impersonation in the first place. I was commenting on someone saying that it was impersonation, rather than mere parody. Why not pick at everyone here who sees a difference between it, not just me?

    There is no assumption in saying it’s clearly not him. How can it be an assumption? A hypothetical situation is what I make it. I’m only talking about sitations in which it’s clearly not Tom Cruise.

    Of course, unless you’re sitting here assuming that I’m saying it’s clearly not Ophelia, despite the fact that I practically stated I’m NOT, despite the fact that I stated I have NOT checked the accounts yet, hence my ASKING YOU to make sure.

    I emphasized these facts beforehand to prevent this from happening, but you go ahead and take it like that anyway. What the hell? Next time I should say “I never checked the twitter accounts, however I am implying that no one impersonated Ophelia with her twitter accounts” in order to get people who DONT assume that *I* assume it’s clearly not her.

  26. eucliwood says

    Really, it’s like you’re doing this on purpose, and it’s getting pretty offensive. And please, no “it’s the internet”, Just in case.

  27. mikelf says

    I’m using “slymepit member” as a shorthand for the whole anti-FTB, anti-Ophelia crew. It’s obviously one of them. I don’t really care which one; they’re all to blame.

    Are you really sure you want to invoke guilt by association

  28. eucliwood says

    What’s a mikelf? And, they’re as sure as they are when they posted it. I don’t do that “they’re all to blame” stuff. Abstinence from such!

  29. Anthony K says

    I was talking about people who ARE hypocritical about it. If you are someone complaining that names from the other side is malicious, then likely you are meaning to express that one shouldnt be malicious in that way, and therefore you’d be a hypocrite for doing the same.

    I purposely fucking emphasized the fact that I wasn’t calling anyone here a hypocrite or assuming anything about them, and you go and say “I never said it wasnt malicious” to friggin nitpick at everything I failed to say. You get the general idea, don’t you?

    Oh, it’s another hypothetical that may or may not bear any relation to what’s going on.

    Like the Tom Cruise example.

    Anthony, you look at the twitter’s actual content, don’t you? If I click on a twitter that says “Tom Cruise”, bt it’s clearly not him, I’m not going to think it’s him. Instead of replying with a bunch of sarcastic snark, you could yknow, just answer my question. The fact all you posted was the twitter account’s URL is enough to make me suspicious that that’s the only thing on there that resembles her.

    Unpack ‘resembles’.

    Why not pick at everyone here who sees a difference between it, not just me?

    I see a difference between impersonation and parody. I think that includes everyone here, potentially barring reneehendricks.

    But yes, I see that you did claim it was impersonation, in your initial comment. My apologies.

    There is no assumption in saying it’s clearly not him. How can it be an assumption? A hypothetical situation is what I make it. I’m only talking about sitations in which it’s clearly not Tom Cruise.

    Of course, unless you’re sitting here assuming that I’m saying it’s clearly not Ophelia, despite the fact that I practically stated I’m NOT, despite the fact that I stated I have NOT checked the accounts yet, hence my ASKING YOU to make sure.

    If we’re talking about Ophelia, and not Tom Cruise, then why are we talking about Tom Cruise?

    And yes, I’ve checked the twitter. It was like a mouse-click away.

    And please, no “it’s the internet”,

    Why do you do this? Why do you pre-empt people and then have a shitfit when they say they don’t do that?

  30. Gnumann+,who should not under any cirumstance be referred to as "gunman" says

    ugh! Fuckers!
    They made me log into my disused twitter-account just so I can block them.
    I detest Twitter.

  31. eucliwood says

    The Tom Cruise thing was an analogy. I use analogies when I think someone will better understand what I’m saying that way. Surely you can apply what was said about Tom Cruise to this situation.

    “Oh, it’s another hypothetical that may or may not bear any relation to what’s going on.”

    I WAS ASKING IF IT DOES HAVE ANY RELATION TO WHATS GOING ON! I don’t KNOW if parody vs impersonation has any relation to what’s going on til you answer me. (And you did, but with more than a simple answer, with basically criticizing me for even bringing the question up. Also note, again, that I wasnt the one who brought up parody)
    Instead of getting a simple ” yes, it was impersonation, I’ve read the twitter and it’s posting like it’s her” I get a bunch of shit back.

    and I did make it clear that it was just a reminder and that I wasn’t saying anyone was doing the hypocrisy. Name-marking itself, what I was commenting on, didn’t haev to do with the original topic either. Yet it’s here. So?

  32. eucliwood says

    A shitfit when they say they don’t do it? No, I don’t have a shitfit when they tell me they don’t. In fact, I love it when people tell me they don’t do what I watch out for. There’s a difference between simply telling me that you don’t do what I’m guarding against, and trying to tell me off as if I ever fucking said you do it just because I’m preparing for the possibility. I don’t know you, so I’m not making assumptions about you. Thought I made that clear.

  33. Abrassart Jean-Michel says

    Hello,

    Someone who creates a fake twitter account to parody someone else is a “serious sociopath”? Really? Is that criteria in the upcoming version of the DSM? If so, I must have missed it. Sure that lots of people will mistake the account named “FakeOphiBenson” as the real one… LOL

    I can’t take someone using those sort of hyperboly seriously, sorry.

    Skeptically yours,

  34. Anthony K says

    Surely you can apply what was said about Tom Cruise to this situation.

    Yes, which is why I asked you to unpack ‘clearly’, because that’s where the analogy loses any relationship to real life.

    ‘Clearly’ has to be unpacked.

    This could’ve been a simple conversation without all of the tellings-offs it has in it.

    Yes, and it could have been even simpler without the “I remind people not to do it before they even do its”

  35. Anthony K says

    Funny how this turns out to be all about someone named eucliwood. I thought it was a different subject altogether.

    Sorry. I’m at fault there too for the derail.

  36. eucliwood says

    Ophelia, I’m just replying to what people say to me, you can’t just blame me for that just because I’m the one they’re critcizing.

    @ anthony, sure it could’ve, but me doing that doesn’t harm anyone, and I get so mad when it HAPPENS when I don’t do it and I’m thinking “dammit, I should have written that disclaimer I was thinking about putting on the post” So yeah, when I dont do it, sometimes people repay me with a slap in the face by proving to me I should have.

    It saves energy to just do it up front, as long as people don’t take it as some sort of accusation even when I try to make it clear it isn’t.

    How does the analogy lose any relationship to real life just because Tom Cruise isn’t here? That’s why it’s analogy. I can’t say “kettles are black, like kettles are black” can I? I can’t ask “Is this kettle black, like kettles are black” or “is this cucumber green, like cucumbers are green?” can I? I was just asking whether or not it was clearly /not/ “Tom Cruise” (Ophelia, in this case) or not, and you answered that. Thanks for the answer, but I would have appreciated a simple answer.

    And yeah, the Fake one is clearly fake. Just saying.

  37. Anthony K says

    How does the analogy lose any relationship to real life just because Tom Cruise isn’t here?

    Learn to read, or shut up.

  38. eucliwood says

    I would like to add…well I already said how the impersonation can be solved and I think all there is to say was said on it. I’m too lazy to sign into twitter and do it myself. Cheers.

  39. eucliwood says

    Oh shit, by DO IT I meant report it, okay? I dont want a bunch of writing back about how I claimed I was going to impersonate her.

  40. eucliwood says

    Well what did you mean by “lose any relationship to real life” then? You didn’t clarify. And ouchh…”shut up.” My feelings, they’re hurt.

  41. Woo_Monster, Sniffer of Starfarts says

    eucliwood, do not abuse animals! I am not saying that you DO abuse animals, I just hate it when people do, so I thought I would admonish you on on the chance that you might.

    Dipshit.

  42. eucliwood says

    No, that’s completely irrelevant and you addressed ME personally. I didn’t address anyone personally, nor did I bring something up that has no risk of happening tied to the conversation or the blog/places involved. Nice try though.

    it’d be more like giving someone a pet and saying not to abuse it in case they do because people do that sometimes. ;)

  43. eucliwood says

    So, why’re you posting anonymously? Are you embarrassed of your strawmen, hyperbole, and “analogy” to what I’d supposedly done in one? I don’t care if you can’t grasp the possibility that I wasn’t accusing anyone of anything, but at least use analogies that are parallel to what I’d done.

  44. says

    What the fuck is wrong with people, seriously. I don’t like people, that means I will talk shit about them if the subject comes up… and that’s about it. I don’t understand the level of hatred and obsession here, I truly don’t. My mind, she is boggled.

  45. ehmm says

    On the subject of impersonation, would this be considered identity theft? Are there any legal options available?

  46. atheist says

    @ Anthony K – December 28, 2012 at 1:31 pm (UTC -5)

    It’s like, a real condition, that we can’t slap on as an insult to just about ANYTHING.

    That’s true, Ed. Not everyone who’s malicious and integrity-impaired is a sociopath.

    Oh my goodness, we’ve gone & offended the “Sociopath Community” now! I see a scathing Op-Ed in our future.

  47. atheist says

    @ SallyStrange: Elite Femi-Fascist Genius – December 28, 2012 at 3:38 pm (UTC -5)

    What the fuck is wrong with people, seriously. I don’t like people, that means I will talk shit about them if the subject comes up… and that’s about it. I don’t understand the level of hatred and obsession here, I truly don’t.

    It’s because, while you may be a misanthrope, you’re not a scumbag.

  48. Stacy says

    I can’t take someone using those sort of hyperboly, seriously, sorry

    That’s OK. I can’t take someone too stupid to use correct spelling and grammar seriously.

    And I see Renee Hendricks, the lying liar, is calling Ed a liar because he isn’t sure the jackass(es) impersonating Ophelia’s twitter account is a ‘pitter? If we find out who it is, and it turns out to be someone who has indeed commented there, I bet she won’t issue a retraction. Any takers?

  49. jose says

    Why bother engaging Hendricks and the other pitter guy? Obviously they are very happy someone is impersonating Benson on twitter and misleading people. It’s what they do, it’s what the whole pit exists for in the first place: to gloat over everything that might affect negatively anybody related to Rebecca Watson and PZ Myers.

  50. leni says

    Clearly “Someone in the slymepit community” indicates someone who frequents/posts on the Slymepit forum.

    Who else would bother?

    No one, that’s who.

    But your not-so-subtle attempt at gaslighting is duly noted. I’m shocked, shocked! that you’d stoop that low.

  51. says

    Gotta say, Ed, as much as I’ve appreciated your Swiss approach to these matters, I do enjoy seeing you tell people to shut the fuck up when they need to shut the fuck up. You have my full support in this matter.

  52. Illuminata, Genie in the Beer Bottle says

    Who else would bother?

    Renee is WAY to much of a tap-dancing coward to answer that question. Who else would bother? No one. Who else has a “reason” to do it? No one. Who else has the free time to obsess? No one.

    Renee knows this, but being honest for five fucking seconds would be death.

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