Wingnut on Wingnut Crime: Phelps vs Klingenschmitt


David Pakman had an interesting little debate on his show between Jonathan Phelps, part of the Phelps clan from the Westboro Baptist Church, and Gordon Klingenschmitt, the impossibly stupid and dishonest former Navy chaplain turned public joke. When you think Klingenschmitt, who thinks gays should undergo exorcisms to rid them of demons, is too liberal and squishy on the subject, you’re just plain whacked.

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  1. slc1 says

    Re d.e.wilson @ #3

    According to the self appointed expert on Christian theology, Prof. David Heddle, they are not the same entity. I guess that ole Yahweh was born again after the birth of Yeshua of Nazareth.

  2. says

    slc1,

    According to the self appointed expert on Christian theology, Prof. David Heddle, they are not the same entity.

    You do this to me and to others–I know for example you do it to Heath. You just make shit up.

    First of all I never claimed to be an expert on Christian Theology–I’m not. As far as the Christians I know, I have a rather average grasp. But that’s not the point–the point that you are spewing BS.

    Please link where I have ever written that the god of the NT is not the same as the god of the OT. It will be hard for you to do, because I have never made such a claim. That’s Marconianism, and has been considered a heresy (and virulent anti-semitism) since the second century.

  3. Chiroptera says

    heddle, #5:

    I suspect that he may be referring to an earlier conversation some time ago when you were arguing that Jews and Christians didn’t worship the same god. (I apologize if I’ve paraphrased that conversation inaccurately, or if I’ve confused you with someone else.)

  4. Gvlgeologist, FCD says

    Hmmm. Phelps is claiming that God says that gays should be killed? So aren’t they sinning by not following God’s commands?

  5. says

    Chiroptera

    I suspect that he may be referring to an earlier conversation some time ago when you were arguing that Jews and Christians didn’t worship the same god.

    I think so too–but that is an entirely different question. Along with the majority of Christians I view the god of the OT as the same triune god as the god of the NT.

  6. slc1 says

    Re Heddle @ #8

    Well, I’m certainly glad that the good professor cleared that up. However, the notion that Yahweh was a triune god before the birth of Yeshua of Nazareth seems rather odd. Where in the Hebrew scriptures is he described in such a matter?

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