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Nov 07 2012

Goodbye, American Republic

Well that’s it. Obama won and the American republic, if not all of western civilization, is now officially dead. That’s what the wingnuts have been saying repeatedly over the last few months, that the nation can’t survive another 4 years of Obama, that we will now become a socialist dystopia where Christians are persecuted and put in FEMA camps. Here’s Rick Joyner last week claiming that if Obama is reelected, “We are headed for the worst, most terrible form of tyranny there has ever been seen on this earth.”

Like every other ridiculous, paranoid pronouncement from the loonies over the last 70 years, this will turn out to be wrong — and yet it won’t even slow them down on continuing to make similar claims in the future.

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  1. 1
    Larry

    The only thing they have to look forward to now is the world’s complete and utter destruction next month. Unfortunately, it will because of the Incan gods, not their psychotic monster.

  2. 2
    beezlebubby

    Hooray for persecution of Christians. Bring on the lions, motherflowers.

  3. 3
    otrame

    I honestly think the meanest thing we, as atheists, can do to Christians is be nice to them. At least in person. And maybe occasionally mention about all those “end of the Republic” stories before the election, how silly and ignorant that stuff sounded, oh, not you, of course, I know you’ve got much better sense than that, but, you know, those sad, deluded people.

  4. 4
    eoraptor013

    Larry @1

    Hey, that reminds me! What happened to the 12/21/12 whackaloons? I was looking forward to lots of bad Sci-Fi movies, TV hysteria, and popcorn popping.

    What a disappointment.

    Eoraptor

  5. 5
    Marcus Ranum

    we will now become a socialist dystopia where Christians are persecuted and put in FEMA camps

    If it means that they will STFU a little bit, I am starting to think I may be in favor of it.

  6. 6
    lclane2

    This morning I decided I’d collect all the wingnut daily predictions of disasters that would happen if Obama were reelected. I downloaded several pages and quickly realized that this would be a major (impossible) project. In fact nuttiness is the rule at WND. Joseph Farah doesn’t recognize nuttiness and consequently makes no effort to hide it.

  7. 7
    outside

    When are the evangelicals going to admit that god sent Sandy so that Romney would lose?

  8. 8
    baal

    @#3 Otrame – I agree. I’ve had xtains be shocked (like needing to sit down shocked) when they found out I’m an atheist and much too ‘nice a person’ for that to be true.

    Now that Obama is re-elected; I’m kind of looking forward to see who my mandatory gay marriage partner will be. My wife is looking forward to being married to a tree. I hear Rick Santorum will be forced to gay marry his familie’s Rottweiler.

  9. 9
    bmiller

    Well…as Ed himself has made clear over the months (years), the trends toward tyrrany ARE worrisome, and Obama HAS exacerbated or accelerated many of these trends.

    The problem, of course, is that this is a bipartisan trend. These people want MORE OF THE SAME in many cases. They want more war, more police powers, more catering to the financial pirates and rentier class, more authoritarianism. All exacerbated by enforced fundamentalist religion, American Shariah.

    Heck, except on a few social issues, Obama has been an exemplary right wing Republican. Except for the fact that he is “un-heartlandishly hued”, which is the major sticking point for many of these nuts. And not a foamer when it comes to religion, of course.

    So, their whining and moaning about loss of freedome is risible.

  10. 10
    raven

    Obama won and the American republic, if not all of western civilization, is now officially dead.

    Well OK. We are now dead.

    So when is the funeral? Got to have a funeral if we are all dead.

    Although, these days many people have celebrations of life’s or memorial services. Which IMO are far better.

    I assume whatever end of life ritual we have, it will be televised and on the internet. Set a date and let’s get it done.

  11. 11
    davidct

    Obama holds positions that not that long ago would have been those of a Moderate Republican. Now we are to believe that this stand is left of Karl Marx. I guess that a knowledge of history back more than two weeks is too much to expect from these idiots.

  12. 12
    tacitus

    Hey, that reminds me! What happened to the 12/21/12 whackaloons?

    The defeat even had one of the FRC loons wondering if the Mayans were right…

    In reality, for the most part this wasn’t much more than a “hold the line” election for the Democrats. Very important, yes, but the odds are that in four years time we’ll still be looking at being one election away from a majority conservative SCOTUS and more nonsense economic plans involving sweeping tax cuts and a major weakening of the welfare system. Future Republicans candidates will learn from this defeat and simply won’t talk about abortion or gay marriage in the same way many already refuse to be drawn over evolution.

    Also, don’t expect the Republicans to do that badly with Latinos next time. Many are already wagering that Marco Rubio will be the Republican nominee in 2016 and even if he doesn’t win a majority of the Latino vote, it will be much closer to 50%.

    If Democrats had any sense, they should already been looking very closely at Florida and Texas with a view to 2020. Both states will be much more Hispanic than they are today, and if the Democrats win a majority in the state government in 2020 they will be able to undo two of the most egregiously gerrymandered state maps in the country. That can only happen if Latinos begin to vote in the numbers that white people do, so that’s where the hard work needs to be put in.

  13. 13
    tacitus

    These people want MORE OF THE SAME in many cases. They want more war, more police powers, more catering to the financial pirates and rentier class, more authoritarianism.

    I don’t agree with all that. Yes, Americans are more conservative and authoritarian than most of the rest of the Western world, which has led America to this point, but voting for the lesser of two evils is forced upon them by the current electoral system.

    Sure Democrats could have stayed home or voted for a third party in protest, but that would have allowed an even more entrenched authoritarian plutocrat into the White House and goodness knows what additional damage he could have done. Sometimes it’s more important to hold the line than seek ideological purity.

    The US didn’t get here overnight, and it’s not going to get out of it overnight either. But the first thing to do when you want to climb out of a hole is to stop digging and that’s what a majority of Americans voted for this time around, but only the barest of majorities. There is still a long, long way to go.

  14. 14
    marcus

    “…we will now become a socialist dystopia where Christians are persecuted and put in FEMA camps…”

    I don’t think we should do this. Instead I think that they should be released into the forests and hunted like wild animals. Much more fun. We could make a lot of money from the sale of hunting licenses to fund our satanic agenda. Just my opinion.

  15. 15
    Taz

    Obama won and the American republic, if not all of western civilization, is now officially dead.

    Then why the hell did I have to go to work today?

  16. 16
    savagemutt

    Obama won and the American republic, if not all of western civilization, is now officially dead.

    Does this mean we get the day off?

  17. 17
    Doug Little

    How did all those prayers work out for Mitt?

  18. 18
    bmiller

    tacitus:

    My point is that the authoritarian crazy right wants more of the same. Obama is not reactionary ENOUGH. As well as being sorta not white and a Democrat.

  19. 19
    Randomfactor

    Wait, we were supposed to be praying FOR the Mormon?

  20. 20
    jnorris

    Hey eoraptor013,
    About 12/21/12, there are only 41 more shopping days until the end of the world.

  21. 21
    Alverant

    So now we have a bunch of armed nutjobs scared that the world is going to end. I hope the president has increased his security until people settle down and realize the country is not going to collaspe.

  22. 22
    Reginald Selkirk

    Victoria Jackson: “America died.”

  23. 23
    doktorzoom

    And this man has a tax exemption why, now?

  24. 24
    Reptile Dysfunction

    “…ridiculous, paranoid pronouncement from the loonies
    over the last 70 years…”
    Hmm, that would include what all of us hippie college
    students said when it appeared that George Wallace
    was getting some traction in the primaries. & then
    when there were riots in Chicago in 1968, we were
    sure that the longhairs & radicals were all going to
    be rounded up & put in camps. As Lazarus Long said:
    “Recessions, depressions, wars, revolutions–these
    things pass.” (But of course, Lazarus was proved
    wrong later in the story.)

  25. 25
    thebookofdave

    “We are headed for the worst, most terrible form of tyranny there has ever been seen on this earth.”

    Exaggerating just a teeny bit? Hey, I can do that too!

    Rick Joyner has to be old enough to recall tyranny under Caligula, Nero, and Diocletian. They cancelled the National Prayer Breakfast too, and the worst that happened was a few odd Christians getting thrown to the lions. Does he really think it will turn out worse under Obama, or did centuries of senile dementia make him completely forget that things eventually sorted themselves out after the collapse of the Old Republic?

  26. 26
    Moggie

    “We are headed for the worst, most terrible form of tyranny there has ever been seen on this earth.”

    Ooh! Is it going to feature impalement, like the good old days in Wallachia? It’s hard to beat the sight of thousands of your opponents arrayed on stakes.

  27. 27
    pa747sp

    “We are headed for the worst, most terrible form of tyranny there has ever been seen on this earth.”
    And in one sentence he manages to completely dishonour the millions and millions of people who have been tortured, murdered or oppressed under a long, long list of truly brutal tyrants.

  28. 28
    dugglebogey

    Ah well.

    We had a good run.

  29. 29
    dingojack

    bmiller (#9) – “… more catering to the financial pirates and rentier class…”

    So, I wonder what nibbles and drinks the Dems are going to provide for them? After all, they’re in charge of the catering now. ;)

    Maggie (#26) – Nah, I predict beheading (scimitars are quite efficient for this purpose) – impaling is the christian way. :|

    Dingo

  30. 30
    Chiroptera

    Rick Joyner: “We are headed for the worst, most terrible form of tyranny there has ever been seen on this earth.”

    “Won’t someone please save our women from the scourge of easily accessible reproductive health care?”

  31. 31
    birgerjohansson

    “We are headed for the worst, most terrible form of tyranny there has ever been seen on this earth.”

    So Ronal Reagan aka The Great Leader will be appointed posthumous chief of state, like the one they have in North Korea? It actually makes sense, Kim Jong Il dabbled in making films.

    Mao let 40 million starve to death 1958-61. How are we going to top that? I mean, Americans tend to carry around quite a lot of fat reserves, it could take a whole decade to pull it off.

  32. 32
    fifthdentist

    I saw from tweets last night that Victoria Jackson lost her mind? No, mind isn’t the word for it. Um, maybe she lost the last thin, fraying sliver of sanity she had remaining. I guess that would be the best way to put it.

  33. 33
    dingojack

    birgerjohansson – 40 Million out of 653.46 million or 6.121% of the total. For America to come close they’d have to kill about 19.1 million* (say around 4,7745 million a year)
    Dingo
    —–
    * That would like depopulating New York, Los Angeles, Chigago, Houston, Philadelphia and 44% of Phoenix in four years!

  34. 34
    blf

    The only thing they have to look forward to now is the world’s complete and utter destruction next month. Unfortunately, it will because of the Incan gods, not their psychotic monster.

    I thought it was because the Mayan Long-Count Calendar goes Poooofff!!!1!!
    Which is really embarrassing for Great Psychotic Sky Faeries, theirs, Incan, and others… Innumerate as well as bad temporal and spacial aim.

  35. 35
    ambulocetacean

    Oh, poor, poor Victoria Jackson. On Twitter she’s begun peddling a satire-website story claiming that delayed military votes would have swung the election for Romney.

    She doesn’t realise that it’s satire, despite the fact that other headlines on the page say that Joseph Kony is leading in the presidential race and that Romney has promised to pay the entire defence budget out of his own pocket.

    http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/11/military-absentee-ballots-delivered-one-day-late-would-have-swung-election-for-romney/

  36. 36
    dingojack

    ambulocetacean – It seems, despite their strong visceral reaction to things they consider ‘dirty’, the RRW have poorly developed gag reflex*.
    Dingo
    —–
    * must be all that ‘ghey agenda’ that keeps getting rammed down their throats.

  37. 37
    ambulocetacean

    Hah! I would have seen what you did there, Dingo, even if you didn’t italicise it. ;) And I still would have given it a hearty boom-tish.

  38. 38
    jonathangray

    Runcible:

    “…ridiculous, paranoid pronouncement from the loonies
    over the last 70 years…”
    Hmm, that would include what all of us hippie college
    students said when it appeared that George Wallace
    was getting some traction in the primaries. & then
    when there were riots in Chicago in 1968, we were
    sure that the longhairs & radicals were all going to
    be rounded up & put in camps. As Lazarus Long said:
    “Recessions, depressions, wars, revolutions–these
    things pass.” (But of course, Lazarus was proved
    wrong later in the story.)

    And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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