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Nov 01 2012

Graham: Election Decides God’s Judgment

I really wish the fundies would make up God’s mind. Are we already under God’s judgment or will be be under it if Obama is reelected? Has he already “lifted his hand of protection” from us or is he preparing to do so? Franklin Graham takes the latter option, saying that this election will decide whether God gets really mad at us or not. An he starts by contradicting himself:

The Bible says that government has been ordained by God Himself.

“For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God … for [the one who is in authority] is God’s servant for your good” (Rom. 13:1, 4, ESV).

In just a few days, we in the United States have the privilege of electing the people who will serve in office for the next several years.

So does God “institute” the government and decide our leaders or do we? And if Obama wins, does that mean it’s God’s will that he win? If so, then isn’t he just setting us up?

Since we believe this is one of the most important elections in our lifetime, my father and I have taken a strong stand in the past few months to encourage voters to support candidates on the national, state, and local levels who embrace biblical values…

This is a crucial hour for our nation. Above all, this is a time for deep, intercessory prayer on behalf of our great country, which is in grave danger unless we repent of our sins and turn back to the God of our fathers. The Bible says, “First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way” (1 Tim. 2:1–2).

When America’s leaders actively promote and legislate immorality, restrict the religious freedoms that our country was founded on, and are openly hostile to men and women of faith, then I believe we are ripe for God’s judgment.

So God is going to decide the outcome of the election and the outcome of the election is going to determine whether he throws a fit at us or not? That seems rational.

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  1. 1
    Reginald Selkirk

    my father and I have taken a strong stand in the past few months to encourage voters to support candidates on the national, state, and local levels who embrace biblical values…

    Oh his God! He wants to bring back slavery.

  2. 2
    Stevarious, Public Health Problem

    I thought we were already experiencing God’s judgement in the Big Gay Apple and the Jersey Gay Shore? North Gay Carolina? It’s only the gay parts that got smashed up, right? No?

    Oh. He must be stupid then.

  3. 3
    eric

    Holy cow that 1 Tim is a quote mine. IMO the text is very clearly requesting that Christians pray for their leaders, i.e. in a positive way. Not against them or in the negative way modern evangelists seem to use the term ‘intercessory prayer.’ You might reasonably see the quote as supporting a prayer for Obama to ‘see the light’ on some issue and change his mind. But if you think 1 Tim 1-2 is telling you to pray for him to lose or be struck down or punished, you are (IMO) really reading the text wrong. Like, not even junior high reading comprehension wrong.

  4. 4
    schism

    That seems rational.

    It’s as rational as the Bible portrays God to be.

  5. 5
    baal

    “So God is going to decide the outcome of the election and the outcome of the election is going to determine whether he throws a fit at us or not? That seems rational.”

    Well, it is rational if you feel the truth ‘in you heart’.

    My son had a massive haul from last night’s satan wor trick or treating. I take this as a sign of the Great Pumpkin’s favor for my supernatural acts of service and that the various gods and lesser divinities will smite Romnom zombie with a loss in Ohio.

  6. 6
    Jasper of Maine

    It’s kind of interesting, actually.

    If Obama wins, that means God really wanted him in office.

    If Romney wins, that means God really wanted, specifically, a Mormon in office.

  7. 7
    Jasper of Maine

    I mean, out of all the republicans, the Mormon is the one God chose? Maybe the Mormons are the right answer after all?

  8. 8
    Tony! The Queer Shoop

    Ed:

    So God is going to decide the outcome of the election and the outcome of the election is going to determine whether he throws a fit at us or not? That seems rational.

    You forget, this is the divine entity that blamed humanity for being sinful, which is something he knew would happen when he created everything. Rational doesn’t seem to have been in his playbook from the beginning.

  9. 9
    Tony! The Queer Shoop

    Jasper:
    But Obama won the last election. Doesn’t that mean that God already wanted him in office?
    If Obama wins reelection (Please, please!) then does that mean God was satisfied with his first term?

  10. 10
    Tony! The Queer Shoop

    Jasper:

    Maybe the Mormons are the right answer after all?

    I wonder if we’ll see a rash of conversions to Mormonism if Romney wins. Perhaps that could be a good thing the atheist movement IF Mormonism is easier to refute than mainline Christianity.

  11. 11
    briandavis

    Those bible verses aren’t talking about elected officials. They are telling us that the Illuminati/UN/NWO who really rule us are picked by God.

  12. 12
    jnorris

    An Obama victory means God did not talk to Billy or Franklin Graham. They must have been talking to demons. They must quit all ministry and repent very loudly and publicly. Later the elders at the Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints (the Mormons) (not a cult) will decide their fate.

  13. 13
    thisisaturingtest

    So God is going to decide the outcome of the election and the outcome of the election is going to determine whether he throws a fit at us or not? That seems rational.

    And apparently god’s decision is going to be based on the depth of “intercessory prayer,” so it’s really all right back to us again anyway; kind of like voting, but not.

  14. 14
    barryd

    Jasper of Maine (I feel safe and welcome at FTB) says:

    “It’s kind of interesting, actually.

    If Obama wins, that means God really wanted him in office.”

    Only for those GOPgelicals who are honest (which is to say, none).

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    eric

    So God is going to decide the outcome of the election and the outcome of the election is going to determine whether he throws a fit at us or not? That seems rational.

    Isn’t that the exact plot of Exodus? Harden Pharoah’s heart against the Jews, then punish him for not letting the Jews go. Rinse and repeat.

  16. 16
    tsig

    As often as that hand of protection comes and goes I’d say that god is jacking off.

  17. 17
    Doug Little

    Fuck I hate these morons with a passion.

  18. 18
    BrianX

    Eric:

    As little as that passage made sense to begin with (I can only imagine what the Torah redactor(s) thought of it — it had to have been one of those “I can’t make sense of it, but God said it belonged there” moments), keep in mind: the Tree of Knowledge incident was entrapment. God had no business punishing people who didn’t know it was wring to be disobedient.

  19. 19
    dan4

    @16: Hilarious (rolls eyes). Which one are you, Beavis or Butthead?

  20. 20
    democommie

    Franklin Graham = living proof that there is no GOD or, if there is one, that he’s a psychotic motherfucker.

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