Wingnut on Wingnut Crime: Billy Graham Edition


I and many others noted recently that the Billy Graham Evangelical Association scrubbed their website of material that called Mormonism a cult immediately after Graham endorsed Mitt Romney for president. It seems other noticed it too, including some of his fellow fundies who are very upset about that:

The Rev. Samuel Wynn admired Billy Graham and his evangelistic association for decades, joining its spiritual crusades and urging fellow Christians to do the same. But no more.

“I will never again support anything by the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association,” said Wynn, the superintendent of a United Methodist Church district in Fayetteville, N.C…

Howell Scott, senior pastor Bethel Baptist Church in Alamogordo, N.M., said Graham’s declassification of Mormonism as a cult “will have disastrous unintended consequences.”

“The most immediate consequence will be the acceptance and approval of Mormonism as a legitimate Christian ‘denomination’ or faith group,” Scott wrote on his blog last week. “The blurring will only increase if Mitt Romney is elected president.”…

Bart Barber, pastor of First Baptist Church in Farmersville, Texas, said was prepared to vote for Romney — until last week.

“The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association probably cost Mitt Romney my November ballot when it stopped calling Mormonism a cult explicitly because of this election,” Barber wrote on his blog.

“For the sake of my congregation, when Billy Graham is muddying the waters of the gospel, I have an obligation to provide clarity,” Barber continued.

Politics has always trumped religion for Graham, and his son, who runs the organization, is even worse.

Comments

  1. blf says

    So what percentage is lying?
    And what will the non-liars (assuming there are some) do: Vote for Obama? Spoil the ballet? Write-in? A minor party candidate? Not vote — at all or just not for President?

  2. slc1 says

    Franklin Graham is a nutcase who, it is my information, once tried to convince then Israeli Prime Minister Arial Sharon to raze the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem and build the Third Temple. That would surely start a religious war that would end in the death of hundreds of millions.

  3. Larry says

    As has been said before, we’re all atheists at heart. Its just that some of us go one god further.

  4. Trebuchet says

    @slc1: That’s exactly what the fundies want because they think it will bring about the “end times”. That’s the main reason for their fondness for Israel.

  5. andrewjohnston says

    In what sense is Billy Graham a “wingnut”? I don’t understand the animus. Is it because of his association with Nixon? Because other than that, he largely avoided politics during the 60+ years he was active. He promoted social justice, supported the Civil Rights Movement (though, by his own admission, not nearly enough), refused to affiliate himself with Robertson or Falwell and shunned the anti-gay rhetoric of his peers.

    Don’t tie him up with his crazy political hack of a son. Graham is on death’s door – anything that comes from “Billy Graham” is clearly Franklin’s work.

  6. Rodney Nelson says

    andrewjohnston #7

    Playing the No True Graham Scotsman card.

    Incidentally, Graham is a lowland Scots name.

  7. a miasma of incandescent plasma says

    Bart Barber, pastor of First Baptist Church in Farmersville, Texas, said was prepared to vote for Romney — until last week.

    “The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association probably cost Mitt Romney my November ballot when it stopped calling Mormonism a cult explicitly because of this election,”

    Wait… wait…
    So Bart was going to vote for someone in a cult, but now that one website changed he’s not going to vote for the cult member??

  8. says

    I think Billy Graham is somewhat more personable than the likes of Falwell or Robertson, but he’s more of a “Christian Right” figure than he lets on. In 1960 he stoked anti-Catholicism against JFK, but was clever enough to keep in the background while urging on Norman Vincent Peale; it’s also clear that he has held anti-Jewish views which he expressed only privately.

    A point I made is that the deleted list of “cults” also included Unitarianism. I don’t believe for a second that a Unitarian running for Presidential office, almost certainly as a Democrat, would have prompted the Billy Graham Association to remove the reference in order to avoid a “politicized” theological debate.

  9. raven says

    wikipedia:

    Dr. Graham has suffered from Parkinson’s disease for about 15 years, has had hydrocephalus, pneumonia, broken hips, prostate cancer and bronchitis..

    Billy Graham has had Parkinson’s for 15 years. Late stage Parkinson’s commonly results in severe cognitive decline.

    It’s likely he is a meat puppet by now, being operated by his son Franklin. Which makes Franklin a familiar type, the xian ghoul.

    Anything for money. It’s just business.

  10. raven says

    wikipedia:

    Graham is a registered member of the Democratic Party.[35] In 1960 he was opposed to the candidacy of John F. Kennedy because he was Catholic, and worked “behind the scenes” to encourage influential Protestant ministers to speak out against him.[36] Graham met with a conference of Protestant ministers in Montreux, Switzerland during the 1960 campaign, to discuss their mobilizing congregations to defeat Kennedy. He did not comment publicly on the election.[37]

    Billy Graham was horrified that a Catholic, Kennedy could be elected president and mobilized Protestant ministers to work against him.

    These days supposedly he doesn’t have a problem with Mormons.

    It’s an example of a common phenomena. Evolution. Religions evolve and quite rapidly. And religious evolution has no preferred direction. They can go backward just as well as forward.

    For a Southern Baptist, Graham was far from the worst. IIRC, Falwell hated him. Anyone Falwell hated probably has something worthwhile about him.

  11. whheydt says

    Re: Richard Batholemew @ #10…

    According to Wikipedia, there have been 4 Unitarian Presidents…both Adams’, Fillmore and Taft.

    There have also been a bunch of “unaffiliated Christian”…which I guess would make their actual beliefs anybodies guess.

  12. ttch says

    Two posts by Fred Clark (both dated 23 Oct) on Billy Graham:

    Franklin Graham’s fire-sale at Montreat

    Franklin Graham and the latter-day politicization of the BGEA

    As per raven @11, it seems possible that Graham’s son Franklin is the real source of this endorsement. Quote from the first post above:

    When a reporter from The New York Times asked Franklin Graham if his father would ever speak publicly to confirm his support for these recent statements released in his name, Franklin replied “That ain’t gonna happen.”

  13. Scott Simmons says

    Well, blf (comment #1), I don’t know about the other two. But Rev. Barber is here in Texas, where we have four candidates on the ballot:

    Mitt Romney (Mormon cultist)
    Barack Obama (secret Muslim)
    Gary Johnson (non-practicing Lutheran, probably an atheist)
    Jill Stein (Jewish)

    So, he’ll probably have to write in Jesus Christ.

  14. Ichthyic says

    Wait… wait…
    So Bart was going to vote for someone in a cult, but now that one website changed he’s not going to vote for the cult member??

    *whew* I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to notice that.

    ;)

  15. says

    “Wait… wait…
    So Bart was going to vote for someone in a cult, but now that one website changed he’s not going to vote for the cult member??”

    He’s concerned that some of his “flock” may actually READ some news instead of having it rectally inserted via Mr. Murdoch’s FuckTheNew’sCorpse. In KKKristianist circles, hypocrisy–like extra-marital sex–only happens if you’re caught in the act.

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