Anti-Equality Advocates in MD Preach Death to Gays


The Maryland Marriage Alliance, the primary organization fighting for an ordinance that would prohibit marriage equality in that state, held a townhall meeting last week and one of their leaders actually cited Bible verses saying that gay people are worthy of death. This is cued up to the start of it:

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  1. raven says

    and one of their leaders actually cited Bible verses saying that gay people are worthy of death.

    So are disobedient children, nonvirgin brides, false prophets, apostates, heretics, atheists, adulterers, and sabbath breakers.

    It’s estimated that the death penalty offenses would result in 297 million Americans being killed.

    That would however, solve our fundie problem. All their leaders would be dead under piles of rocks as false prophets.

  2. Captain Mike says

    So are disobedient children, nonvirgin brides, false prophets, apostates, heretics, atheists, adulterers, and sabbath breakers.

    Not to mention all those favour the Oxford comma! Die, heretic!

  3. busterggi says

    Of course that’s OT stuff that Jesus supposedly fullfilled so no one, except Jews, has to follow those rules anymore – or so I’ve been told about the rules that today’s Christians don’t like.

  4. Nemo says

    Minor point, but what’s on the ballot in Maryland is actually a measure to make gay marriage legal, so a vote FOR question 6 is a vote for gay marriage. (To be even more exact, the legislature already passed marriage equality, but it wasn’t scheduled to take effect until January; meanwhile, enough petition signatures were gathered to put the law up to a referendum. A vote FOR question 6 is a vote to affirm the law that was already passed.)

  5. grendelsfather says

    A vote FOR question 6 is a vote to affirm the law that was already passed

    I am confused (not an unusual state, these days.) Why does a law already passed need affirmation? Is it insecure and looking for approval? If more people are in favor, the more gays can marry? Or what?

  6. Nemo says

    Why does a law already passed need affirmation? Is it insecure and looking for approval? If more people are in favor, the more gays can marry? Or what?

    If it’s defeated in the referendum, it’s dead. Apparently, any law passed by the Maryland legislature can be challenged in this way.

  7. hunter says

    @grendelsfather:

    That’s what’s going on in Washington State as well, and it’s the same thing that happened in Maine a couple of years ago — laws passed by the legislature and signed by the governor were challenged by referendum, which they can do there if they get enough signatures on a petition. Happily, Illinois was smart enough not to do that — referendums here are advisory only, and not binding.

  8. liokae says

    I gotta wonder, if he truly believes they’re worthy of death… why isn’t he out there killing them? Society is letting them go free! Just walking around there, being all GAY and stuff!

  9. Michael Heath says

    His, “watch this” comment preceding the death penalty admonition is an effective verbal que when amongst fellow believers. The que signals the audience to shut down the part of their brain which they use to reason and instead slavishly submit to whatever edict is subsequently promoted as divine revelation. The reaction which follows the edict will often be an emotional one, some combination of physical and verbal.

    You can see the guy to his right physically prepare himself to submit. I remember that tactic well from being raised to be fundie. However it didn’t seem to work so swell with this crowd. I only heard one or two expressions of “Praise God!” and “Amen!” and no, “Hallelujahs!”. He needed to blind them a bit more than one mere, “watch this”, given the whopper he laid on them. “Kill them and their allies” probably had many these Christian bigots in the audience quietly thinking, “Holy Shit!”.

  10. machintelligence says

    Worse yet, he is also advocating death for those who condone gay behavior. This second order punishment can lead to the acceptance or condemnation of almost any behavior in a society.

    Once enough individuals are prepared to punish any behavior, even the most absurd, and to punish those who do not punish, then everyone is best off conforming to the norm. Moralistic strategies are a potential mechanism for stabilizing a wide range of behaviors.

    Richardson and Boyd 1992.

  11. baal says

    They used to read bible verses in support of slavery too. It’s somehow scarier to see actual folks do it than to just read about a historical event.

  12. jnorris says

    Two things, first, if this preacher actually believed that gays should be killed and he has faith that Jesus will protect him, why isn’t he actually killing gays? Could it be that some gays have guns? Or is his faith much less than the mustard seed?

    Second, will the Maryland Marriage Alliance don white sheets and lynch gays now? And if so and they want to come to my door, then please do so after dinner. I don’t want to deal with the police reports about defending myself to their deaths before supper.

  13. slc1 says

    Re Nemo @ #5

    I am confused here. It is my information that the referendum Maryland is for the purpose of overturning the decision of the legislature; hence a no vote supports same sex marriage and a yes vote opposes it. It is my information that it is the vote in Washington State which is to approve same sex marriage, where a yes vote supports it and a no vote opposes it.

  14. pixiedust says

    Maryland resident here.

    The language on our ballot is exceedingly obtuse. The marriage equality referendum provides two choices. You can vote “For the Referred Law” or “Against the Referred Law”.

    A vote “For the Referred Law” is a vote to sustain the marriage equality law that was passed earlier this year and, thus, is a vote in favor of marriage equality.

    A vote “Against the Referred Law” is what the fundies want you to do.

  15. pixiedust says

    Here’s the language that will be on the ballot:

    Civil Marriage Protection Act

    Establishes that Maryland’s civil marriage laws allow gay and lesbian couples to obtain a civil marriage license, provided they are not otherwise prohibited from marrying; protects clergy from having to perform any particular marriage ceremony in violation of their religious beliefs; affirms that each religious faith has exclusive control over its own theological doctrine regarding who may marry within that faith; and provides that religious organizations and certain related entities are not required to provide goods, services, or benefits to an individual related to the celebration or promotion of marriage in violation of their religious beliefs.

    For the Referred Law

    Against the Referred Law

  16. grumpyoldfart says

    I love the background noises.

    Christians have been preaching this message for centuries but this audience has tried to liven it up a bit by pretending that it’s a brand new revelation they’ve never heard before:

    Ooo_wow_yeah_ooo_wow_amen_wow_wow_ooo_wow

    Show ponies.

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