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D’Souza Gets Engaged — While Still Married

Well here’s an amusing turn of events. Dinesh D’Souza, champion of Christian values, is caught up in a sexual scandal that is getting noticed by the Christian media. It seems that he’s been following the example of so many religious right types before him:

vation and a long line at the book-signing table immediately afterward. Although D’Souza has been married for 20 years to his wife, Dixie, in South Carolina he was with a young woman, Denise Odie Joseph II, and introduced her to at least three people as his fiancée…

The next day another conference organizer, Alex McFarland, distressed by D’Souza’s behavior, confronted him in a telephone conversation. D’Souza admitted he shared a room with his fiancée but said “nothing happened.” When I called D’Souza, he confirmed that he was indeed engaged to Joseph, but did not explain how he could be engaged to one woman while still married to another. When asked when he had filed for divorce from his wife, Dixie, D’Souza answered, “Recently.”

According to San Diego County (Calif.) Superior Court records, D’Souza filed for divorce only on Oct. 4, the day I spoke with him. Under California law, that starts the clock on a six-month waiting period for divorce. D’Souza on Oct. 4 told me his marriage was “over,” said he “is sure Denise is the one for me,” and said he had “done nothing wrong.”

Look, the reason for this is obvious. New York, where D’Souza lives, legalized same-sex marriage last year. Obviously, that destroyed the sanctity of his marriage. How many marriages have to be torn asunder before America wakes up? Gay marriage is so powerful that it destroyed the sanctity of all three of Newt Gingrich’s marriages and all four of Rush Limbaugh’s marriages even before it was legal. That’s how serious this is, people.

And apparently the board of King’s College, of which he is president, is going to be discussing the matter at a board meeting this week. Personally, I couldn’t care less who he sleeps with and under what marital circumstances, but the hypocrisy is certainly amusing. Ambrose Bierce defined a Christian as “one who follows the teachings of Christ so long as they are not inconsistent with a life of sin.” Sounds like he nailed D’Souza.

Oh, and here’s a punchline to the whole thing. The fiance has a blog and she posted this headline in January:

Newt You Fox, Are You Trying to Sweep Me Off My Feet? Don’t You know I’m Taken?

Unintentional comedy gold.

Comments

  1. matty1 says

    The blog is call Smart Girl Politics, she does appear to be female and it is about politics but smart?

  2. imrryr says

    Funny how they always pick a new wife who’s younger than the previous one. That’s probably just a coincidence though.

  3. regexp says

    Everything you need to know about this individual can be found on the cached personal website page here and its painful.

  4. says

    D’Souza certainly seems like an old fashioned conservative guy: when was the last time a prominant conservative, family-values Christian was involved in a traditional scandal like this, as opposed to a scandal that involved men, drugs, kinky sex and/or prostitution?

  5. Larry says

    I think its wonderful that D’Souza has the right and opportunity to marry the person of his choice even whilst married to someone else. Nothing demonstrates more the christian concept of the sanctity of marriage.

  6. says

    @Reginald Selkirk #7 – I seem to recall that community property laws in New York are pretty strict and tend to favor the non-working spouse: California’s laws are more equitable. And, I suspect, it is much easier for him to travel, which will give him a decided advantage when it comes to meeting with laywers and judges.

  7. says

    Gee, I’m starting to wonder if these religious wingnut types made up this whole gay agenda destroying marriage thing as an excuse to explain their own infidelity. You know, so that the public wouldn’t pin the blame it on their lack of character.

    Of course, another likely factor is an inability to respect the women they marry as people or live up to the trust inherent in committed relationship, but they pin that on those dang uppity feminists.

  8. Akira MacKenzie says

    rexexp @ 5

    GOTT’S LITTLE FEESH IN TROUSERS!!!

    It’s the perfect storm of stupid: “Chill Girl” SELF-loathing, intellectual vaccency masquerading as intellect, Randite shallowness, and rancid HTML.

  9. raven says

    And apparently the board of King’s College, of which he is president, is going to be discussing the matter at a board meeting this week.

    A witch hunt. They are so cute when they eat their own.

    Probably won’t do anything. Hypocrisy is one of the three fundie sacraments. Although they could. Adultery is a stoning to death offense in the bible.

    If they stoned all their hypocrites to death, the fundie religion would be finished.

  10. Chaos Engineer says

    I love this bit:

    D’Souza admitted he shared a room with his fiancée but said “nothing happened.”

    When was the last time that anyone over the age of 18 felt that they had to say, “Yes, I shared a room with my fiancée, but nothing happened! Honest!” And he’s not even saying this to her parents; he’s saying it to a co-worker! That seems kind of old-fashioned even for the 1950’s. My guess is that this is the first time this has happened since the 1870’s or so.

  11. says

    To tie in with one of Ed’s previous posts….

    The New Testament is very, very clear about divorce and marital infidelity. If the Bible is inerrant (literally or otherwise), then how do Talibangelicals like D’Souza reconcile their marital infidelities with their religious beliefs? Or do they just not bother, chosing instead to fall back on the sheepish grin and “I’ve been forgiven” schtick?

  12. Pierce R. Butler says

    regexp @ # 5 – yep, that’s a brain-cell killer page, fo’ sho!

    I can’t recall ever hearing of another woman who styles herself “Name Name Name II” before – couldn’t D’Souza find an unsuccessful lawyer with a little respect for traditional values?

  13. coragyps says

    “My guess is that this is the first time this has happened since the 1870′s or so.”

    You would guess wrong. It happened to me in 1970. (I was a preacher’s kid.) My fiancee fell asleep while reading in my room, and slept all night, but nothing happened!!
    Nothing happened primarily because 1) I was asleep and 2) I had hepatitis and was running a 103-degree fever, and couldn’t have caused anything to happen even if Viagra had existed back then.

    But I suffered the parental chill for quite a while thereafter.
    And I’m sure that my mother thinks, to this very day, that we did the Big Nasty out of wedlock in her Christian house!

  14. eric says

    Or do they just not bother, chosing instead to fall back on the sheepish grin and “I’ve been forgiven” schtick?

    This. Although the fundie tribe usually spends some time pulling its hair and rending its garments before (inevitably) accepting their own back into the fold. Sins are only unforgivable when perpetrated by people they don’t like.

  15. sailor1031 says

    “in South Carolina he was with a young woman, Denise Odie Joseph II”

    “hiking the appalachian trail”, no doubt!

  16. jasonbowes says

    In Obama’s America, 2016, we’ll all have to stick with our first wives, even if they’re not hot anymore and we’re tired of their nagging bullshit.

  17. says

    @regexp #5 – Ah, it is all clear to me know! D’Souza isn’t dumping his wife for a blonde tart: he is doing God’s Holy Work by saving this much younger woman from a life of terrible, terrible sin!

  18. Michael Heath says

    raven writes:

    Probably won’t do anything. [King's College]

    D’Souza suffers from brown skin, so he’s more vulnerable.

  19. hexidecima says

    well, one would have to despise one’s self to get near D’souza, so Denise seems to fit the bill.

  20. says

    Of course, this is all Barack Obama’s fault. If he wasn’t president, then Dinesh wouldn’t have needed to spend all that time away from his wife to write a book and make a movie about Obama.

  21. twincats says

    I think that’s the first time I’ve seen a woman with roman numerals at the end of her name.

    Me too, although in my neighborhood growing up, a neighbor girl with the same name as her mom was a “jr.”

    And whoo! Was that blog page ever painful! I’m still seeing ghost lines from the white-type-on-black-background.

    Didja notice that her first-listed favorite activity was “The American West”? That’s one busy gal!

  22. =8)-DX says

    As a divorcee, the idea of “fault” divorce gives me the shivers (although I of course aknowledge having many faults myself). I mean I understand how abusive relationships (either way or both) lead to “it’s your fault” pointing in the courtroom, but shouldn’t judges be impartial and aren’t the most common reasons for divorce simply mutual incompatibility of the two spouses? Some couples have it in them to connect and create family for 5 or 10 or twenty years, why should it be anyone’s fault if all sides feel they need to live apart? And if only one side does, how would continuing the relationship for another 20-40 years be anything but abuse towards the unwilling party? Add to that the fact of how easy it is for people to misjudge the length and strength of their commitment or fail to take into consequence the changes in personality or goals they may meet down the road and till death do us part seems like a masochist’s wet dream.

    That being said: Let D’Souza have his divorce and new fiance and call him out on the hypocrisy next time he expresses it. But from my standpoint, marriage is about people finding comfort, love, support and creating families. If it fails in these goals then by all means let people try it again with someone else. Divorce laws should be primarily about protecting children and the abused, not about trying to find a person to judge for things essential to their humanity.

  23. lpetrich says

    Furthermore, DDS is supposed to be a Catholic. This means that he ought to get a Catholic divorce, er, annulment from the Church.

    For getting a divorce, he could have taken his jurisdiction-shopping one step further and gone to Nevada.

  24. yoav says

    He’s just going for a traditional biblical marriage, Solomon style. The other possibility is that the mormons had a record glitch and got him prematurely posthumously baptized.

  25. dingojack says

    =8)-DX – the way it used to work was something like this:
    A) Shouting, door-slamming, cold stares & etc.
    B) weary resignation.
    C) The man would go to some hotel his girlfriend, ‘fianceé’ or some other woman.
    D) They would be busted by the hotal clerk, hotel dective, the wife or be seen by a whole bunch of unimpeachable witnesses.
    E) She would claim ‘adultery’ as the reason for the divorce.
    F) Done and dusted.

    Worked for Wallis and Ernest Simpson.

    Dingo

  26. tbp1 says

    Wow, a religious conservative who has made a substantial part of his career out of condemning the moral failures of others can’t manage to live by the rules he wants to impose on everyone else.

    Who coulda seen that coming?

  27. says

    Wow, a religious conservative who has made a substantial part of his career out of condemning the moral failures of others can’t manage to live by the rules he wants to impose on everyone else.

    Who coulda seen that coming?

    I think it’s connected. Someone who believes they need a Leviathan government controlling all aspects of life is perfectly inline with someone who fails to live up to their own standards

  28. martinc says

    Chaos Engineer/coragyps:

    Actually I’m on the list of ‘nothing happened’ too. I was in the USA with my new American girlfriend meeting her parents for the first time, and they put us up in their spare room, which rather pointedly had two single beds. After lights out (about 10pm I think) my girlfriend carefully snuck over from her bed and joined me in mine. In the dark, and with her whispered admonitions to absolute silence in my ears, and in a bed far too small for two people, I attempted the difficult task of divesting my willing partner of her clothing. I finally got her bra off, and with insouciant manly aplomb, I whirled it toward the empty other bed … where it overshot, hit the wall separating our bedroom from her parents’ bedroom, and slid down between the bed and the wall, making a noise exactly like a daughter’s discarded bra sliding down between a bed and a wall.

    So that’s how nothing happened. We were both too stricken with paroxysms of silent tear-inducing laughter to do anything nasty at all.

  29. DaveL says

    Who in hell names their daughter “Odie”? Ask anyone of her parents’ generation who “Odie” is, and they’ll tell you it’s the dumber-than-rocks dog from the “Garfield” comics.

  30. ewanmacdonald says

    Dinesh replies via his pulpit on FoxNews.com. Here’s an excerpt:

    3.I sought out advice about whether it is legal to be engaged prior to being divorced and I was informed that it is. Denise and I were trying to do the right thing. I had no idea that it is considered wrong in Christian circles to be engaged prior to being divorced, even though in a state of separation and in divorce proceedings. Obviously I would not have introduced Denise as my fiancé at a Christian apologetics conference if I had thought or known I was doing something wrong. But as a result of all this, and to avoid even the appearance of impropriety, Denise and I have decided to suspend our engagement.

    This is massively implausible. He has been an evangelical Christian for years, a Roman Catholic before that, and is a staunch defender of traditional Christian values. I simply don’t believe what he’s saying here.

    6. Ultimately this is not just about Olasky or even World magazine. It is also about how we Christians are supposed to behave with one another. And the secular world is watching. Is this how we love and treat fellow believers? If my conduct was improper, wouldn’t it be the decent and charitable thing to approach me about it? Instead, here is a clear attempt to destroy my career and my ministry. This is viciousness masquerading as righteousness. And this is the behavior that is truly worthy of Christian condemnation.

    And this is cute. It’s been a while since I studied the New Testament but I don’t think love, decency and charity are only to be extended towards believers. This just looks like a convenient “hey, knock it off, guys” plea.

  31. DaveL says

    I had no idea that it is considered wrong in Christian circles to be engaged prior to being divorced, even though in a state of separation and in divorce proceedings.

    I don’t know about the separation, but he wasn’t in divorce proceedings at the time. He filed a few days after the conference.

    Obviously I would not have introduced Denise as my fiancé at a Christian apologetics conference if I had thought or known I was doing something wrong.

    On this score, at least, I believe him. Not because I believe he thought it was okay for people to have a fiancee while still married, but because I believe he thought it was okay for him.

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