Arkansas GOP Candidate Endorses Child Killing


A candidate for the state legislature in Arkansas who has received much financial support from the leaders of the Republican party in that state has written a book that not only advocates theocracy but says that unruly children should be put to death like it says in the Bible.

The maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellioius children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in Deut 21:18-21:

This passage does not give parents blanket authority to kill their children. They must follow the proper procedure in order to have the death penalty executed against their children. I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death. Why is this so? Other than the love Christ has for us, there is no greater love then [sic] that of a parent for their child. The last people who would want to see a child put to death would be the parents of the child. Even so, the Scrpture provides a safe guard to protect children from parents who would wrongly exercise the death penalty against them. Parents are required to bring their children to the gate of the city. The gate of the city was the place where the elders of the city met and made judicial pronouncements. In other words, the parents were required to take their children to a court of law and lay out their case before the proper judicial authority, and let the judicial authority determine if the child should be put to death. I know of many cases of rebellious children, however, I cannot think of one case where I believe that a parent had given up on their child to the point that they would have taken their child to a court of law and asked the court to rule that the child be put to death. Even though this procedure would rarely be used, if it were the law of land, it would give parents authority. Children would know that their parents had authority and it would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents.

Well I’m so glad they have to follow “proper procedure.” That makes it all okay, amirite? So I think I have this straight. If you think that women should be denied the right to have an abortion but given the authority to have the child stoned to death if they get out of hand, you’re “pro-life.” All cleared up now.

Comments

  1. Stevarious, Public Health Problem says

    I actually threw up in my mouth a little bit.

    But of course, this is what the bible teaches.

  2. Abby Normal says

    Thank goodness we have righteous Christians like Charlie Fuqua around to defend us from the Taliban’s religious zealotry.

  3. thalwen says

    He also supports the death penalty for adults convicted of crimes that have more than a two year sentence. And he says that prisons must be “unpleasant,” and as pleasant as current prisons are, I’m sure he means Spanish Inquisition unpleasant.
    http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2012/10/05/god-according-to-charlie-fuqua
    Though children being children, if he got his way, would all be executed before they become toddlers.

    Unsurprisingly, the guy labels himself as “pro-life.”

  4. says

    Not to worry: he will “walk it back”, it will be forgotten, he’ll get elected… and then appointed to whatever government committee oversees science.

    And by the way, he worked for Monsanto.

  5. dingojack says

    And what does Deut. 21:18-21 actually say?

    18 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, 19 then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear”.

    So it only applies to male children, the parents are allowed to present lies about the defendant, then the defendant is stoned to death (a particularly nasty way to die) – all without any kind of defence being presented and totally without the justices hearing any kind of case.

    Yep, both fair and balanced, and what else would one expect from these FOX-sucking nutjobs?

    Dingo

  6. Abby Normal says

    I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death.

    You can’t think of a single example of a Father serving up his only Son for execution? …in the Bible? Really?

  7. chisaihana5219 says

    Is this the same guy running for Arkansas legistlature whose book says that slavery was a blessing in disguise for African-Americans? Or is this a guy running against him? It makes me feel a bit better that all we have in MN is The Bachmann.

  8. Michael Heath says

    Charlie Fuqua writes:

    The death penalty for rebellioius [sic] children is not something to be taken lightly.

    An abuse that won’t happen here in the foreseeable future. So as bad as this is, I argue we shouldn’t forget the very real abuse children suffer now because of both political and theological conservative Christianity.

    What we encounter in the here and now which harms children is:

    1) The general attribute of theologically conservative Christianity indoctrinating their children to believe falsehoods. This is partly accomplished by avoiding serious inquiries into objective truth by instead spending an incredible amount of time and energy on redundantly exercised rituals and talking points defending preconceived falsified beliefs.

    Consider the incredible number of hours spent in church pounding home the TRUTH, time which could have been spent actually and legitimately seeking objective truth. I think many of these Christians also promote children attend anti-science “universities” while successfully successfully stymying their kids and public school students in large swaths of the country from getting a proper K-12 education when it comes to critical thinking, science, and social science. Now some are going after history as well. This began in the 1970s when the misnamed Moral Majority began to pursue school board positions in order to deny children an optimal education since doing so revealed the falsehood of their beliefs which led to more children abandoning faith as the juvenile character defect it is.

    2) The result of such child abuse is children not developing into adults enjoying the same opportunities for a given level of aptitude to pursue happiness which children from secular higher socio-economic classes enjoy. Not necessarily due to the lack of money but instead because of how their parents, theologically conservative churches, and even in red-state areas – public school officials, mistreat these children. And that’s just on the career end, they also abuse these kids mentally when it comes to their indoctrinal efforts to get these children to hate, fear, and remain determinedly ignorant; overt sometimes though more often insinuated such as the threat of being a familial and societal outcast. For example, the fear a gay kid growing up fundie has to weigh when it comes to coming out of the closet. Another example is the kid with an aptitude for science whose told that Darwinists are of the devil and pursuing scientific knowledge makes one ‘spiritually blind’ and a sure path to Hell. Better to go to Patrick Henry College, Bob Jones University, Oral Roberts University, the misnamed Liberty University, etc. ,etc. etc. then Princeton, MIT, or one’s state universities. If conservative parents didn’t abuse their kids, those religious colleges mentioned above, along with dozens if not hundreds or thousands more, would not exist. At least as they operate now.

  9. says

    2) The result of such child abuse is children not developing into adults enjoying the same opportunities for a given level of aptitude to pursue happiness which children from secular higher socio-economic classes enjoy.

    Very yes. And to add on to your mention of mental abuse, I’d like to add that from what I’ve seen, fundamentalist indoctrination also stunts emotional development. If you teach a child blind obedience instead of real morality, critical thought, and to stand up against authorities when they abuse their power, they won’t be emotionally equipped to handle the responsibilities of adulthood. Maturity doesn’t automatically happen at age 18.

  10. Pierce R. Butler says

    I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death.

    He hasn’t read Judges 11:31-39 lately, I s’poze.

    Or the stories about this, um, erratic David character.

    And later on, there was a tale (references too numerous to cite) about a certain Father who required the death of the only Son he had begotten (albeit via a 3rd party).

  11. Abby Normal says

    @Chisaihana5219

    I belive you’re thinkging of Reps. Jon Hubbard or Loy Mauch. They’re running in different districts than Charlie Fuqua. Both have been in the news lately for their pro-slavery writtings. In Hubbard’s book, Letters to the Editor: Confessions of a Frustrated Conservative he writes:

    the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise.

    Mauch wrote a series of pro-slavery letters to the editor of the Arkansas Democrat Gazette. For example:

    If slavery were so God-awful, why didn’t Jesus or Paul condemn it, why was it in the Constitution and why wasn’t there a war before 1861?

    If you’re familiar with Charlie Fuqua before now it’s probably for his earlier proposed legislation to deport Muslims.

  12. emc2 says

    It would be even worse if it made any sense.

    Parents should be allowed to have their rebellious children put to death, but since parents love their children almost as much as Jesus loves them, they would never give up their children to be executed.

    Add to the irony that fact he is actually calling for Government ‘Death Panels.’

    “Truly you have a dizzying intellect.”

    “Wait ‘till I get going!”

  13. StevoR says

    Unruly kids should be put to death eh?

    Well that’d sure teach ‘em! /sarc

    Also gives whole new meaning to Dad/Moms gunna kill me when they find out X, doesn’t it?

    Really Mr Republican loon? Seriously? Not a doing Poe?

    On the bright side surly we can safely say they’ve just lost the youth vote!

  14. Ben P says

    Is this the same guy running for Arkansas legistlature whose book says that slavery was a blessing in disguise for African-Americans? Or is this a guy running against him? It makes me feel a bit better that all we have in MN is The Bachmann.

    Unfortunately, no, this is a different guy. Arkansas has multiple varieties of nuts.

    The person in this story is Charlie Fuqua. He’s a former house member who’s currently running for the state representative in district 63, the district that includes Fort Smith, Arkansas. After this blowup, several house republicans actually went so far as to endorse his democratic challenger.

    The person who said “slavery was a blessing in disguise” because the slaves would eventually get to become American Citizens was John Hubbard of Jonesboro, Arkansas who is also a Republican.

    Finally, there’s a third person, Loy Mauch, who is an incumbent republican from Bismarck, Arkansas, who is to put it gently, a neo-confederate. His antics have been known for a long time but don’t keep him from getting re-elected. He’s getting money this time around because Republicans in the state think they have a real chance at taking the state legislature which has been democratic since reconstruction, so they’re launching a full court press with everyone they can find.

    In 2005 Mauch offered this little gem

    To those of us who actually know our history, Lee will be mentioned in the same breath as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, while Goering will be equated with Lincoln, Josef Stalin and Karl Marx.

  15. Sastra says

    I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death.

    Can this candidate think of one instance in the Scripture where homosexuals were put to death or imprisoned or even punished? Sure, the law mentions this penalty — but is there one example in Scripture of the penalty actually being enforced? Sauce for the goose …

    Of course this guy is “pro-life.” There is no life except in Christ. All else follows.

  16. Childermass says

    If only we could get this guy’s father to tell him that they need to go visit the local district judge…

    /Of course I am sure God will have a bit of an Isaac moment and change his mind. After all he is a guy unlike Jephthah’s daughter.

    (Disclaimer: I don’t know if his father is still alive or what his views are/were.)

  17. raven says

    I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death.

    Well Abraham and Isaac. Although that was just god fooling Abraham and scaring Isaac almost to death. That god has a wacky sense of humor sometimes.

    The story where a father (Japheth?) returning from battle kills the first person he meets as a promise. It ends up being his daughter.

    There are quite a few where someone had other parent’s kids put to death. The Canaanite genocide, god killing everyone but 8 people, Sodom and Gomorrah, god himself being killed as jesus, Job, the Philistines, Elija and the bears, and on and on. The bible is rather thoroughly soaked in blood and someone is always getting killed somewhere.

  18. busterggi says

    So if a pregnant women induces an abortion by having a large stone dropped on her abdomen it will be okay as its biblicly correct.

    Well I’m glad i cleared that up.

    also

    “I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death.”

    Do the name Jesus ring a familar bell?

  19. magistramarla says

    This is the xtian patriarchy rearing it’s ugly head.
    They want to justify getting rid of kids who “rebel” by coming out as gay or leaving their church.
    It is quite scary that so many of them have managed to reach high offices in government.

  20. Michael Heath says

    Bronze Dog writes:

    And to add on to your mention of mental abuse, I’d like to add that from what I’ve seen, fundamentalist indoctrination also stunts emotional development. If you teach a child blind obedience instead of real morality, critical thought, and to stand up against authorities when they abuse their power, they won’t be emotionally equipped to handle the responsibilities of adulthood. Maturity doesn’t automatically happen at age 18.

    Not just what you observe, but what science also finds. Right wing authoritarianism, which now dominates conservative Christianity, is learned.

    One of the costs of the enlightenment is the breadth of opportunities for those with the aptitude to be intellectuals, opening the door to more mediocrity within religious organizations. One of the things that strikes me about many of the religious leaders who developed the founding fathers, and earlier generations as well, was how much smarter and more open-minded they were than today’s religious leaders. Those type of men are now historians, scientists, and such, we get David Barton, John Hagee, Ray Comfort, and Rick Warren.

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