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Sep 26 2012

Wingnut: Obama Wants to Eliminate Non-Poor

Joel Gilbert, the guy behind the absurd documentary Dreams of My Real Father, which claims that Obama’s real father is not Barack Obama Sr. but Frank Marshall Davis, who apparently passed communism to his progeny through his genes, says that health care reform is a plot to kill everyone other than the poor.

Gilbert: National healthcare is simply a socialist tool to eliminate the middle and upper classes. So for Obama, poor quality, long waits and high taxes in this national health care doesn’t matter. It’s just a socialist tool. For Obama in the next term, the middle class’ health care is going to be given away to poor and illegals. Middle class’ employers are going to be taxed and regulated out of business. And the middle class’ retirement will evaporate into a bankrupt, socialist state, and Obama will achieve what he wants, which is to make America irreversibly socialist without anyone ever realizing how it happened.

This ranks up there with the crazy conspiracy theory about Obama importing 50-100 million Muslims into the country. Funny stuff.

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  1. 1
    keithb

    He might be a little closer to a point, if the ACA was *actually national Healthcare*!

  2. 2
    lofgren

    And the meek shall inherit the earth.

  3. 3
    jjgdenisrobert

    It would seem that Communism is a disease passed to offspring only when the father is black. When the father is white, Communism is not hereditary, as can be clearly seen with the case of Bill Kristol, son of once rabid Trotskyist Irving Kristol. It’s also incurable in Blacks, but completely curable in Whites (see: Irving Kristol, and most of the original Neo-cons).

    Now: tell me this is not racism???

  4. 4
    Area Man

    Only 4 uses of the word “socialist” in that one paragraph? Meh, I give it a C-.

  5. 5
    Aliasalpha

    Don’t the republicans have a similar goal? Eliminate the middle class & those people who are merely rich rather than ridiculously rich by stealing all their money & turning them into the poor?

  6. 6
    dysomniak "They are unanimous in their hate for me, and I welcome their hatred!"

    Obama will achieve what he wants, which is to make America irreversibly socialist without anyone ever realizing how it happened.

    I wish I could be so optimistic.

  7. 7
    Dunc

    It’s certainly worked here in the UK, where we’ve completely eliminated the upper class. Oh, wait…

  8. 8
    dysomniak "They are unanimous in their hate for me, and I welcome their hatred!"

    I also wish I could do blockquotes properly.

  9. 9
    Gregory in Seattle

    National healthcare — as distinct from the almost useless Affordable Care Act — has indeed eliminated the wealthy and priviledged classes from the UK and most other western democracies.

    Oh, wait….

  10. 10
    Michael Heath

    The quote Ed posts here is very similar, no hyperbole – I’m asserting it is, to Mitt Romney’s continued ads and now verbal claim that President Obama seeks to increase people’s dependency on government, including increasing the rate of the unemployed and wanting food stamps. So it’s not just wingnuts taking flights of fancy, but even the supposedly sane people left in the GOP.

    CNN interviewed Mr. Romney recently and broadcast his response last evening. The reporter noted the fact-checking sites finding his ads about the president’s executive order on welfare and work requirements to be an outright lie. The reporter who got this on the record however was awful, he meekly referred Mr. Romney to the fact-checker sites rather than pointing out explicitly what Mr. Romney claimed which was not true. The reporter also failed to point out that successful Republican obstruction to jobs bills offered by the president to the Congress. Therefore it wasn’t the president advocating less jobs, but his own party – apparently in order to defeat this president. Even at the expense of the under- or unemployed and this country’s interests.

    Anderson Cooper cleaned up the mess afterwards but reporters need to better confront interview subjects of their lies in person, after the fact is far less effective.

  11. 11
    dingojack

    Wingnut: Obama Wants to Eliminate Non-Poor“.

    And you make that sound like a bad thing.

    :) Dingo

  12. 12
    Randomfactor

    We won’t get rid of ALL the rich. We’ll save a few of them for the Hunger Games.

  13. 13
    YankeeCynic

    President Obama, who is himself a millionaire, want’s to get rid of millionaires. That makes perfect sense.

  14. 14
    theguy

    There’s so much ridiculousness in the quoted passage, but I wanted to focus on the part about waiting times.

    Here’s some data:

    http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Charts/Report/Why-Not-the-Best–Results-from-a-National-Scorecard-on-U-S–Health-System-Performance/W/Waiting-Time-to-See-Doctor-When-Sick-or-Need-Medical-Attention–Sicker-Adults-in-Six-Countries–2005.aspx

    According to this graph, the United States actually has worse waiting times than the other listed nations (with the exception of Canada).

    I’ve seen another graph elsewhere showing Norway and Sweden to have longer waiting times, but longer waiting times seems to be the exception, not the rule, with universal healthcare.

    And, to my knowledge, Canadians are on average healthier than Americans.

  15. 15
    John Hinkle

    Middle class’ employers are going to be taxed and regulated out of business.

    Wouldn’t that, you know, destroy the economy? And Obama wants to create a socialist state from the wreckage? Jeezus Aiche Christ-on-a-cracker that’s stoopid.

  16. 16
    laurentweppe

    But but but….
    If the poor can access the same heathcare, the same education, are granted the same voting rights and sexual freedom, then being rich becomes pointless.
    So by trying to make being rich pointless, Obama is trying to exterminate the no-poor, QED

  17. 17
    grumpyoldfart

    Funny stuff.

    As long as you clowns have got nuclear weapons, you’ll never be funny. Here’s a reminder of how dangerous you people can be:

    Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: “President Bush said to all of us: ‘I am driven with a mission from God’. God would tell me, ‘George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan’. And I did. And then God would tell me ‘George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq’. And I did.”
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

  18. 18
    Michael Heath

    YankeeCynic writes:

    President Obama, who is himself a millionaire, want’s to get rid of millionaires. That makes perfect sense.

    Well it does to those in the same tribe as Clarence Thomas and Ken Mehlman.

  19. 19
    typecaster

    Wouldn’t that, you know, destroy the economy? And Obama wants to create a socialist state from the wreckage? Jeezus Aiche Christ-on-a-cracker that’s stoopid.

    Yes, it is, but we should note that it has happened. Russia under Stalin eliminated the kulaks (that is, the people who knew how to run farms) when they resisted collectivization. This was one of the self-inflicted wounds that crippled the Soviet economy for as long as there was a Soviet economy. Of course, I’m just pointing out that states have destroyed their own economies for ideological reasons, not saying that Obama would do that.

    But we do have one party with ideological reasons to limit science and its technological outcomes, which is what drives our economy. It ain’t the Democrats.

    (P.S. I used Stalin as an example rather than Hitler, so it’s not technically a Godwin, right?)

  20. 20
    Olav

    Ed:

    Funny stuff.

    No, it’s not. It’s depressing.

  21. 21
    mikeymeitbual

    I love how these changes are always “irreversible”, as though it’s a sex change operation or DoD-level hard drive wipe.

    … once you go pinko you never blinko? For some reason that reminds me of Pac Man.

  22. 22
    Modusoperandi

    Aliasalpha “Don’t the republicans have a similar goal? Eliminate the middle class & those people who are merely rich rather than ridiculously rich by stealing all their money & turning them into the poor?”
    No. They want to help make everyone rich. They’re just starting from the top down, that’s all.

    theguy “According to this graph, the United States actually has worse waiting times than the other listed nations (with the exception of Canada).”
    To be fair, most of the Canadian wait time is due to all the hibernation.

    “And, to my knowledge, Canadians are on average healthier than Americans.”
    That’s because of all the shivering. It’s Canadian cardio (or “CanCar”, according to the Department of Exercise. “Thirty minutes of CanCar everyday keeps the cold embrace of death away, eh.”).

  23. 23
    DuWayne

    I for one, would love to know where they get this idea about long waits. My boys and I are on medicaid and go to a sliding scale fee/medicaid accepting clinic. The longest wait I had was 28 minutes and that was because they were “squeezing us in.” Our normal wait is under five minutes. And while I have been to some sliding scale clinics that had long waiting times, I have also been to private practices that had exceptionally long waits. The clinic we went to when I was a small child had notoriously long waiting times.

  24. 24
    kermit.

    Olav: Ed:
    Funny stuff.
    No, it’s not. It’s depressing.

    Imagine three men kicking in the door of your house in the middle of the night, armed with guns. Now imagine them dressed as clowns. Funnier, right?

    No?

    sigh.

  25. 25
    kermit.

    For 27 of the last 28 years I’ve worked at two tech jobs here in the US. When I moved 16 years ago, I was out of work while looking for a job, where I’ve been since. I dislocated a finger in those eight months, and couldn’t get treatment – no insurance. Does that count as a wait? Still haven’t seen a doctor for it (it doesn’t straighten all the way), although I get medical for other things. Preexisting condition, you know. How long would I have waited in Canada?

    Glad it was my pinky and not my knee or neck.

  26. 26
    davem

    I think he knows as much about health care as he knows about apostrophes.

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