Russian Christians Attack Art Museum

Interfax reports that a group of Russian Orthodox Christians attacked an erotic art museum in Moscow, apparently because the museum has supported the punk band Pussy Riot in their fight to avoid prison at the hands of the Russian government.

Orthodox Christian activists have attacked the erotic art museum in central Moscow, museum director Alexander Donskoy wrote on his Facebook page.

“Orthodox Christians have just attacked the Erotic Art Museum on the Arbat. They had bricks in their hands. The museum administrator fled her workplace, fearing for her life,” Donskoy said in a post he made on Tuesday night…

“No one has the right to impose their will and threaten other people. Today the Orthodox militants punish us for our support for Pussy Riot, send us death threats and rip clothes off ordinary passers-by, and tomorrow they will start destroying churches of other religious denominations and slay atheists,” the statement said.

But remember, Christians never act like those evil Muslims do. Never.

22 comments on this post.
  1. dingojack:

    Just to counter balance that story there’s this one.
    The former Orthodox Deacon Sergey Baranov has a Facebook page apparently (if it hasn’t been take down, of course) so you can send him a message, if you wish.
    Dingo

  2. raven:

    Xians, making atheists since 33 CE.

    If the government would arrest the xian terrorists for violating the laws, that would stop quickly.

    Although, IIRC, the current Russian government panders to the Russian Orthodoz church for support which means that will happen about never.

    How soon until they outlaw birth control, the teaching of evolutionary biology and cosmology, and start requiring prayer in school and ten commandment monuments everywhere. And issuing Fatwas of course, can’t forget those.

    Religions copy each other a lot, but mostly they copy the worst aspects of each.

  3. Michael Heath:

    Ed writes:

    But remember, Christians never act like those evil Muslims do. Never.

    That’s because Christianity has discovered the Truth while all other religion and scientific findings which claim to falsify the Bible are obviously not true. In fact Muslims worship an imaginary monkey-god and not the god of Abraham, where Islam isn’t even really a religion but instead a political ideology.

  4. frankboyd:

    But remember, Christians never act like those evil Muslims do. Never.

    Ah, so this is what it takes to get you lot to notice the less-than-savoury bits of Islam. Good to know.

    Incidentally, I do wonder what the reaction would be from people like Myers if they had to face the Russian Orthodox Church rather than the american windbags. Actually, no, I don’t. I know exactly what they’d be like.

  5. stoferb:

    Ofcourse christians don’t act like those evil muslims…. except when they do. Russia, on it’s way to become the new christian Iran.

  6. Chiroptera:

    Boy, this is going to be quite the quandry for our own Christofascists here in the US.

    Russian Orthodox Church: militant heretical theocrats who want to oppress good people and subjugate us all under the rule of the Slavic hordes?

    Or good Christian decent folk who are being terribly oppressed by the awful punk band thugs?

  7. left0ver1under:

    It’s not the hypocrisy of the christians that’s troubling, we’ve come to expect that. It’s the hypocrisy of the Russian police and courts that’s worrisome.

    Pussy Riot simply danced (or whatever) inside the cult’s cathedral, they didn’t vandalize any property. But the christian terrorists vandalized and destroyed property in an art gallery, and the “authorities” are going to do nothing to prosecute them.

  8. John Hinkle:

    Orthodox Christian activists have attacked the erotic art museum…

    What is it with wingnuts and their obsession with naughty bits? If I didn’t know any better – and I don’t – I’d almost say they were using the Pussy Riot as a pretense to have a gander at all the fun sex toys and images.

  9. imrryr:

    Ah, so this is what it takes to get you lot to notice the less-than-savoury bits of Islam. Good to know.

    Ah, so you are a complete buffoon. Good to know. Where were you when Ed posted this just last week:

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/08/28/the-barbarism-continues-in-pakistan/

  10. raven:

    Ah, so you are a complete buffoon. Good to know. Where were you when Ed posted this just last week:

    Practicing the sacred fundie xian rituals of hate, hypocrisy, and lies of course.

    Boy, this is going to be quite the quandry for our own Christofascists here in the US.

    Probably not.

    I’m sure they are drooling and wondering if they can get away with the same things here. Arson, vandalism, and bombing attacks on Mosques, family planning clinics and atheist billboards are common and they frequently picket “adult shops”.

    Without the police, courts, DA’s, and prisons, backed up by the US armed forces, the level of violence by fundies in the USA would probably be orders of magnitude higher. “Who would jesus torture, rape, mutilate, and kill.”

  11. Michael Heath:

    frankboyd writes:

    Incidentally, I do wonder what the reaction would be from people like [PZ?] Myers if they had to face the Russian Orthodox Church rather than the american windbags. Actually, no, I don’t. I know exactly what they’d be like.

    I don’t recall your handle around here before so I’ll try and be nice, which is not easy for me when faced with self-evident idiocy so I expect to somewhat fail. Exactly how do you, with complete certainty, ‘know exactly’ a certain result would occur based on conditions which don’t exist except in your imagination? How exactly does your imagination for an alternate reality allow you predict the behavior of real people in your alternative reality? Especially given we can’t have complete certainty how some people will act in the future here in the real world. Does this power you imply possessing come from some magical incantation you possess? How is it validated given your deploying this supposed power in your imagined reality?

  12. frankboyd:

    Except I’m not a Christian raven. While you’ve been spluttering away, Ed Brayton goes on to endorse the bogus term “Islamophobia”. I do hope that none of you lot are “Christophobic” or anything like that. I mean, it’d be just terrible wouldn’t it? Or “anti-Catholic bigots”?

    Ah, but that’s different. Sure. If you lot think you’re fooling anyone but yourselves…

  13. frankboyd:

    Michael Heath,

    Exactly how do you, with complete certainty, ‘know exactly’ a certain result

    Oh, quite simply. Myers reprints scurrilous cartoons about Christ by the gross. When, however, people were being murdered, and arrested, and intimidated for cartoons of Muhammad, Mr Big Bad Brave Atheist scurried to safety as quick as his chubby little flanks could carry him.

    Of course, he had an excuse. The cartoon were racist, dont’chaknow. Weirdly enough, two years later on, after the risk had gone away, and plenty of others had taken the risk, he suddenly reprinted them. They’d magically become not-racist, at the same time as the risk went away! Isn’t that funny?

    I repeat, if you think you’re fooling anyone…

  14. dingojack:

    Myers reprints scurrilous cartoons about Christ by the gross“.

    Citation required of all 144+.

    The cartoon were racist, dont’chaknow“.

    And cartoons about christ (all 144+ of them) were racist too were they? I’m guessing that they (assuming they exist) had nothing to with race at all, did they Cranky?

    Dingo

  15. raven:

    frankie the incoherent troll:

    Incidentally, I do wonder what the reaction would be from people like [PZ?] Myers if they had to face the Russian Orthodox Church rather than the american windbags.

    It would be exactly like he and we are right now.

    PZ Myers has gotten up to one hundred death threats in one day from fundies.

    One of them was scary enough that the police picked him up and had him committed.

    The fundie xian dealth cultists in the USA can be just as violent and murderous as the Russian Orthodox are. Xian terrorism has been a problem in the USA for decades and they occasionally kill people.

  16. feralboy12:

    I don’t recall your handle around here before

    You never heard of Frank Boyd Wrong? He designs card houses, some of which have stood for minutes.

  17. MikeMa:

    @raven,
    To be accurate, it was the Canadian police that finally acted against the threats by Mabus, not the Americans but the point stands.

    @frankboyd,
    Lets assume for a short minute that you have a valid point about Dr Myers fear of Islamic retribution. How does that justify Christian attacks at an art museum? Does it justify any christian acts of violence or cowardice? Would such an action be acceptable to you if it occurred in the US?

  18. Chiroptera:

    MikeMa, #17: How does that justify Christian attacks at an art museum?

    Not so much justifies it as much as this is a waste of resources. We must all focus exclusively on the narrow set of issues that I personally find important!

  19. frankboyd:

    How does that justify Christian attacks at an art museum?

    Whoever said it did? Who was defending the orthodox thugs? Not I. But something that anyone with any sense has been pointing out for some time is that, if this relentless, abject caving before Islamic thuggery continues, it will not just be Islamic goons who get themselves a piece of the action.

    Yes, I’m sure that Myers has gotten the occasional death threat from some bozo in the hinterlands of America; even he admitted they weren’t worth taking seriously. The threats you get from the Orthodox or from the votaries of Islam are another matter entirely. If you think he’ll stand up to that – you’ve already seen he won’t.

    Anyway, tata for now. Play nicely. :)

  20. Ed Brayton:

    Well I do recognize frankboyd so I see no need to keep my response friendly. Fuck you. I write about the barbarism of many Islamic practices all the time on this blog. If you haven’t noticed, you’re a fucking moron or a liar — I don’t much care which. At the same time, I also write about the blatant Islamophobia among the paranoid and loony right wing, which is equally real and equally absurd. I’ve spelled out both of those criticisms in great detail in hundreds of posts over the years. So save your sarcastic “oh, so you finally noticed this” bullshit for someone who doesn’t know you’re a fucking idiot.

  21. valhar2000:

    So save your sarcastic “oh, so you finally noticed this” bullshit for someone who doesn’t know you’re a fucking idiot.

    Telling it like it is.

  22. frankboyd:

    . At the same time, I also write about the blatant Islamophobia among the paranoid and loony right wing

    As opposed to the blantant Christophobia among the paranoid and loony – whatever you can call what you belong to. Let’s be real, it’s really about a hatred of the American working class, isn’t it? Hmmmm?

    See how easy it is to substitute a suggestion of bigotry for actual argument?

    Oh, I know that you do occasionally like to dip your toe into the water of Islamic criticism. About one part for every twenty, forty of American machine party politics, but you do do it, which is more than most of your confreres do. I know you did actually bother reprinting the cartoons at the time of the pogroms, which is why I specified Myers antics.

    I know I have a bias as I don’t give a damn about the political pissing contests you lot have in the States, nor have I accepted the dogma that says it’s only the party that you dinnae like that goes in for vulgar clerical bigmouths. I’m only interested in matters of substance. So, interest declared.

    So save your sarcastic “oh, so you finally noticed this” bullshit for someone who doesn’t know you’re a fucking idiot.

    Language, language. And someone who is a part of the desert of American talk radio really should not be casting aspersion about intelligence…

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